Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: patch utility under Fedora 13

2011-04-17 Thread Jake Vickers

On 04/15/2011 07:33 PM, David Bray wrote:

Hi Martin

It does help to understand how this work, but I'm still left puzzled.

I can compile it manually, but work with a life of 6 month on the
servers and update and move the data, so it important to me that I get
the install process right to make the migration quick ... hence the time
spent on this.




You can send me a list of packages that fail. I have already re-diff'ed 
some packages to bring the patch files current.

I will test this under F14, but I will not test under F13.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: [Solution] malformed simscan header

2011-04-17 Thread Jake Vickers

On 04/14/2011 03:05 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I've come up with a fix:

1) rebuild/reinstall simscan (using qtp-newmodel)
2) service qmail cdb

Both steps appear to be needed to fix the problem.

So it appears that 2 things should be done to keep this from happening 
in the future:


1) simscanmk (or qmailctl cdb) should be run as part of the %post 
process in the simscan spec file.


What do you think, Jake?

2) whenever clamav is updated (and probably spamassassin too), simscan 
should be rebuilt and reinstalled as well. I can take care of updating 
qtp-newmodel to do this.




Does simscan require a recompile, or just simscanmk (-g)? I believe this 
is on the wiki somewhere.



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[qmailtoaster] Re: [Solution] malformed simscan header

2011-04-17 Thread Eric Shubert

On 04/17/2011 07:08 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/14/2011 03:05 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I've come up with a fix:

1) rebuild/reinstall simscan (using qtp-newmodel)
2) service qmail cdb

Both steps appear to be needed to fix the problem.

So it appears that 2 things should be done to keep this from happening
in the future:

1) simscanmk (or qmailctl cdb) should be run as part of the %post
process in the simscan spec file.

What do you think, Jake?

2) whenever clamav is updated (and probably spamassassin too), simscan
should be rebuilt and reinstalled as well. I can take care of updating
qtp-newmodel to do this.



Does simscan require a recompile, or just simscanmk (-g)? I believe this
is on the wiki somewhere.


-


Simply doing a service qmail cdb (which invokes simscanmk [-g]) didn't 
fix the problem. I had to rebuild and reinstall the binary rpm, then do 
simscanmk (cdb).


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[qmailtoaster] Re: qmt wiki

2011-04-17 Thread Jake Vickers

On 04/16/2011 03:56 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
Is that something someone else can do, or would you rather keep doing 
it yourself? I expect someone would be willing to do this on an 
ongoing basis. Sort of a wiki custodian. If you'd like to delgate 
this, why not solicit some help on the list?


This was a conversation regarding the spam on the wiki.
I currently ban 10-20 accounts a week for posting spam.
I am going to take the wiki down one evening this week after work (after 
1am EDT) and do some maintenance. One change will be a change from the 
math captcha to a graphical captcha.  If anyone has visual disabilities 
that this hinders, send me a message off-list.


Once the maintenance is done, I will be looking for volunteers to help 
keep the wiki clean. I'm adding in some measures to make it more 
difficult for spammers to spam up the wiki, but as we all know nothing 
is foolproof.


If you are interested, reply off-thread.
Thanks.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmt wiki

2011-04-17 Thread Scott Hughes

On 4/17/11 9:18 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/16/2011 03:56 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
Is that something someone else can do, or would you rather keep doing 
it yourself? I expect someone would be willing to do this on an 
ongoing basis. Sort of a wiki custodian. If you'd like to delgate 
this, why not solicit some help on the list?


This was a conversation regarding the spam on the wiki.
I currently ban 10-20 accounts a week for posting spam.
I am going to take the wiki down one evening this week after work 
(after 1am EDT) and do some maintenance. One change will be a change 
from the math captcha to a graphical captcha.  If anyone has visual 
disabilities that this hinders, send me a message off-list.


Once the maintenance is done, I will be looking for volunteers to help 
keep the wiki clean. I'm adding in some measures to make it more 
difficult for spammers to spam up the wiki, but as we all know nothing 
is foolproof.


If you are interested, reply off-thread.
Thanks.


I have a general question about the wiki.  Is there a way to stop people 
from having to click through two menus to get to an item?  For example, 
if you want to go to User tips  tricks you click on that heading the 
first time and then you are taken to another menu where you have to 
click on User tips  tricks again.


Not complaining here, just a question that I think would make the wiki 
easier to use.


Thanks,
Scott



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: [Solution] malformed simscan header

2011-04-17 Thread Jake Vickers

On 04/17/2011 10:13 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 04/17/2011 07:08 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/14/2011 03:05 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I've come up with a fix:

1) rebuild/reinstall simscan (using qtp-newmodel)
2) service qmail cdb

Both steps appear to be needed to fix the problem.

So it appears that 2 things should be done to keep this from happening
in the future:

1) simscanmk (or qmailctl cdb) should be run as part of the %post
process in the simscan spec file.

What do you think, Jake?

2) whenever clamav is updated (and probably spamassassin too), simscan
should be rebuilt and reinstalled as well. I can take care of updating
qtp-newmodel to do this.



Does simscan require a recompile, or just simscanmk (-g)? I believe this
is on the wiki somewhere.


- 



Simply doing a service qmail cdb (which invokes simscanmk [-g]) 
didn't fix the problem. I had to rebuild and reinstall the binary rpm, 
then do simscanmk (cdb).





Is this for all clamav updates, or just for pre-0.96.1 updates to a 
current update? Does t require the recompile every time, or just when 
going from pre-0.96.1 to anything newer one time only?



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Dovecot Upgrade

2011-04-17 Thread Scott Hughes

On 4/16/11 12:15 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:

On 4/16/11 9:34 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 04/16/2011 06:31 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:

Eric,

Are the manual Dovecot install instructions still available? I can't 
seem to locate them on the wiki.




Page History link in the left column of the page.

Okay - I have now configured a test VM with the latest QMT and the old 
manual dovecot 1.x.  I then upgraded the dovecot to the new RPM 
version of dovecot 2.0.  All went clean with no issues. I used the rpm 
stock dovecot.conf.  The only errors that I got (and they are minor) 
are upon start-up I get this:


Starting Dovecot Imap: doveconf: Warning: NOTE: You can get a new 
clean config file with: doveconf -n  dovecot-new.conf
doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/toaster.conf:26: 
protocols=imaps is no longer necessary, remove it

Warning: Corrected permissions for login directory /var/run/dovecot/login

Tested by telneting to 143  993 and I was able to connect just fine.  
One thing I noticed is that when you telnet to 143 you get the dovecot 
banner.  When you telnet to 993 you do not.  Dovecot 1.x does the 
exact same thing.  Just something strange I noticed.


I have made some updates to the wiki (minor). Please check me on them 
and edit them if you see the need, or of course, a better way!


Thanks for your work Eric!

Thanks,
Scott

Okay - everyone stand back!  I'm getting ready to convert / upgrade my 
production server from the manual install of Dovecot 1.x to the latest 
and greatest RPM and Dovecot 2.x


*GULP!*

Scott



[qmailtoaster] Re: qmt wiki

2011-04-17 Thread Eric Shubert

On 04/17/2011 07:24 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:

On 4/17/11 9:18 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/16/2011 03:56 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

Is that something someone else can do, or would you rather keep doing
it yourself? I expect someone would be willing to do this on an
ongoing basis. Sort of a wiki custodian. If you'd like to delgate
this, why not solicit some help on the list?


This was a conversation regarding the spam on the wiki.
I currently ban 10-20 accounts a week for posting spam.
I am going to take the wiki down one evening this week after work
(after 1am EDT) and do some maintenance. One change will be a change
from the math captcha to a graphical captcha. If anyone has visual
disabilities that this hinders, send me a message off-list.

Once the maintenance is done, I will be looking for volunteers to help
keep the wiki clean. I'm adding in some measures to make it more
difficult for spammers to spam up the wiki, but as we all know nothing
is foolproof.

If you are interested, reply off-thread.
Thanks.



I have a general question about the wiki. Is there a way to stop people
from having to click through two menus to get to an item? For example,
if you want to go to User tips  tricks you click on that heading the
first time and then you are taken to another menu where you have to
click on User tips  tricks again.

Not complaining here, just a question that I think would make the wiki
easier to use.

Thanks,
Scott

-


I think that's annoying too. I wasn't able to figure out how to do this 
when I was doing the layout. I imagine there's a way though. It'd be 
great if someone figures it out.


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[qmailtoaster] Re: Dovecot Upgrade

2011-04-17 Thread Eric Shubert

On 04/17/2011 08:06 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:

On 4/17/11 9:32 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:


Okay - everyone stand back! I'm getting ready to convert / upgrade my
production server from the manual install of Dovecot 1.x to the latest
and greatest RPM and Dovecot 2.x

*GULP!*

Scott


I have now upgraded my production box to the RPM Dovecot (2.0.11)
version and all went smoothly. It actually seems faster on my client at
home (Thunderbird checking three mailboxes (different domains) on the
same server).

The conversion took about 5 minutes and the instructions on the wiki
were exactly on target.

Thanks,
Scott



Glad to hear this, Scott. Thanks.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Dovecot Upgrade

2011-04-17 Thread Scott Hughes

On 4/17/11 10:09 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 04/17/2011 08:06 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:

On 4/17/11 9:32 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:


Okay - everyone stand back! I'm getting ready to convert / upgrade my
production server from the manual install of Dovecot 1.x to the latest
and greatest RPM and Dovecot 2.x

*GULP!*

Scott


I have now upgraded my production box to the RPM Dovecot (2.0.11)
version and all went smoothly. It actually seems faster on my client at
home (Thunderbird checking three mailboxes (different domains) on the
same server).

The conversion took about 5 minutes and the instructions on the wiki
were exactly on target.

Thanks,
Scott



Glad to hear this, Scott. Thanks.

I figured you'd like a bit of feedback for all the work you put into the 
task.


My next step is to take the new machine (VM) I built yesterday and 
perform the replication (from Jake's video) so that we have two servers 
running about 10 minutes apart.  Nothing like a hot backup if one goes down!


I've tried this before and out of three times I've tried, only one has 
worked.  The bad news on that one time that worked is that the server 
and internet speed at the remote site was way too slow, so it caused 
issues and had to be terminiated.  The MySQL replication works perfectly 
every time.  It's the Unison part that failed the last two times.  Cross 
your fingers!


Thanks,
Scott



[qmailtoaster] Re: [Solution] malformed simscan header

2011-04-17 Thread Eric Shubert

On 04/17/2011 07:32 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/17/2011 10:13 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 04/17/2011 07:08 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/14/2011 03:05 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I've come up with a fix:

1) rebuild/reinstall simscan (using qtp-newmodel)
2) service qmail cdb

Both steps appear to be needed to fix the problem.

So it appears that 2 things should be done to keep this from happening
in the future:

1) simscanmk (or qmailctl cdb) should be run as part of the %post
process in the simscan spec file.

What do you think, Jake?

2) whenever clamav is updated (and probably spamassassin too), simscan
should be rebuilt and reinstalled as well. I can take care of updating
qtp-newmodel to do this.



Does simscan require a recompile, or just simscanmk (-g)? I believe this
is on the wiki somewhere.


-



Simply doing a service qmail cdb (which invokes simscanmk [-g])
didn't fix the problem. I had to rebuild and reinstall the binary rpm,
then do simscanmk (cdb).




Is this for all clamav updates, or just for pre-0.96.1 updates to a
current update? Does t require the recompile every time, or just when
going from pre-0.96.1 to anything newer one time only?

-


Good questions that hadn't occurred to me.

After a little more testing, I've confirmed that:
.) cdb must be rebuilt after reinstalling simscan. Otherwise it stays 
broken. This was on a system running clamav-0.96.5.
.) after a clamav update from 0.96.5 to 0.97.0, it was broken again, and 
a simply cdb fixed it this time w/out rebuilding/reinstalling simscan.


My thinking from this is that simscanmk should be run after any clamav 
or simscan (or spamassassin) upgrade. In addition, the simscan package 
should be rebuilt/reinstalled after clamav is upgraded from pre-0.96 to 
post-0.95.


I haven't dug into the code to see what actually causes the problem, 
since simscan will be going away in v2. ;)


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: patch utility under Fedora 13

2011-04-17 Thread David Bray
Hi Jake thanks for replying

this was my build results - I agree, don't worry about Fedora 13, 15 is
just around the corner. But the VM at this providor is only 13 - I have
this up and running now

Where I had to manually specify the target, the first line of the patch
refers to a file without path, adding ./ to the front of the file and
using -p1 did the trick , -p0 is not the same as no -p at all


daemontools-toaster-*.src.rpm
= changes p0 - p1

ucspi-tcp-toaster-*.src.rpm
= changes p0 - p1
= one patch had to manually specify target

vpopmail-toaster-*.src.rpm
= Unsure, think there was one p0 - p1, but made no notes

libdomainkeys-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes
libsrs2-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes

qmail-toaster-*.src.rpm
= changes p0 - p1
= two patchs had to manually specify target

courier-authlib-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes

courier-imap-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes

autorespond-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes

control-panel-toaster-*.src.rpm
= no changes
= warning: line 529: prereq is deprecated: Prereq:
/usr/bin/perl
= warning: line 529: prereq is deprecated: Prereq:
/usr/bin/perl
= warning: line 632: prereq is deprecated: Prereq:/usr/bin/perl

ezmlm-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes
qmailadmin-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes
qmailmrtg-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes
maildrop-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes

isoqlog-toaster-*.src.rpm
= changes p0 - p1
= warning: line 517: buildprereq is deprecated: BuildPreReq: 
qmail-toaster = 1.03, control-panel-toaster = 0.2

vqadmin-toaster-*.src.rpm
= changes p0 - p1
= one patch (user.c) had to manually specify target

squirrelmail-toaster-*.src.rpm
= changes p0 - p1
= warning: line 554: prereq is deprecated: Prereq:
/usr/bin/perl
= warning: line 554: prereq is deprecated: Prereq:
/usr/bin/perl

spamassassin-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes
clamav-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes
ripmime-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes
simscan-toaster-*.src.rpm= no changes



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On 18/04/2011 12:03 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:
 On 04/15/2011 07:33 PM, David Bray wrote:
 Hi Martin

 It does help to understand how this work, but I'm still left puzzled.

 I can compile it manually, but work with a life of 6 month on the
 servers and update and move the data, so it important to me that I get
 the install process right to make the migration quick ... hence the time
 spent on this.



 You can send me a list of packages that fail. I have already
 re-diff'ed some packages to bring the patch files current.
 I will test this under F14, but I will not test under F13.

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[qmailtoaster] QMT 2.x Question

2011-04-17 Thread Scott Hughes

I guess this question is for Jake and Eric.

In general terms (very general since I know you both are busy people), 
when do you think QMT 2.0 will be out?


Thanks,
Scott



[qmailtoaster] Re: QMT 2.x Question

2011-04-17 Thread Eric Shubert

On 04/17/2011 04:37 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:

I guess this question is for Jake and Eric.

In general terms (very general since I know you both are busy people),
when do you think QMT 2.0 will be out?

Thanks,
Scott



V2 development is pretty much all Jake at this point, which is why I 
like it when he doesn't have to do other QMT related things, so his 
(limited) time can be spent on v2 as much as possible. Jake's the only 
one who *might* be able to answer this question.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT 2.x Question

2011-04-17 Thread Scott Hughes



On 4/17/11 7:06 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 04/17/2011 04:37 PM, Scott Hughes wrote:

I guess this question is for Jake and Eric.

In general terms (very general since I know you both are busy people),
when do you think QMT 2.0 will be out?

Thanks,
Scott



V2 development is pretty much all Jake at this point, which is why I 
like it when he doesn't have to do other QMT related things, so his 
(limited) time can be spent on v2 as much as possible. Jake's the only 
one who *might* be able to answer this question.



Gottcha. Thanks Eric.

Scott


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: [Solution] malformed simscan header

2011-04-17 Thread Pak Ogah

On 04/17/11 23:18, Eric Shubert wrote:


...
I haven't dug into the code to see what actually causes the problem, 
since simscan will be going away in v2. ;)



what will replace simscan on qmt v2?
amavisd?

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