[quagga-dev 15774] Re: Quagga project governance

Le 29 juin 2016 00:24, "Vincent JARDIN" a écrit : > > > > Let us move forward and not continue to be distracted by finger pointing. We all like to see progress. > > > > Right now, the only think that cares is this drain of patchwork and to get the ff round 8 into the

[quagga-dev 15773] Re: Quagga project governance

> Let us move forward and not continue to be distracted by finger pointing. We all like to see progress. > Right now, the only think that cares is this drain of patchwork and to get the ff round 8 into the head. I saw this morning LOT of patchwork's entries that are queued. So I guess that we are

[quagga-dev 15772] Re: Quagga project governance

On 6/28/2016 7:49 AM, Paul Jakma wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Paul Jakma wrote: What is unclear - for a contributor - at the moment? Oh, and that wasn't meant to be a rhetorical question. One of Lou's emails summarized a few points : 1. no ability to predict when the next release

[quagga-dev 15771] Re: [PATCH 01/10] *: get rid of "MTYPE 0"

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Paul Jakma wrote: Hello Paul, > That's already in the r8 queue. Seems it was resent. The previous one, set to > queued already: FYI, there are 2 series of patches related to memtypes, - 1822 till 1831, all except 1829 is acked by Donald. -

[quagga-dev 15770] Re: Quagga project governance

I think our recollections of what happened appears to be very different. I've stated publicly what my position is and would appreciate you to stop continuing to misrepresent my position. donald On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Paul Jakma wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Donald

[quagga-dev 15769] Re: *: get rid of "MTYPE 0" + ff/8 upstream merges

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Vincent JARDIN wrote: it is a great information and a nice drain of patchwork. I do see a: 2012-09-12 patch being applied :D Yes, I went through it from page 1. I didn't grab /everything/ for various reasons, but once this is done patchwork should look a /lot/

[quagga-dev 15767] Re: *: get rid of "MTYPE 0" + ff/8 upstream merges

http://patchwork.quagga.net/bundle/paul/round-8/ it is a great information and a nice drain of patchwork. I do see a: 2012-09-12 patch being applied :D Just to confirm, does it mean that anything from Paul's round-8 bundle: http://patchwork.quagga.net/bundle/paul/round-8/ do show up

[quagga-dev 15768] Re: Quagga project governance

Le 28/06/2016 16:03, Lou Berger a écrit : On 06/28/2016 09:54 AM, Donald Sharp wrote: > I >won't be paying full attention to any review comments because I will >be on vacation the 1-10 of July, but hope to resolve all issues upon >getting back in a timely manner. Being forever the optimist -

[quagga-dev 15766] Re: Dispute resolution (was: Quagga project governance)

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Lou Berger wrote: Do you really think that majority voting of *maintainers* is unreasonable? From my email to you yesterday: [that can mean going with majority opinion usually, but still respecting people when there's something they really don't get on with -

[quagga-dev 15765] Re: Quagga project governance

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Donald Sharp wrote: I would like to have the ability to have dispute resolution handled in a timely fashion. It should be measured in weeks not months. They were handled plenty quickly, you just didn't like the answers. regards, -- Paul Jakma | p...@jakma.org | @pjakma

[quagga-dev 15764] Re: [PATCH 01/10] *: get rid of "MTYPE 0"

Hi Philippe, That's already in the r8 queue. Seems it was resent. The previous one, set to queued already: http://patchwork.quagga.net/patch/1822/ so 1839 can be set to dupe. (And I just did). Also, this may help: http://patchwork.quagga.net/bundle/paul/round-8/ regards, Paul On

[quagga-dev 15763] Re: Quagga project governance

I think this is a succinct conveyance of my concerns. I'd like to add one more: I would like to have the ability to have dispute resolution handled in a timely fashion. It should be measured in weeks not months. donald On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >

[quagga-dev 15762] quagga / quagga-capnproto / push to upstream

Hi David, Christian, About the quagga work done on https://git.netdef.org/scm/osr/quagga-capnproto.git, branch capnproto. It contains interesting commits related to L3VPN and Capnproto. FYI, I am still reviewing and rebasing your series; within few days I should be able to propose a serie that

[quagga-dev 15761] Re: [PATCH 01/10] *: get rid of "MTYPE 0"

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:00 AM, David Lamparter wrote: Hi David, > Signed-off-by: David Lamparter > Acked-by: Vincent JARDIN > Acked-by: Donald Sharp About

[quagga-dev 15760] Re: Quagga project governance

On 06/28/2016 09:54 AM, Donald Sharp wrote: > I > won't be paying full attention to any review comments because I will > be on vacation the 1-10 of July, but hope to resolve all issues upon > getting back in a timely manner. Being forever the optimist - we'll plan/hope to have all issues

[quagga-dev 15759] Re: Quagga project governance

Lou - It works for me. I believe we've resolved all current comments that were placed into the document. I'd like to hear feedback from everyone on this new version of the document. https://docs.google.com/document/d/19DZcT0cJUSYxVIFenHvGFhLLUmLTRFHuMNZcI7aUNGA/edit?usp=sharing In light of

[quagga-dev 15758] Re: [PATCH ] bgpd: Add new configuration cli for graceful restart.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Paul Jakma wrote: > In > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/quagga.git/log/?h=volatile/patch-tracking/8/proposed/ff > You can see the refs for what I have so far for round-8: > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/quagga.git/refs/ Great and thanks

[quagga-dev 15757] Dispute resolution (was: Quagga project governance)

[Separating threads - here] Paul, On 6/28/2016 9:02 AM, Paul Jakma wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Paul Jakma wrote: > >> That's what has driven us to here. I simply can not fail to mention >> the facts of this, because this is the _prime point of disagreement_ >> between us. > And I

[quagga-dev 15756] Re: Quagga project governance

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Paul Jakma wrote: - Doing it in a batched way, so there's X time (e.g. 1 or 2 weeks) of the boring, tedious, annoying patch-herding work; then Y time (maybe also 1 to 2 weeks) of 'quiet' time for the integrator where /others/ do work (reviews) and the integrator can

[quagga-dev 15755] Re: Quagga project governance

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Paul Jakma wrote: What is unclear - for a contributor - at the moment? Oh, and that wasn't meant to be a rhetorical question. Also, you have to distinguish between the cases of things working as they were meant to work and otherwise. regards, -- Paul Jakma |

[quagga-dev 15754] Re: Quagga project governance

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Lou Berger wrote: Paul, So you'll discuss details once proposed as a patch to HACKING.md? If people take the time to understand why we are where we are today, identify problems as specifically as possible, and propose solutions to that, then I'm all ears. regards, --

[quagga-dev 15752] Re: Quagga project governance

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, Lou Berger wrote: Being unwilling to directly comment on, or contribute to a community developed document seems a bit unreasonable to me. One existed. Written by a number of people over the years. It's not perfect, but what is? It starts with: "This is a living

[quagga-dev 15751] Re: Quagga project governance

On Mon, 27 Jun 2016, Jafar Al-Gharaibeh wrote: I was hoping you were singled out Lou! so that the wider community feels better that they are not the target audience! ;) Well, you've drawn the fire now. ;) We keep rinsing and repeating, we should move to the drying phase. ;) Well, we

[quagga-dev 15750] Re: Quagga project governance

Paul, On June 28, 2016 6:02:28 AM Paul Jakma wrote: ... I don't think I am being that unreasonable. Being unwilling to directly comment on, or contribute to a community developed document seems a bit unreasonable to me. ... Funnily enough, when I explain the prime

[quagga-dev 15748] Re: Quagga project governance

On Mon, 27 Jun 2016, Martin Winter wrote: You really seem to be unwilling to move from your positions and rather break the community in 2 (or more parts). Is that really corerct? The prime difference is ignoring comments and voting through backlogs - I gather not everyone on the 'document'

[quagga-dev 15747] Re: Quagga project governance

On Mon, 27 Jun 2016, Martin Winter wrote: The difference is between a automated ‘proposed’ tree (no manual ACK) What does this 'Ack' buy? It's just over 1 bit of information - except that the lack of an Ack can mean either: - People read it but didn't Ack it, cause * Didn't really like

[quagga-dev 15746] bgp addpath feature

Hello Donald, I saw that on the public branch of quagga from cumulus ( https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/quagga.git, branch mpls), there is a feature named addpath. This feature is very interesting for multipath, since it permits sending multiple path entries for the same prefix in BGP updates.

[quagga-dev 15745] Re: [PATCH] bgpd: Squash spurious "unknown afi" log messages

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Paul Jakma wrote: Hi Paul, > Maybe not yet, but it will be. Thanks, I see it is queued (http://patchwork.quagga.net/patch/1921/), but it is not applied. Where is it? regards, ___ Quagga-dev mailing

[quagga-dev 15744] Re: [PATCH ] bgpd: Add new configuration cli for graceful restart.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Philippe Guibert wrote: Hello, > Could someone make a review of this patch ? I see on patchwork it is queued: where is it queued? http://patchwork.quagga.net/patch/1943/ Regards, Philippe