Re: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals

2007-02-11 Thread Angie Novak
You can request a patient advocate, if need be.  That makes them listen to the 
patient, so I've been told.

RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey yall,
   
  I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put 
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on 
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people 
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It 
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With the 
grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever believes 
anything I say when I go in the hospital. 
   
  Ron c7 St Louis 


 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals that almost killed me!

2007-02-09 Thread B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\)
That is why I try my best to make sure that I only go to hospitals that are 
extraordinarily familiar with SCI.  I had some difficulty some years back and 
had to take an ambulance to the hospital.  My brother tried to hand them, the 
EMTs, a card on dysreflexia, but they had no idea what the hell it was.
Quadius

Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I was almost killed at our local 
hospital after recent sugery.
  I went in for sugery to remove 2 hemmhroid. 1 bleeding internal and 1 outside
  I printed out 5 pages of info on AD and took it with me to the hospiital 
because I knew that dysreflexia would happen.
  I was to stay overnight because they were to put packing in my rectum to stop 
any bleeding. Well when I awoke from the sugery and ate something, my blood 
pressure(bp) spiked to 190 over 130. it usually is around 90 over 70. 
  I showed the nurse the papers about AD and told her that I wanted to see a 
doctor. I told her to take the packing out and see if the blood pressure would 
drop. This was around 4pm. She called the doctor and he told her to put me on 
pills every 15 minutes and IV'ed another blood pressure medications every 1/2 
hour. Plus they gave me morphine and other pain meds for my headache. 
Well, this went on untill 9 pm. My b.p. finally lowered. An emergency room doc 
showed up at 9:30pm. [5.5 hours later] He asked, Why did I think I needed a 
doctor. I told him about AD and sked him if he ever treated it before. He said 
yes and that is all i remember because i was so drugged up.
  So, around 10pm, i felt funny and i asked the nurse to check my bp. She did 
and it was 60 over 30. So, they put me on drugs to raise my bp. Around 2:30am, 
my bp was around normal. They never removed the packing until sometime after 
this. Then my bp stayed normal and I went home at 11am.
   
  There is alot more to the story that blows me away on how healthcare 
officials do not listen to their patients and they think they know it all. I 
had the systoms and causes in black and white. Wow! 
   
  Please let me know of any good website links to info about AD. I am making it 
a mission that this does not happen to anyone else.
   
  Derrick Winegardner
  c/5 
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: RONALD L PRACHT 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:36 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals
  

  Hey yall,
   
  I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put 
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on 
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people 
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It 
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With the 
grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever believes 
anything I say when I go in the hospital. 
   
  Ron c7 St Louis 

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Re: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals

2007-02-08 Thread Danny Hearn
  Ron, they told me that while i'm getting ready for an operation and getting 
IVS put in and blood drawn that my blood pressure sometimes shoots up also but 
said after a little while it slows back down...they said this happens a lot and 
is usually due to nerves and anxiety. However like during my recent bladder 
stone removal, I did get disreflexia but the Urologist is very familiar with 
that and knows about meds and how to help control it. Him and the 
anestesiologist woke me up twice during the surgury to see if i was feeling OK. 
They kept me completely out but just enough that I could be awoke easily and 
fast.it worked great for me.
  Dan H.

Dan Tessiatore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  If you can, go to a teaching 
hospital where they have experience with SCI.  Or were you at a teaching 
hospital?  You really have to advocate for your self when getting medical 
treatment even if you are not disabled.  Hope everyone is more informed and 
things go better next time.  Dan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that info Ron.  But now you know 
that should be covered in the pre-op meeting with your doctor and doctors about 
your precondition and have it written into the doctor's report.  The surgical 
team, must read the pre-op report before they begin to prep you.  Ask LindaF, 
if I'm correct.
  W
   
   
   
   
   
  In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:37:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Hey yall,
   
  I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put 
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on 
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people 
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It 
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With the 
grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever believes 
anything I say when I go in the hospital. 
   
  Ron c7 St Louis 

  
   




Re: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals that almost killed me!

2007-02-08 Thread Derrick
I was almost killed at our local hospital after recent sugery.
I went in for sugery to remove 2 hemmhroid. 1 bleeding internal and 1 outside
I printed out 5 pages of info on AD and took it with me to the hospiital 
because I knew that dysreflexia would happen.
I was to stay overnight because they were to put packing in my rectum to stop 
any bleeding. Well when I awoke from the sugery and ate something, my blood 
pressure(bp) spiked to 190 over 130. it usually is around 90 over 70. 
I showed the nurse the papers about AD and told her that I wanted to see a 
doctor. I told her to take the packing out and see if the blood pressure would 
drop. This was around 4pm. She called the doctor and he told her to put me on 
pills every 15 minutes and IV'ed another blood pressure medications every 1/2 
hour. Plus they gave me morphine and other pain meds for my headache. 
Well, this went on untill 9 pm. My b.p. finally lowered. An emergency room doc 
showed up at 9:30pm. [5.5 hours later] He asked, Why did I think I needed a 
doctor. I told him about AD and sked him if he ever treated it before. He said 
yes and that is all i remember because i was so drugged up.
So, around 10pm, i felt funny and i asked the nurse to check my bp. She did and 
it was 60 over 30. So, they put me on drugs to raise my bp. Around 2:30am, my 
bp was around normal. They never removed the packing until sometime after this. 
Then my bp stayed normal and I went home at 11am.

There is alot more to the story that blows me away on how healthcare officials 
do not listen to their patients and they think they know it all. I had the 
systoms and causes in black and white. Wow! 

Please let me know of any good website links to info about AD. I am making it a 
mission that this does not happen to anyone else.

Derrick Winegardner
c/5 



  - Original Message - 
  From: RONALD L PRACHT 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:36 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals


  Hey yall,

  I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put 
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on 
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people 
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It 
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With the 
grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever believes 
anything I say when I go in the hospital. 

  Ron c7 St Louis 


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Re: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals that almost killed me!

2007-02-08 Thread Tim Thompson

PVA provided online AD manual
http://www.pva.org/site/DocServer/AD2.pdf?docID=565

On 2/8/07, Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was almost killed at our local hospital after recent sugery.
I went in for sugery to remove 2 hemmhroid. 1 bleeding internal and 1
outside
I printed out 5 pages of info on AD and took it with me to the hospiital
because I knew that dysreflexia would happen.
I was to stay overnight because they were to put packing in my rectum to
stop any bleeding. Well when I awoke from the sugery and ate something, my
blood pressure(bp) spiked to 190 over 130. it usually is around 90 over 70.
I showed the nurse the papers about AD and told her that I wanted to see a
doctor. I told her to take the packing out and see if the blood pressure
would drop. This was around 4pm. She called the doctor and he told her to
put me on pills every 15 minutes and IV'ed another blood pressure
medications every 1/2 hour. Plus they gave me morphine and other pain meds
for my headache.
Well, this went on untill 9 pm. My b.p. finally lowered. An emergency room
doc showed up at 9:30pm. [5.5 hours later] He asked, Why did I think I
needed a doctor. I told him about AD and sked him if he ever treated it
before. He said yes and that is all i remember because i was so drugged up.
So, around 10pm, i felt funny and i asked the nurse to check my bp. She did
and it was 60 over 30. So, they put me on drugs to raise my bp. Around
2:30am, my bp was around normal. They never removed the packing until
sometime after this. Then my bp stayed normal and I went home at 11am.

There is alot more to the story that blows me away on how healthcare
officials do not listen to their patients and they think they know it all. I
had the systoms and causes in black and white. Wow!

Please let me know of any good website links to info about AD. I am making
it a mission that this does not happen to anyone else.

Derrick Winegardner
c/5



- Original Message -
From: RONALD L PRACHT
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:36 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals

Hey yall,

I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With
the grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever
believes anything I say when I go in the hospital.

Ron c7 St Louis




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Re: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals that almost killed me!

2007-02-08 Thread Dan Tessiatore
Darrick, I experienced a similar situation.  In 2005 I was experiencing extreme 
spasticity and my blood pressure was 230/130 and I ended up in the ER where 
they gave me two doses of morphine and other meds of which I am not sure.  It 
turns out I had a UTI and was admitted.  Later that night the nurse could not 
get a blood pressure on me and couldn't initially wake me up.  I don't remember 
what my BP was what it was but it low and I ended up in intensive care for 
several days and I had one nurse their from hell but that is another story.  
It's wise to learn your injury and advocate for yourself medically.  
Hypereflexia can cause stroke or death.  Glad it wasn't our turn Derrick. Dan T.

Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I was almost killed at our local 
hospital after recent sugery.
  I went in for sugery to remove 2 hemmhroid. 1 bleeding internal and 1 outside
  I printed out 5 pages of info on AD and took it with me to the hospiital 
because I knew that dysreflexia would happen.
  I was to stay overnight because they were to put packing in my rectum to stop 
any bleeding. Well when I awoke from the sugery and ate something, my blood 
pressure(bp) spiked to 190 over 130. it usually is around 90 over 70. 
  I showed the nurse the papers about AD and told her that I wanted to see a 
doctor. I told her to take the packing out and see if the blood pressure would 
drop. This was around 4pm. She called the doctor and he told her to put me on 
pills every 15 minutes and IV'ed another blood pressure medications every 1/2 
hour. Plus they gave me morphine and other pain meds for my headache. 
Well, this went on untill 9 pm. My b.p. finally lowered. An emergency room doc 
showed up at 9:30pm. [5.5 hours later] He asked, Why did I think I needed a 
doctor. I told him about AD and sked him if he ever treated it before. He said 
yes and that is all i remember because i was so drugged up.
  So, around 10pm, i felt funny and i asked the nurse to check my bp. She did 
and it was 60 over 30. So, they put me on drugs to raise my bp. Around 2:30am, 
my bp was around normal. They never removed the packing until sometime after 
this. Then my bp stayed normal and I went home at 11am.
   
  There is alot more to the story that blows me away on how healthcare 
officials do not listen to their patients and they think they know it all. I 
had the systoms and causes in black and white. Wow! 
   
  Please let me know of any good website links to info about AD. I am making it 
a mission that this does not happen to anyone else.
   
  Derrick Winegardner
  c/5 
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: RONALD L PRACHT 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:36 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals
  

  Hey yall,
   
  I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put 
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on 
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people 
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It 
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With the 
grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever believes 
anything I say when I go in the hospital. 
   
  Ron c7 St Louis 

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[QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals

2007-02-07 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
Hey yall,
   
  I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put 
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on 
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people 
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It 
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With the 
grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever believes 
anything I say when I go in the hospital. 
   
  Ron c7 St Louis 


Re: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals

2007-02-07 Thread B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\)
So far I have been through six colonoscopies and they haven't had to put me 
under for any of them.  I had a sensation in my bowels, but it isn't extreme 
enough to cause me to many problems.  I don't know what it would be like to go 
under knowing that my blood pressure was spiking just as they were about to put 
me under.  It must have been petrifying.  Thankfully everything turned out okay 
for you.
Quadius

RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey yall,
   
  I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put 
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on 
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people 
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It 
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With the 
grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever believes 
anything I say when I go in the hospital. 
   
  Ron c7 St Louis 


 
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[QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals

2007-02-07 Thread wheelchair
 
Thanks for that info Ron.  But now you know that should be covered in  the 
pre-op meeting with your doctor and doctors about your precondition and have  
it 
written into the doctor's report.  The surgical team, must read the  pre-op 
report before they begin to prep you.  Ask LindaF, if I'm  correct.
W
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:37:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hey yall,
 
I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they  put 
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up  on 
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people  
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It  
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With the  
grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever  
believes anything I say when I go in the hospital. 
 
Ron c7 St Louis 



 


Re: [QUAD-L] Quads and Hospitals

2007-02-07 Thread Dan Tessiatore
If you can, go to a teaching hospital where they have experience with SCI.  Or 
were you at a teaching hospital?  You really have to advocate for your self 
when getting medical treatment even if you are not disabled.  Hope everyone is 
more informed and things go better next time.  Dan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for that info Ron.  But now you know 
that should be covered in the pre-op meeting with your doctor and doctors about 
your precondition and have it written into the doctor's report.  The surgical 
team, must read the pre-op report before they begin to prep you.  Ask LindaF, 
if I'm correct.
  W
   
   
   
   
   
  In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:37:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Hey yall,
   
  I was in the hospital getting my colonoscopy 2 years ago and the iv they put 
in me caused me to go into dysreflexia. I watched my blood pressure go up on 
the machine right b4 my eyes. I was scared as hell and neither the people 
prepping me for the colonoscopy or my mother believed anything was wrong. It 
was a very scary momment for me because they were putting me asleep. With the 
grace of god I made it through, but Im kinda bitter because noone ever believes 
anything I say when I go in the hospital. 
   
  Ron c7 St Louis