Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-24 Thread Angelique Novak
Of course he'd feel differently if his family or he needed embryonic stem cell research! But, he'd probably do it "top secret." Can't get a slap on the wrist with a ruler from the Pope that way. -Angelique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/23/2006 2:33:12 PM Central Daylight Time,

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-24 Thread RollinOn
interesting. Uncovered: The Truth about the war in Iraq. It interviews CIA officials General and Inspectorsand many more. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07/23/06 18:59:51 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" B

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-24 Thread ~LittleQuad~
--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07/23/06 18:59:51 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture"Bush jumped at Sadam to finish what his daddy started - Very few yelled at GHWB in '91. Sadam was the biggest bully in the area blowing all sorts of rhet

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-24 Thread RollinOn
SorryAmye, I'mdone with it. It's does seempointless. Mark ---Original Message--- From: ~LittleQuad~ Date: 07/24/06 15:57:53 To: RollinOn; quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" isn't there a political list you guy

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-24 Thread wheelchair
In a message dated 7/24/2006 11:13:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course he'd feel differently if his family or he needed embryonic stem cell research! But, he'd probably do it "top secret." Can't get a slap on the wrist with a ruler from the Pope that way.

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread Tim Thompson
just curious on what makeskilling thesepeople sodifferent so please answer. Mark ---Original Message--- From: tahouston Date: 07/22/06 15:26:04 To: Tim Thompson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture I could not have said it better! T

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread RollinOn
; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tahouston Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" Since you said please...Innocent people are not purposely being targeted to be killed. At least not by U.S. military. The U.S. military uses every option available to avoid killing innoc

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread RollinOn
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" "Intent" On 7/22/06, RollinOn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it'sok to kill innocent civilians in the name of Freedom? How come nobody will answer that question? It's being done by the same man, right? Why is it ok tosacr

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread wheelchair
In a message dated 7/23/2006 2:33:12 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Intent" I wish, hope and pray that nothing bad happens to our standing president, his family or loved ones. But I wonder if the President would have acted any differently if a close family member was

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
It is not ok to kill people. We are talking about exploiting the availability of human tissue. Just stem cells. These are not and never will be humans. These are unassigned cells. They have no thoughts, no ambitions, no sense of self, and most importantly, no womb. If I gave you all the pieces

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread RollinOn
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" It is not ok to kill people. We are talking about exploiting the availability of human tissue. Just

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread Jim Lubin
At 12:52 PM 7/23/2006, RollinOn wrote: So they knew they were going to kill them but it wasn't there intent and that's your answer? So let's try not to kill the embryos in the process and we have a compromise. Yes, that is my answer. I am all for stem cell research that does not involve taking

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread Jim Lubin
At 01:27 PM 7/23/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not ok to kill people. We are talking about exploiting the availability of human tissue. Just stem cells. These are not and never will be humans. These are unassigned cells. They have no thoughts, no ambitions, no sense of self, and most

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread RollinOn
To: RollinOn; Tim Thompson Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" At 12:52 PM 7/23/2006, RollinOn wrote: So they knew they were going to kill them but it wasn't there intent and that's your answer?So let's try not to kill the embryos in the process and we have a comp

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread Dan
At 08:34 PM 7/22/2006 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my response: Innocent people are not purposely being targeted to be killed. At least not by U.S. military. The U.S. military uses every option available to avoid killing innocent people. You're kidding, right? How

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread Oconnelldb
Jim, How do you feel about us killing cows and chickens to eat? What about euthanizing dogs and cats at the pound to control the population? Do rats and monkeys fall into the protected group? How about killing flys and mosquitoes - they feed the larger animals you know. In a related point

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread Silas
. Nature means less population! Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" Jim, How do you feel about us killing cows and chickens to

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread Oconnelldb
many in harms way all over the world. Nature means less population! Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Pi

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread Oconnelldb
Not an evil dictator, really? You missed all the reports huh? Kuwaties got in his way, Kurds were gassed in very large numbers. He shot, killed, raped, plundered hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen so he was certainly evil. He might not have been the MOST evil dictator on the

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread Jim Lubin
Dave, I personally feel HUMAN life needs to be protected when possible. Hmm, let me rephrase that to innocent human lifes. I do believe in the death penalty for violent criminals when their crime can be proven without any doubt. When it comes to non-human life (animals and insects), treat them

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
He was wahabi and bath and you are right! I didn't care what saddam did as long as he did it to his friends, the kuwaitis, the saudis, the kurds and the iranians. Why should America care if we are buying oil from a sadistic rotten dictator, instead of another sadistic rotten dictator. A little

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-22 Thread tahouston
I could not have said it better! T Houston - Original Message - From: Tim Thompson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" The Stem Cell "Dilema"In my opinion,

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-22 Thread RollinOn
sodifferent so please answer. Mark ---Original Message--- From: tahouston Date: 07/22/06 15:26:04 To: Tim Thompson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" I could not have said it better! T Houston - Original Message - From: Ti

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-22 Thread Jim Lubin
At 01:09 PM 7/21/2006, Tim Thompson wrote: The Stem Cell Dilema In my opinion, the deeper issue requires an insight into how an Inch keeps turning into the horror mile. The problem some people have with seeing the bigger picture is they are blinded by their personal hatred (distrust, dislike,

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-22 Thread Jim Lubin
Since you said please... Innocent people are not purposely being targeted to be killed. At least not by U.S. military. The U.S. military uses every option available to avoid killing innocent people. In the case where those soldiers are accused of raping that girl and killing the family, if they

[QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-21 Thread Tim Thompson
The Stem Cell Dilema In my opinion, the deeper issue requires an insight into how an Inch keeps turning into the horror mile. Org Roe vs Wade was nothing more than lifting the restriction on abortion during the 1st tri-mester That inch was twisted into a Constitutional Right to the point of

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-21 Thread Angelique Novak
Partial birth abortions are something I'm not keen on, but the choice shouldn't be taken away. What's so great about human life? There's too many people alive already. Most of which are assholes. So what if embryos are made for parts? If they aren't yours, it shouldn't matter. That's my opinion.

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-21 Thread RollinOn
--- From: Angelique Novak Date: 07/21/06 15:34:07 To: Tim Thompson; Quad List Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture" Partial birth abortions are something I'm not keen on, but the choice shouldn't be taken away. What's so great about human life? There's too many people ali

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-21 Thread Eric Olson
This whole issue of stem cells is a waste of time. The genie is out of the bottle. Embryonic stem cells are going to continue to be researched further and further whether any of us like it or not. It's going to be heavily funded by the U.S. government too. Just a matter of when. Stunt as

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-21 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I simplify the moral question easily by asking myself, is there a moral reason not to use tissue from a dying "human"? We do transplants and it is never questioned. On many death penalty cases the personto die is allowed to offer organs to be donated. A baby born with no brain donates heart and