Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Carolyn Boyles]

A lot of the folks in the Arkansas Spinal Cord Commission's support 
group use the same chair as Debra and really like it. Most of these I'm 
thinking of are on workman's compensation and that's how they get their 
chairs paid for.


Carolyn

[QUAD-L] the wheelchair junkie

[DEBRA DEW]

I just wanted to share something with you that I was reading about another 
quadriplegic named Mark Smith. He had a website called the wheelchair junkie 
and it was his advice that told me what was the Cadillac of power chairs in the 
nineteen nineties  so I would know  which one to buy. Mark would get 
demonstration models of each power chair and use them for a while to figure out 
which one was the best. I would never have known what to buy without his advice 
 and he was certainly right on. I just discovered he died at 40 years old from 
cerebral palsy. I just wanted to show you a line from the website that someone 
wrote… At the deceased’s request, no service will be held, as he “has a better 
place to be that day” – presuming that The Pearly Gates is wheelchair 
accessible, and Saint Peter lets him in.


How wonderful that he knew he had a better place to be that day..


Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER OF HOPE ZECH. 9
Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a nursing home
Phone: 561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs
ROMANS 8:28
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Re: [QUAD-L] funding for a power chair and question about vocational rehab

[wheelchair]

Lets begin with Combine Medical Services.  With an order from a  medical 
doctor that specializes in Rehab Medicine and order for evaluation, by  an 
Occupational Therapist.  States may vary so contact Medicare/Medicaid in  your 
region for the best answer.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2017 9:06:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
n14...@hotmail.com writes:

 
is there any alternatives to funding for a power chair aside from  
vocational rehab? What about Medicaid? 

Folk rehab bought me my 1st 


Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER  OF HOPE ZECH. 9
Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and  pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a  nursing home
Phone: 561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs  
ROMANS  8:28  
B.I.B.L.E.-BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING  EARTH 

[QUAD-L] Fw: funding for a power chair and question about vocational rehab

[DEBRA DEW]

please read the message below. I was halfway through writing it  when I said 
the word chair,  but Dragon thought I said share,, and posted the message 
prematurely. Sorry about that


Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER OF HOPE ZECH. 9
Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a nursing home
Phone: 561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs
ROMANS 8:28
B.I.B.L.E.-BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH



From: DEBRA DEW 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:02 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: funding for a power chair and question about vocational rehab


is there any alternatives to funding for a power chair aside from vocational 
rehab? What about Medicaid?



vocational rehabilitation purchased my 1st chair for me but now I am in a 
nursing home and I don't know if that will disqualify me or not. Any 
information would be appreciated.Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers 
-PRISONER OF HOPE ZECH. 9

Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a nursing home
Phone: 561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs
ROMANS 8:28
B.I.B.L.E.-BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH

[QUAD-L] funding for a power chair and question about vocational rehab

[DEBRA DEW]

is there any alternatives to funding for a power chair aside from vocational 
rehab? What about Medicaid?


Folk rehab bought me my 1st


Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER OF HOPE ZECH. 9
Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a nursing home
Phone: 561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs
ROMANS 8:28
B.I.B.L.E.-BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[DEBRA DEW]

I love my Permobil chairman power chair.  I paid $23,000 for it and a 
replacement now is $40,000 and I'm trying to get another one. It was fully 
articulating so you can sleep at night in it if you're so desired. I was more 
comfortable in my chair then I was in my bed. I purchased it because Mark 
Smith, the wheelchair junkie, said it was the "Cadillac of power chairs" and 
that was in the nineteen 
nineties.….https://www.shermanoaksmedical.com/Permobil_Power_Wheelchairs_p/permobil-f5.htm

[http://www.shermanoaksmedical.com/v/vspfiles/photos/PERMOBIL-F5-2T.jpg]

Permobil F5 Corpus Rehab Power Wheelchair Has Driving 
...
www.shermanoaksmedical.com
Permobil F5 Corpus Rehab Power Wheelchair has maximum speed of 7.5 mph, driving 
range of 16 miles and maximum weight capacity of 300 lbs.




Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER OF HOPE ZECH. 9
Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a nursing home
Phone: 561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs
ROMANS 8:28
B.I.B.L.E.-BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH



From: Nichole Rohling 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:59 PM
To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair


I would do a commercial for them! I honestly can’t imagine being in anything 
but Invacare,.

Thank you so much for your advice over the years!



Nicki



From: wheelch...@aol.com [mailto:wheelch...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 5:31 PM
To: zoocr...@windstream.net; ju...@jlar.org; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair



When you call Invacare Customer Service, be prepared to lay it on thick.  Let 
them know you love their chair and would not want to be stuck in another brand, 
 start crying if you must.  Let them know what the vendors are doing to 
consumers. Who knows what they can do for you.  Good Luck and I hope you 
win an Oscar !



Best Wishes



In a message dated 6/19/2017 12:42:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

They told me we would have to prove that no other chair would work for me? Did 
you have this same experience?



Nicki



From: Julie [mailto:ju...@jlar.org]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:03 PM
To: 'Nichole Rohling'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair



Hi,

I am getting a new Invacare Torque 3 Wednesday.  They were halted for a couple 
years, so I waited but they are at least in operation now.

Julie

From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair



Need your opinions and input please



I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and I 
am getting ready to get a new chair.

This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow Storms. 
They are no longer making this chair :(

I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I 
want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair

And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or Quantum 
Rival.



They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think 
that’s right) and their concern is if I got the

Invacare they might quit making parts for it.



I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really have 
trust issues with them)

. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 have 
lasted 19 years.



What would you recommend?



Nicki

RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Nichole Rohling]

I would do a commercial for them! I honestly can’t imagine being in anything 
but Invacare,.

Thank you so much for your advice over the years!

 

Nicki

 

From: wheelch...@aol.com [mailto:wheelch...@aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 5:31 PM
To: zoocr...@windstream.net; ju...@jlar.org; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

When you call Invacare Customer Service, be prepared to lay it on thick.  Let 
them know you love their chair and would not want to be stuck in another brand, 
 start crying if you must.  Let them know what the vendors are doing to 
consumers. Who knows what they can do for you.  Good Luck and I hope you 
win an Oscar !

 

Best Wishes

 

In a message dated 6/19/2017 12:42:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

They told me we would have to prove that no other chair would work for me? Did 
you have this same experience?

 

Nicki

 

From: Julie [mailto:ju...@jlar.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:03 PM
To: 'Nichole Rohling'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

Hi,

I am getting a new Invacare Torque 3 Wednesday.  They were halted for a couple 
years, so I waited but they are at least in operation now.

Julie

From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

Need your opinions and input please

 

I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and I 
am getting ready to get a new chair.

This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow Storms. 
They are no longer making this chair L

I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I 
want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair

And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or Quantum 
Rival.

 

They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think 
that’s right) and their concern is if I got the

Invacare they might quit making parts for it. 

 

I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really have 
trust issues with them) 

. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 have 
lasted 19 years. 

 

What would you recommend?

 

Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[wheelchair]

Commission people could/would say something like this.  Remember who  they 
work for
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2017 4:15:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Yes,  and they said it would take longer to get the chair. 
Nicki 
 
 
From: Jeffrey Gaede  [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:57  PM
To: Nichole Rohling; 'Julie';  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New  Chair

 
 
Someone is telling  you that you have to prove that no other chair would 
work?  I would want  to see that in writing.
 

 
 
 
 
  

 
From:  Nichole Rohling 
To:  'Julie' ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent:  Monday, June 19, 2017 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New  Chair
 
 
 
 
 
They told me we  would have to prove that no other chair would work for me? 
Did you have this  same experience?
 

 
Nicki
 

 
 
 
From:  Julie [mailto:ju...@jlar.org]  
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:03 PM
To: 'Nichole  Rohling'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair


 

 
Hi,
 
I am getting a new  Invacare Torque 3 Wednesday.  They were halted for a 
couple years, so I  waited but they are at least in operation now.
 
Julie
 
 
 
From: Nichole Rohling  [mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Monday,  June 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] New  Chair


 

 
Need your opinions  and input please
 

 
I have been  injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) 
and I am getting  ready to get a new chair.
 
This will be my  3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow  
Storms. They are no longer making this chair L
 
I hate change! I  went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair 
I want (Invacare  Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair
 
And it would be  difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or 
Quantum  Rival.
 

 
They told me that  an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I 
think that’s right) and  their concern is if I got the
 
Invacare they  might quit making parts for it. 
 

 
I feel they  probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really 
have trust  issues with them) 
 
. I have had  incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 
have lasted 19  years. 
 

 
What would you  recommend?
 

 
Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[wheelchair]

I found this most interesting.  So I called Invacare and read back to  them 
what you wrote.  I was assure that they were still in business and new  
plants continue to open.
 
Have you considered calling your local CMS Office and asking for a written  
copy of the procedure/guideline for someone in need of an electric 
wheelchair,  with a doctor's order.
 
Your salesperson is trying to guide you to a product they stock, for their  
benefit, not yours.  Call Invacare Customer Service and hear from the  
Horse's Mouth... rather than from the Horse's Ass.  (smiling)
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2017 11:48:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Need your opinions and input please 
I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but  I was wrong) 
and I am getting ready to get a new chair. 
This will be my 3rd chair and and my  1st two were Invacare Action Arrow 
Storms. They are no longer  making this chair L 
I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was  told the chair 
I want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4  chair 
And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a  Permobil C350 or 
Quantum Rival. 
They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by  the FDA ( I 
think that’s right) and their concern is if I got  the 
Invacare they might quit making parts for it.   
I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs  (I just really 
have trust issues with them)  
. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs,  obviously since 2 
have lasted 19 years.  
What would you recommend? 
Nicki

RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Nichole Rohling]

Thank you Raymond

 

From: Raymond Kelly [mailto:kelra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:40 PM
To: 'Nichole Rohling'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

>From what I have heard about Invacare I would stay away from them if you
can. I get my wheelchairs through the VA and they said they will not deal
with Invacare anymore until they get there FDA problem straightened out. I
have had a couple different wheelchair vendors basically tell me the same
thing. I can tell you that I have had two permobil wheelchair so far and I
have had very good luck with them. I know firsthand that Permobil does make
a very good product.

That is my 2 cents.

 

Raymond

C3/4 complete

 

From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

Need your opinions and input please

 

I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and
I am getting ready to get a new chair.

This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow
Storms. They are no longer making this chair L

I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I
want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair

And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or
Quantum Rival.

 

They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think
that's right) and their concern is if I got the

Invacare they might quit making parts for it. 

 

I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really
have trust issues with them) 

. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 have
lasted 19 years. 

 

What would you recommend?

 

Nicki

RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Nichole Rohling]

I was anxiously awaiting your response Wheelchair! I will call  my CMS office 
and ask. Invacare has been nothing but wonderful and helpful to me, why would I 
want to change?

 

Nicki

 

From: wheelch...@aol.com [mailto:wheelch...@aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:15 PM
To: zoocr...@windstream.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

I found this most interesting.  So I called Invacare and read back to them what 
you wrote.  I was assure that they were still in business and new plants 
continue to open.

 

Have you considered calling your local CMS Office and asking for a written copy 
of the procedure/guideline for someone in need of an electric wheelchair, with 
a doctor's order.

 

Your salesperson is trying to guide you to a product they stock, for their 
benefit, not yours.  Call Invacare Customer Service and hear from the Horse's 
Mouth... rather than from the Horse's Ass. (smiling)

Best Wishes

 

In a message dated 6/19/2017 11:48:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

Need your opinions and input please

 

I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and I 
am getting ready to get a new chair.

This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow Storms. 
They are no longer making this chair L

I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I 
want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair

And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or Quantum 
Rival.

 

They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think 
that’s right) and their concern is if I got the

Invacare they might quit making parts for it. 

 

I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really have 
trust issues with them) 

. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 have 
lasted 19 years. 

 

What would you recommend?

 

Nicki

RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Nichole Rohling]

Yes, and they said it would take longer to get the chair.

Nicki

 

From: Jeffrey Gaede [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:57 PM
To: Nichole Rohling; 'Julie'; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

Someone is telling you that you have to prove that no other chair would work?  
I would want to see that in writing.

 

  _  

From: Nichole Rohling 
To: 'Julie' ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

They told me we would have to prove that no other chair would work for me? Did 
you have this same experience?

 

Nicki

 

From: Julie [mailto:ju...@jlar.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:03 PM
To: 'Nichole Rohling'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

Hi,

I am getting a new Invacare Torque 3 Wednesday.  They were halted for a couple 
years, so I waited but they are at least in operation now.

Julie

From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

Need your opinions and input please

 

I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and I 
am getting ready to get a new chair.

This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow Storms. 
They are no longer making this chair L

I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I 
want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair

And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or Quantum 
Rival.

 

They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think 
that’s right) and their concern is if I got the

Invacare they might quit making parts for it. 

 

I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really have 
trust issues with them) 

. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 have 
lasted 19 years. 

 

What would you recommend?

 

Nicki

 

RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Nichole Rohling]

Good to know

 

From: Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 2:20 PM
To: Nichole Rohling
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

No, Mine has to be open also...never had the solid type, Will not work for me 
either. Dan H***

 

On Monday, June 19, 2017 1:34 PM, Nichole Rohling  
wrote:

 

Thanks, the Quantum Rival is made by Pride Mobility. Do you have the footrest 
that is more like a platform and is solid?

I eat out a lot and need my footrests to have space between them to straddle 
the post if a table has single post, that is

Definitely a must for me.

 

Nicki

 

From: Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:03 PM
To: Nichole Rohling; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

My last 2 chairs have been invacare storm series also with rear wheel drive, I 
just had to get a new chair and wanted the same, since they work for us plus 
fit in our mini astro wheelchair van..They told me everyone including 
invacare is getting away from the rear wheel drive chairs, so my supplier 
ordered me a chair from Pride Mobility that still makes a rear wheel drive, 
They use Quantam Electronics I think. So far I am very happy with this new 
chair except my legs are so long that I don't have very much clearance from the 
floor...so I have to recline back a few inches when going over ramps,thresholds 
or outside, I'm now used to that but most people would not have this problem 
probably. I love the Electronics...they have a quick change button that can 
switch from tilt/leg lift or back into drive and then 4 speeds of drive, this 
chair is fast goes 7.5 mph. It even has a built in clock and how many miles you 
driveSince I got it in February I have put 91.3  miles on it. The tires are 
extremely good and show zero wear so far.( my invacare tires would be at 
least a quarter of the way worn out already) so these must be very well made.  
I now have my last chair going as a back up but my old back up chair I am 
giving away if anyone wants it or needs partsIt works and has the charger 
with it but has set so long It would need the batteries replaced...It is also 
and invacare storm rear wheel drive chair with tilt and leg lift, there is a 
place online called Wholesare batteries that sells all the same batteries we 
need for much,much cheaper than the suppliers do.  Dan H. St. Louis, Mo. area.

 

On Monday, June 19, 2017 11:49 AM, Nichole Rohling  
wrote:

 

Need your opinions and input please

 

I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and I 
am getting ready to get a new chair.

This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow Storms. 
They are no longer making this chair L

I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I 
want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair

And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or Quantum 
Rival.

 

They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think 
that’s right) and their concern is if I got the

Invacare they might quit making parts for it. 

 

I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really have 
trust issues with them) 

. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 have 
lasted 19 years. 

 

What would you recommend?

 

Nicki

 

 

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Jeffrey Gaede]

Like I was saying earlier, you have to basically live in the chair for who 
knows how many years.  You should be making that choice.  I'm in a Pride chair 
now, after two Invacares.  If I hadn't been steered away from Invacare, that's 
what I would have.  I don't like this Pride chair.  Would I be happier in an 
Invacare?  I don't know but it would've been completely my decision without any 
steering by others.

  From: Nichole Rohling 
 To: 'Jeffrey Gaede' ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:47 PM
 Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair
   
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they said it would take longer to get the chair.Nicki  From: Jeffrey Gaede 
[mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:57 PM
To: Nichole Rohling; 'Julie'; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair  Someone is telling you that you have to prove 
that no other chair would work?  I would want to see that in writing.  From: 
Nichole Rohling 
To: 'Julie' ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair  They told me we would have to prove that no 
other chair would work for me? Did you have this same experience? Nicki From: 
Julie [mailto:ju...@jlar.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:03 PM
To: 'Nichole Rohling'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair Hi,I am getting a new Invacare Torque 3 
Wednesday.  They were halted for a couple years, so I waited but they are at 
least in operation now.JulieFrom: Nichole Rohling 
[mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair Need your opinions and input please 

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Danny Hearn]

My last 2 chairs have been invacare storm series also with rear wheel drive, I 
just had to get a new chair and wanted the same, since they work for us plus 
fit in our mini astro wheelchair van..They told me everyone including 
invacare is getting away from the rear wheel drive chairs, so my supplier 
ordered me a chair from Pride Mobility that still makes a rear wheel drive, 
They use Quantam Electronics I think. So far I am very happy with this new 
chair except my legs are so long that I don't have very much clearance from the 
floor...so I have to recline back a few inches when going over ramps,thresholds 
or outside, I'm now used to that but most people would not have this problem 
probably. I love the Electronics...they have a quick change button that can 
switch from tilt/leg lift or back into drive and then 4 speeds of drive, this 
chair is fast goes 7.5 mph. It even has a built in clock and how many miles you 
driveSince I got it in February I have put 91.3  miles on it. The tires are 
extremely good and show zero wear so far.( my invacare tires would be at 
least a quarter of the way worn out already) so these must be very well made.  
I now have my last chair going as a back up but my old back up chair I am 
giving away if anyone wants it or needs partsIt works and has the charger 
with it but has set so long It would need the batteries replaced...It is also 
and invacare storm rear wheel drive chair with tilt and leg lift, there is a 
place online called Wholesare batteries that sells all the same batteries we 
need for much,much cheaper than the suppliers do.  Dan H. St. Louis, Mo. area. 

On Monday, June 19, 2017 11:49 AM, Nichole Rohling 
 wrote:
 

 Need your opinions and input please  I have 
been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and I am 
getting ready to get a new chair.This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two 
were Invacare Action Arrow Storms. They are no longer making this chair LI hate 
change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I want 
(Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chairAnd it would be difficult to 
get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or Quantum Rival.  They told me that an 
Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think that’s right) and their 
concern is if I got theInvacare they might quit making parts for it.   I feel 
they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really have trust 
issues with them) . I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, 
obviously since 2 have lasted 19 years.   What would you recommend?  Nicki

   

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Jeffrey Gaede]

Someone is telling you that you have to prove that no other chair would work?  
I would want to see that in writing.

  From: Nichole Rohling 
 To: 'Julie' ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:42 AM
 Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair
   
They told me we would 
have to prove that no other chair would work for me? Did you have this same 
experience?  Nicki  From: Julie [mailto:ju...@jlar.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:03 PM
To: 'Nichole Rohling'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair  Hi,I am getting a new Invacare Torque 3 
Wednesday.  They were halted for a couple years, so I waited but they are at 
least in operation now.JulieFrom: Nichole Rohling 
[mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair  Need your opinions and input please  I have been 
injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and I am getting 
ready to get a new chair.This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were 
Invacare Action Arrow Storms. They are no longer making this chair LI hate 
change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I want 
(Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chairAnd it would be difficult to 
get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or Quantum Rival.  They told me that an 
Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think that’s right) and their 
concern is if I got theInvacare they might quit making parts for it.   I feel 
they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really have trust 
issues with them) . I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, 
obviously since 2 have lasted 19 years.   What would you recommend?  Nicki

   

RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Nichole Rohling]

Thank you for your input!! I called Invacare last fall so looks like I’ll be 
calling again. I know my vendor has

An issue w/ Invacare because they started shipping parts orders together 
instead of separated.

 

Nicki

 

From: Jeffrey Gaede [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:13 PM
To: Nichole Rohling; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

I think that's BS.  Go to the Invacare site.  Last time I went there they were 
fine.  It may take more to get what you want but get what you want.  I didn't.  
I listened to a specific individual who steered me away from Invacare, even 
though my last two chairs were Invacare and I loved them.  Don't settle.  Do 
research.

 

  _  

From: Nichole Rohling 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 9:50 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

Need your opinions and input please

 

I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and I 
am getting ready to get a new chair.

This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow Storms. 
They are no longer making this chair L

I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I 
want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair

And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or Quantum 
Rival.

 

They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think 
that’s right) and their concern is if I got the

Invacare they might quit making parts for it. 

 

I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really have 
trust issues with them) 

. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 have 
lasted 19 years. 

 

What would you recommend?

 

Nicki

 

RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Nichole Rohling]

They told me we would have to prove that no other chair would work for me?
Did you have this same experience?

 

Nicki

 

From: Julie [mailto:ju...@jlar.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:03 PM
To: 'Nichole Rohling'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

Hi,

I am getting a new Invacare Torque 3 Wednesday.  They were halted for a
couple years, so I waited but they are at least in operation now.

Julie

From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair

 

Need your opinions and input please

 

I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and
I am getting ready to get a new chair.

This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow
Storms. They are no longer making this chair L

I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I
want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair

And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or
Quantum Rival.

 

They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think
that's right) and their concern is if I got the

Invacare they might quit making parts for it. 

 

I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really
have trust issues with them) 

. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 have
lasted 19 years. 

 

What would you recommend?

 

Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Jeffrey Gaede]

I think that's BS.  Go to the Invacare site.  Last time I went there they were 
fine.  It may take more to get what you want but get what you want.  I didn't.  
I listened to a specific individual who steered me away from Invacare, even 
though my last two chairs were Invacare and I loved them.  Don't settle.  Do 
research.

  From: Nichole Rohling 
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 9:50 AM
 Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair
   
Need your opinions and input please  I have 
been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and I am 
getting ready to get a new chair.This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two 
were Invacare Action Arrow Storms. They are no longer making this chair LI hate 
change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I want 
(Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chairAnd it would be difficult to 
get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or Quantum Rival.  They told me that an 
Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think that’s right) and their 
concern is if I got theInvacare they might quit making parts for it.   I feel 
they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really have trust 
issues with them) . I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, 
obviously since 2 have lasted 19 years.   What would you recommend?  Nicki

   

[QUAD-L] New Chair

[Nichole Rohling]

Need your opinions and input please

 

I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) and
I am getting ready to get a new chair.

This will be my 3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow
Storms. They are no longer making this chair L

I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair I
want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair

And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or
Quantum Rival.

 

They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I think
that's right) and their concern is if I got the

Invacare they might quit making parts for it. 

 

I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really
have trust issues with them) 

. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 have
lasted 19 years. 

 

What would you recommend?

 

Nicki

[QUAD-L] Pressure sore on foot, suggestions?

[Ron M Pracht]

 I have a pressure sore on my left foot on the heel. Any tricks to get it to 
heal faster? Would taking antibiotics by mouth help? Do you need to air out at 
night or keep covered at all times?
 Quad 98, Ron