Re: [qubes-users] Re: Battery Life Qubes 3.2 rc2

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-08-01 18:36, Peter M wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 6:29:27 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>> Is anyone else noticing very significant increases in battery life with
>> 3.2 as opposed to 3.1?
>> 
>> On 3.1 I was lucky to get 1h 30 min while with 3.2 I am easily getting 3 
>> hours. I have an Nvidia Quadro graphics card so I am guessing some 
>> improvement in the nouveau driver is helping.
>> 
>> Anyone else want to share their battery life experiences?
> 
> 
> Ok I can confirm a very significant improvement in power usage.
> 
> In 3.1 with minimal activity (nothing but basic VM open) the usage is
> about 24W. Opening a few VM's (personal, work, etc) brings that up to about
> 28.5W.
> 
> IN 3.2 with minimal activity (nothing but basic VM open) the usage is
> about 13.1W. Opening a few VM's (personal, work, etc) brings that up to
> about 16.3W.
> 
> There is also an improvement in temperature. My laptop ran pretty warm in
> 3.1 while in 3.2 it runs cool. Going to dig into it more.
> 
> My setup is Nvidia Quadro M2000M Intel Xeon M1505 16Gb Ram
> 
> Given this is new hardware my guess is significant driver updates is the 
> cause.
> 

Very nice! :)

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[qubes-users] Re: Battery Life Qubes 3.2 rc2

2016-08-01 Thread Peter M
On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 6:29:27 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
> Is anyone else noticing very significant increases in battery life with 3.2 
> as opposed to 3.1?
> 
> On 3.1 I was lucky to get 1h 30 min while with 3.2 I am easily getting 3 
> hours. 
> I have an Nvidia Quadro graphics card so I am guessing some improvement in 
> the nouveau driver is helping.
> 
> Anyone else want to share their battery life experiences?


Ok I can confirm a very significant improvement in power usage.

In 3.1 with minimal activity (nothing but basic VM open) the usage is about 
24W. Opening a few VM's (personal, work, etc) brings that up to about 28.5W.

IN 3.2 with minimal activity (nothing but basic VM open) the usage is about 
13.1W. Opening a few VM's (personal, work, etc) brings that up to about 16.3W.

There is also an improvement in temperature. My laptop ran pretty warm in 3.1 
while in 3.2 it runs cool. Going to dig into it more. 

My setup is 
Nvidia Quadro M2000M
Intel Xeon M1505
16Gb Ram

Given this is new hardware my guess is significant driver updates is the cause.

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Re: [qubes-users] Different version usr/src and kernel - Installink module aziokdb

2016-08-01 Thread Facundo Curti
El 31/7/2016 9:35 p. m., "Facundo Curti"  escribió:
>
> Hi there. I'm trying to install a kernel module for my keyboard. But I'm
having troubles when I have to install it...
>
> I have a diferent version on /usr/src that the kernel.
>
> ls /usr/src/kernels:
> 4.4.14-11.pvops.qubes.x86_64
>
> ls /boot:
> xen-4.6.1.gz
> symvers-4.4.12-9.pvops.qubes.x86_64.gz
> initramfs-4.4.12-9.pvops.qubes.x86_64.img
> vmlinuz-4.4.14-9.pvops.qubes.x86_64
>
> ls -l /lib/modules/4.4.12-9.pvops.qubes.x86_64/
> build -> /usr/src/kernels/4.4.12-9.pvops.qubes.x86_64
>
> When I try to compile aziokdb module:
>
> make:
> error /lib/modules/4.4.12-9.pvops.qubes.x86_64/build does not exist
>
>
> I didn't put the entire output because it is from dom0 and I cant
copy-paste as easy than with another vm. I made it manually.
>
> Some idea how can I fix this? :/ I'ts possible to reinstall kernel
without compiling it manually? It would solve it? :P
>
> Thx
>
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Someone? :S

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Re: [qubes-users] i3 windows manager copying and pasting

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-08-01 16:26, fmu...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've installed i3 and like it. I'm using it with the i3-settings-qubes. 
> However crtl-shift-c crtl-shift-v doesn't work. Anyone know if I have to
> add a keybinding? Something else?
> 
> Thanks, Francisco
> 

I've never used i3, but if you want to reassign those key bindings, they can
be reassigned in /etc/qubes/guid.conf (in dom0).

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Unmounting USB Devices at VM shutdown

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-08-01 12:40, tom...@gmail.com wrote:
>> One other thing, the gui in qubes seems to always develop 'artifacts' on
>> the screen, such as horizontal lines of 'static'.
> I never got this issue.
> 

That one is tracked here:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1028

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Re: [qubes-users] Battery Life Qubes 3.2 rc2

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-08-01 09:38, Peter M wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 4:05:51 AM UTC-6, Andrew David Wong wrote: On 
> 2016-07-31 17:29, Peter M wrote:
 Is anyone else noticing very significant increases in battery life 
 with 3.2 as opposed to 3.1?
 
 On 3.1 I was lucky to get 1h 30 min while with 3.2 I am easily
 getting 3 hours. I have an Nvidia Quadro graphics card so I am
 guessing some improvement in the nouveau driver is helping.
 
 Anyone else want to share their battery life experiences?
 
> 
> Sounds like good news. I've found powertop very handy for monitoring power
>  usage. Perhaps you could use it to see how many watts you're pulling
> before and after?
> 
> 
> 
> Good idea. I am assuming that I need to install PowerTop in dom0. What is
> the safest way to do this?
> 

You can install it in the usual way:

$ sudo qubes-dom0-update powertop

Note, of course, that the usual warnings apply about installing and running
programs in dom0. IMHO, installing and running powertop from the Fedora repo
is a minimal, acceptable risk, but of course it's up to you.

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Re: [qubes-users] Unable to get right X display for kali on HVM

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-08-01 06:58, NewbieG wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I'm running Qubes OS 3.1 and I'm trying to have a Kali VM (2016.1).
> 
> I've tried both methods suggested in:
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/pentesting/kali/
> 
> First one, works ok if you run kali from DVD without installing it. If I
> try to install it, login window flickers and once logged on, the desktop
> shows up 'misplaced' (see attach).
> 
> Second one, as someone already pointed out in the list, introduces
> conflicts between X packages from kali and X packages from the debian-9
> template.
> 
> Any help would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 

Thanks for the report. I've added your comments to the issue we have for
tracking Kali documentation:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1981

Jeremias (CCed) wrote most of the existing Kali documentation, so he might
have some ideas.

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[qubes-users] i3 windows manager copying and pasting

2016-08-01 Thread fmuniz
Hi,

I've installed i3 and like it. I'm using it with the i3-settings-qubes. However 
crtl-shift-c crtl-shift-v doesn't work. Anyone know if I have to add a 
keybinding? Something else?

Thanks,
Francisco

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[qubes-users] Re: What do you think about the idea of a FileVM?

2016-08-01 Thread fmuniz
On Monday, 1 August 2016 18:46:44 UTC-4, Andrew "Arthur" Summers  wrote:
> Does Xen have a native import/export format? I'm WAY more familiar with 
> VMware offerings (which handle loads of formats), but if there's a way to add 
> OVA import to Qubes down the road, I'd be in love. Heck, if there's an add-on 
> or a command to run from Dom0 that I could use now, I'm down.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 5:43 PM  wrote:
> On Friday, 29 July 2016 20:12:45 UTC-4, arthur@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
> > I agree with the idea of having an option for a storage VM, but my 
> > agreement goes a little deeper (and forks a bit). I know that the primary 
> > goal of Qubes is security, but there are a lot of different use cases for 
> > it. I use it because I like the compartmentalization provided by VMs. 
> > Security is almost a secondary for me - I wanted a bare-metal client 
> > hypervisor. Since XenClient no longer exists and no other offerings are 
> > well maintained, I landed on Qubes. For my purposes, sharing storage would 
> > be great, but baking it in DOES defeat the primary goals of the project.
> 
> >
> 
> > Personally, I'm a huge fan of Turnkey Linux (http://turnkeylinux.org), and 
> > I use their stuff regularly to stand up infrastructure components or for 
> > testing. They have a fileserver VM, and it's pretty beautiful. Actually, 
> > all of their stuff is pretty beautiful. However, unless I missed something, 
> > I don't see an easy way to import an OVA/VMDK into Qubes. If that existed, 
> > I'd be happier than a dog with eight legs (yes, I said that). This would 
> > solve a lot of use cases, simplify the creation of third party HVMs, and 
> > still maintain the goals of the project.
> 
> >
> 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know about OVAs, but I imported a Virtualbox VM. If you search for 
> virtualbox you'll find the post with the procedure. Maybe this link will 
> work: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/YQyRSoRQWCU

I haven't tested this. But it seems you just untar the OVA and then convert the 
disk with
qemu-img -S 4k -f vmdk -O raw image.vdi image.raw

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[qubes-users] Re: What do you think about the idea of a FileVM?

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew "Arthur" Summers
Does Xen have a native import/export format? I'm WAY more familiar with
VMware offerings (which handle loads of formats), but if there's a way to
add OVA import to Qubes down the road, I'd be in love. Heck, if there's an
add-on or a command to run from Dom0 that I could use now, I'm down.

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 5:43 PM  wrote:

> On Friday, 29 July 2016 20:12:45 UTC-4, arthur@gmail.com  wrote:
> > I agree with the idea of having an option for a storage VM, but my
> agreement goes a little deeper (and forks a bit). I know that the primary
> goal of Qubes is security, but there are a lot of different use cases for
> it. I use it because I like the compartmentalization provided by VMs.
> Security is almost a secondary for me - I wanted a bare-metal client
> hypervisor. Since XenClient no longer exists and no other offerings are
> well maintained, I landed on Qubes. For my purposes, sharing storage would
> be great, but baking it in DOES defeat the primary goals of the project.
> >
> > Personally, I'm a huge fan of Turnkey Linux (http://turnkeylinux.org),
> and I use their stuff regularly to stand up infrastructure components or
> for testing. They have a fileserver VM, and it's pretty beautiful.
> Actually, all of their stuff is pretty beautiful. However, unless I missed
> something, I don't see an easy way to import an OVA/VMDK into Qubes. If
> that existed, I'd be happier than a dog with eight legs (yes, I said that).
> This would solve a lot of use cases, simplify the creation of third party
> HVMs, and still maintain the goals of the project.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> I don't know about OVAs, but I imported a Virtualbox VM. If you search for
> virtualbox you'll find the post with the procedure. Maybe this link will
> work: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/YQyRSoRQWCU

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[qubes-users] Re: What do you think about the idea of a FileVM?

2016-08-01 Thread fmuniz
On Friday, 29 July 2016 20:12:45 UTC-4, arthur@gmail.com  wrote:
> I agree with the idea of having an option for a storage VM, but my agreement 
> goes a little deeper (and forks a bit). I know that the primary goal of Qubes 
> is security, but there are a lot of different use cases for it. I use it 
> because I like the compartmentalization provided by VMs. Security is almost a 
> secondary for me - I wanted a bare-metal client hypervisor. Since XenClient 
> no longer exists and no other offerings are well maintained, I landed on 
> Qubes. For my purposes, sharing storage would be great, but baking it in DOES 
> defeat the primary goals of the project.
> 
> Personally, I'm a huge fan of Turnkey Linux (http://turnkeylinux.org), and I 
> use their stuff regularly to stand up infrastructure components or for 
> testing. They have a fileserver VM, and it's pretty beautiful. Actually, all 
> of their stuff is pretty beautiful. However, unless I missed something, I 
> don't see an easy way to import an OVA/VMDK into Qubes. If that existed, I'd 
> be happier than a dog with eight legs (yes, I said that). This would solve a 
> lot of use cases, simplify the creation of third party HVMs, and still 
> maintain the goals of the project.
> 
> Thoughts?

I don't know about OVAs, but I imported a Virtualbox VM. If you search for 
virtualbox you'll find the post with the procedure. Maybe this link will work: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/YQyRSoRQWCU

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[qubes-users] Re: Unmounting USB Devices at VM shutdown

2016-08-01 Thread tomhet
> If we shutdown a VM that has a USB storage device attached, the VM still 
> indicates the device being attached to the VM. But when you restart the VM, 
> the device is not accessible and can no longer be disconnected.

As far as I remember this should fix it: "sudo udevadm trigger --action=change"
If not - here's entire guide for your case: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/

 
> I've just had to reboot the entire system every time I forget to unmount 
> drives before shutting down a VM.
Here's a tread that discusses auto attach/detach/mount/umount on VM startup and 
shutdown (although not usb-specific): 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/qubes-users/RogG5rXG_Pw/9UWUTzl-QgAJ


> One other thing, the gui in qubes seems to always develop 'artifacts' on the 
> screen, such as horizontal lines of 'static'. 
I never got this issue.

regards,
  Tom

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes VM Manager crashes on USB un-plug, "Houston, we have a problem"

2016-08-01 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 11:13:46AM -0700, neilhard...@gmail.com wrote:
> Qubes VM Manager crashes on USB un-plug, "Houston, we have a problem"
> 
> I plug in a USB, then attack it as a block device to a VM.
> 
> Then I remove the USB device without first unmounting from within the VM
> 
> And then USB no longer works at all, and if I try to detach the block device, 
> the VM manager crashes and we get "Houston, we have a problem" error message.
> 
> Sure, I can go into the VM in the first place, unmount it, and then detach 
> the block device.
> 
> But sometimes I forget to do that
> 
> Other than restarting the entire OS... what can I do.?
> 
> It's really annoying having to restart the OS whenever I screw up and 
> accidentally remove it without unmounting first.

Take a look here:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/#what-if-i-removed-the-device-before-detaching-it-from-the-vm


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Re: [qubes-users] MicroSD assigned to dom0 and not to sys-usb

2016-08-01 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 07:35:26PM +, 468ezc+5r0fnwy87qeag via qubes-users 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My MicroSD while attached is assigned to dom0 and not sys-usb as is supposed. 
> Notwithstanding, USB devices are still assigned to sys-usb.
> 
> Is this the intended behavior? Doesn't this increases, in the same manner as 
> usb devices does, the surface attack in dom0?

Your (micro)SD card reader is probably not a USB device, but PCI device.
Yes, it's better to assign it to some VM - sys-usb is ok. You can do
this in VM settings - "Devices" tab.

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[qubes-users] MicroSD assigned to dom0 and not to sys-usb

2016-08-01 Thread 468ezc+5r0fnwy87qeag via qubes-users
Hi,

My MicroSD while attached is assigned to dom0 and not sys-usb as is supposed. 
Notwithstanding, USB devices are still assigned to sys-usb.

Is this the intended behavior? Doesn't this increases, in the same manner as 
usb devices does, the surface attack in dom0?






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[qubes-users] Re: SUCCESS: GPU passthrough on Qubes 3.1 (Xen 4.6.1) / Radeon 6950 / Win 7 & Win 8.1 (TUTORIAL + HCL)

2016-08-01 Thread tomhet
Hi Marcus,

I'm bit confused with this
> Edit /etc/default/grub and add following options (change the pci address if 
> needed)

Which version of Qubes is this? Aint 3.1 EFI-only?
And EFI version of kernel args are to be passed via /boot/efi/EFI/qubes 
(kernel=)?

regards,
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[qubes-users] Qubes VM Manager crashes on USB un-plug, "Houston, we have a problem"

2016-08-01 Thread neilhardley
Qubes VM Manager crashes on USB un-plug, "Houston, we have a problem"

I plug in a USB, then attack it as a block device to a VM.

Then I remove the USB device without first unmounting from within the VM

And then USB no longer works at all, and if I try to detach the block device, 
the VM manager crashes and we get "Houston, we have a problem" error message.

Sure, I can go into the VM in the first place, unmount it, and then detach the 
block device.

But sometimes I forget to do that

Other than restarting the entire OS... what can I do.?

It's really annoying having to restart the OS whenever I screw up and 
accidentally remove it without unmounting first.

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Re: [qubes-users] Moving old (customized) templates or start with fresh templates?Hi

2016-08-01 Thread donoban
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On 08/01/2016 06:33 PM, Achim Patzner wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 
> I just installed Qubes 3.2 rc2 on btrfs (thanks to Marek's good
> memory) and was wondering whether I should use my old 3.1 templates
> (with slight customizations like adding fish and joe) or use the
> new templates. Any "I could have told you's" or other warnings?
> 
> 
> 
> Achim
> 

If you have few customizations you should use the new. There is some
thread with some problems related to don't use the rpm installed
templates...
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[qubes-users] Re: usb 3.0

2016-08-01 Thread raahelps
On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 6:23:22 AM UTC-4, Nicola Schwendener wrote:
> Hello all,
> sorry if I bother you but I haven't understood if USB 3.0 (I've a lot of 
> external disks with usb 3.0) is supported or not. I want to migrate from my 
> actual windows 8.1 OS to Qubes (I've to do a Windows HVW for some 
> applications) but, the USB 3.0 should work correctly. 
> could you please help me?
> best regards
> Nick

Yes it works fine on my system and also with passthrough block devices.   Only 
issue I had was with usb 3.0 speeds enabled,   the motherboard routes all ports 
into only a single usb controller.  So I use a pci adapter for my kb,  and 
use the qubes mouse proxy in the usbvm.

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[qubes-users] Re: Upgrading from Qubes 3.1 to 3.2 fail

2016-08-01 Thread raahelps
On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 7:53:30 AM UTC-4, donoban wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tried to do the experimental process for upgrading to Qubes 3.2. I 
> followed the steps from https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/upgrade-to-r3.2/
> 
> 
> All went fine until I rebooted the system (step 7). After rebooting I 
> had a lot of packages for update on dom0 (more than 1000), and when I 
> tried to update them it failed because some dependency problems (I 
> remember some perl packages but maybe there were more packages with 
> problems).
> 
> I didn't extract logs because I needed the computer working ASAP so I 
> installed it from scratch and restored my backup but I have another 
> computer on 3.1 which I would like to upgrade to 3.2 and I could try to 
> do the process again and extract useful information.
> 
> I had all my VM's with Debian template, I had indeed fedora template 
> removed, maybe this could affect to the upgrade process.
> 
> Some comments after fresh install 3.2:
> 
> - Debian and Whonix-GW seems up to date after install, while fedora-23 
> and Whonix-WS needed updates. I don't know why...
> 
> - I have sys-usb working fine but only with Fedora template, could I 
> migrate it to Debian?
> 
> Well, it looks very nice. Thanks for your work guys.
> 
> Regards.

I had the same exact issue with the experimental upgrade.  I also ended up just 
doing a fresh install.

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Re: [qubes-users] Battery Life Qubes 3.2 rc2

2016-08-01 Thread Peter M
On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 4:05:51 AM UTC-6, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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> On 2016-07-31 17:29, Peter M wrote:
> > Is anyone else noticing very significant increases in battery life with
> > 3.2 as opposed to 3.1?
> > 
> > On 3.1 I was lucky to get 1h 30 min while with 3.2 I am easily getting 3 
> > hours. I have an Nvidia Quadro graphics card so I am guessing some 
> > improvement in the nouveau driver is helping.
> > 
> > Anyone else want to share their battery life experiences?
> > 
> 
> Sounds like good news. I've found powertop very handy for monitoring power
> usage. Perhaps you could use it to see how many watts you're pulling before
> and after?
> 
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Good idea.
I am assuming that I need to install PowerTop in dom0. What is the safest way 
to do this?

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Re: [qubes-users] Install kde/plasma desktop in qubes 3.2rc2

2016-08-01 Thread Adrian Rocha
El lunes, 1 de agosto de 2016, 4:08:35 (UTC-6), Andrew David Wong escribió:
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> On 2016-07-31 17:53, Adrian Rocha wrote:
> > El domingo, 31 de julio de 2016, 17:53:01 (UTC-6), Marek 
> > Marczykowski-Górecki escribió: On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 04:40:16PM -0700, 
> > Andrew David Wong wrote:
>  On 2016-07-31 15:38, Adrian Rocha wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I installed 3.2rc2 from scratch and I can't choose the kde/plasma 
> > desktop not even as an optional software.
>  
>  This was announced with the release of R3.2-rc2:
>  
>  "Beginning with this release, we’ve officially switched from KDE to 
>  Xfce4, which is now the new default desktop environment in dom0."
> > 
> >> I remember this announcement, but, why don't maintain it in the ISO as 
> >> alternative?
> > 
> 
> Joanna explains the reasons for that here:
> 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2119

It's a pitty. I'm not agree, It's just my point of view becouse Xfce lacks many 
of the funcionality of KDE, and I don't consider these bugs as critical in 
KDE/Plasma 5. But it's just my opinion.

About the instalation from the repo, it was fine, I just have had to change the 
window theme as Marek described here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/qubes-users/Y_v1wcl05iM/choRg3TfCgAJ

Thanks

> 
>  
>  https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/07/28/ 
>  qubes-OS-3-2-rc2-has-been-released/
> > 
>  How can I install this desktop in this new release?
> > 
>  
>  Even though KDE was removed from the ISO, you should still be able
>  to install it from the repos. We don't have documentation for this
>  yet, but if the command matches Xfce, it should be:
>  
>  $ sudo qubes-dom0-update @kde-desktop-qubes
> > 
> >> Perfect, I'm installing.
> > 
> >> Many thanks
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, exactly.
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: [qubes-users] AEM with Linux 4.4 causes hard reboot (cont... Trying to resolve issue)

2016-08-01 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 10:05:24AM +0200, donoban wrote:
> 
> 
> On 07/31/2016 11:45 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> > On 2016-07-31 13:45, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> >> On 2016-07-31 13:42, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> >>> On 2016-07-31 13:38, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
>  On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:30:42PM -0700, Andrew David Wong
>  wrote:
> > On 2016-07-31 10:41, donoban wrote:
> >> Nice, this should be added to: 
> >> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/#tocAnchor-1-1-4
> >> 
> >> With some warning: "Caution! Enabling usb-vm with LUKS
> >> encryption and a USB keyboard could stop you from booting
> >> your system"
> >> 
> >> :)
> >> 
> > 
> > If a USB keyboard is detected, the installer does not allow
> > the option of creating a USB qube, so it should not be
> > possible for a user to accidentally get him- or herself
> > into this predicament.
> 
> Yes, but if some user is reading USB Qubes doc, it's very likely he
> will try to do a sys-usb himself.
> 
> 
> I have some problems related to sys-usb. I did the installation of
> Qubes 3.2 on my parents house with a Logitech keyboard. When I
> returned to my house, after two or three tries before discovering this
> thread, my Microsoft keyboard didn't work.
> 
> Fortunately, I have another Logitech keyboard here (also USB) and I
> could boot my system. I guess the problem was the initramfs, it was
> generated with the logitech keyboard connected so It doesn't load
> modules for Microsoft.
> 
> This could cause hilarious scenarios, you go with your cool ultra
> secure computer to show a friend how nice is Qubes and you end being
> unable to boot your computer. I think initramfs should include most
> keyboard drivers as possible...

If you like to modify hardware, it's good idea to disable host-only mode
in /etc/dracut.conf. This will include most of the drivers.

Otherwise, I think it's actually a feature to have as little as possible
drivers in initramfs, as sys-usb nor sys-net are running yet.

> After recreating the initramfs I could unlock my hard disk, but when I
> went to the login screen, the keyboard didn't work! And the mouse
> didn't work too! Well, I have a Dell monitor with USB ports. I have
> both keyboard and mouse connected directly to the monitor. I
> disconnected the keyboard from the monitor and connected it directly
> to the computer and I could login into my xfce session. Few seconds
> after login, the mouse started to work, I disconnected the keyboard
> from the computer and reconnected to the monitor and it worked fine.
> What could be happening? Is sys-usb supposed to wait for do something
> after login?

It may be that the input proxy tried to start too early - which would be
a bug in service dependencies. Check logs with `journalctl` in sys-usb,
search for lines related to udev and/or input-proxy.

Anyway, in such a case, simply reconnecting the device (even to the same
port) should fix the issue.

> Last problem (maybe should be posted in a new thread):
> 
> the main motivation for testing Qubes 3.2 for me was the USB
> passtrough because it would nice for me to connect a WiFi dongle or a
> Android smartphone with tethering.  After install it (on my parent's
> house), I tested the WiFi dongle. It was attached fine, but on the
> dest VM it complained about unexpected errors and suggested a cable
> problem.

USB passthrough is quite tricky and unfortunately some devices may not
work. We just use USBIP driver, which according to our tests behaves the
best from available options.
You may have better luck asking on linux-...@vger.kernel.org, for help
with USBIP driver. Include lsusb -v output for that device. If you
decide so, please cc me.

> With the Android tethering it worked fine.
> 
> But now, when I try to attach it to a VM it says:
> "ERROR: Device attach failed: Invalid speed recieved"

I guess that "Invalid speed received" is actually nothing received at
all. It's probably some problem at sys-usb side, check logs there,
including ~user/.xsession-errors.

> It also says when doing any qvm-usb command:
> "Invalid 3-7 device desc in VM 'sys-usb'"
>
> It's my Microsoft keyboard, but I think the error doesn't has relation
> with the other error.

That's interesting. Can you post output of:

qubesdb-multiread /qubes-usb-devices/3-7

in sys-usb?

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Re: [qubes-users] No sound with VoIP

2016-08-01 Thread Desobediente
It shall be noted that the OP is trying to get audio to work via PCI
passthrough.

Have you tried leaving the audio devices in dom0 (not assigning any to the
VM), then right clicking on the AppVM on Qubes Manager and hitting the
magic "microphone" button?

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Re: [qubes-users] Install kde/plasma desktop in qubes 3.2rc2

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-07-31 17:53, Adrian Rocha wrote:
> El domingo, 31 de julio de 2016, 17:53:01 (UTC-6), Marek 
> Marczykowski-Górecki escribió: On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 04:40:16PM -0700, 
> Andrew David Wong wrote:
 On 2016-07-31 15:38, Adrian Rocha wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I installed 3.2rc2 from scratch and I can't choose the kde/plasma 
> desktop not even as an optional software.
 
 This was announced with the release of R3.2-rc2:
 
 "Beginning with this release, we’ve officially switched from KDE to 
 Xfce4, which is now the new default desktop environment in dom0."
> 
>> I remember this announcement, but, why don't maintain it in the ISO as 
>> alternative?
> 

Joanna explains the reasons for that here:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2119

 
 https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/07/28/ 
 qubes-OS-3-2-rc2-has-been-released/
> 
 How can I install this desktop in this new release?
> 
 
 Even though KDE was removed from the ISO, you should still be able
 to install it from the repos. We don't have documentation for this
 yet, but if the command matches Xfce, it should be:
 
 $ sudo qubes-dom0-update @kde-desktop-qubes
> 
>> Perfect, I'm installing.
> 
>> Many thanks
> 
> 
> Yes, exactly.
> 
> 

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Re: [qubes-users] Battery Life Qubes 3.2 rc2

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-07-31 17:29, Peter M wrote:
> Is anyone else noticing very significant increases in battery life with
> 3.2 as opposed to 3.1?
> 
> On 3.1 I was lucky to get 1h 30 min while with 3.2 I am easily getting 3 
> hours. I have an Nvidia Quadro graphics card so I am guessing some 
> improvement in the nouveau driver is helping.
> 
> Anyone else want to share their battery life experiences?
> 

Sounds like good news. I've found powertop very handy for monitoring power
usage. Perhaps you could use it to see how many watts you're pulling before
and after?

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Re: [qubes-users] Yellow dot / guid crash in appvms

2016-08-01 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 09:19:05PM -0400, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 07/31/2016 04:32 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
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> > 
> > On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 04:19:50PM -0400, Chris Laprise wrote:
> > > ErrorHandler: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
> > >   Major opcode: 10 (X_UnmapWindow)
> > >   ResourceID:   0xe7
> > >   Failed serial number:  179
> > >   Current serial number: 179
> > > 
> > > The above error sometimes results when I start a debian 8 appvm (I'm not
> > > currently using fedora appvms so I don't know if the problem exists there
> > > too). My app window will not appear until I run some other command in the 
> > > vm
> > > (at which point the vm status dot turns green).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'll determine whether this error can be reproduced.
> > Looks like this issue:
> > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2085
> > 
> > You're using KDE, aren't you? ;)
> > 
> > - --
> 
> In dom0, yes. I do also happen to have kde installed in the template
> (completely forgot about that), but I do get this error when starting gtk
> apps.

It is related to KDE5 in dom0. I'm not sure details, but it looks like
it destroy windows of other applications instead of asking the
application to destroy its own window. I've observed it for tray icon
windows (yes, those icons are separate windows in terms of X11
protocol), but it may happen for other windows too.

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Re: [qubes-users] Configuring OpenDNS in Qubes

2016-08-01 Thread marc
> If I understand correctly, permanently changing /etc/resolv.conf in the
> ProxyVM to show:
> 
>  nameserver 208.67.222.222
>  nameserver 208.67.220.220
> 
> should achieve that in a standalone ProxyVM.

Thanks for your answer. I thought that changing /etc/resolv.conf by hand was 
not recommended because some other programs can overwrite it. Anyway, I tried 
it and changes in /etc/resolv.conf in my standalone ProxyVM are lost once I 
reboot...

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[qubes-users] Unable to set coherent dma mask: disabling DMA

2016-08-01 Thread donoban
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Hi

I noticed this messages on Qubes 3.2, I don't know if they also
appeared on Qubes 3.1.

parport_pc.956: Unable to set coherent dma mask: disabling DMA
parport_pc.888: Unable to set coherent dma mask: disabling DMA
parport_pc.632: Unable to set coherent dma mask: disabling DMA


Any idea?

Regards.
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Re: [qubes-users] AEM with Linux 4.4 causes hard reboot (cont... Trying to resolve issue)

2016-08-01 Thread donoban
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On 07/31/2016 11:45 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2016-07-31 13:45, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>> On 2016-07-31 13:42, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>>> On 2016-07-31 13:38, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:30:42PM -0700, Andrew David Wong
 wrote:
> On 2016-07-31 10:41, donoban wrote:
>> Nice, this should be added to: 
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/#tocAnchor-1-1-4
>> 
>> With some warning: "Caution! Enabling usb-vm with LUKS
>> encryption and a USB keyboard could stop you from booting
>> your system"
>> 
>> :)
>> 
> 
> If a USB keyboard is detected, the installer does not allow
> the option of creating a USB qube, so it should not be
> possible for a user to accidentally get him- or herself
> into this predicament.

Yes, but if some user is reading USB Qubes doc, it's very likely he
will try to do a sys-usb himself.


I have some problems related to sys-usb. I did the installation of
Qubes 3.2 on my parents house with a Logitech keyboard. When I
returned to my house, after two or three tries before discovering this
thread, my Microsoft keyboard didn't work.

Fortunately, I have another Logitech keyboard here (also USB) and I
could boot my system. I guess the problem was the initramfs, it was
generated with the logitech keyboard connected so It doesn't load
modules for Microsoft.

This could cause hilarious scenarios, you go with your cool ultra
secure computer to show a friend how nice is Qubes and you end being
unable to boot your computer. I think initramfs should include most
keyboard drivers as possible...

After recreating the initramfs I could unlock my hard disk, but when I
went to the login screen, the keyboard didn't work! And the mouse
didn't work too! Well, I have a Dell monitor with USB ports. I have
both keyboard and mouse connected directly to the monitor. I
disconnected the keyboard from the monitor and connected it directly
to the computer and I could login into my xfce session. Few seconds
after login, the mouse started to work, I disconnected the keyboard
from the computer and reconnected to the monitor and it worked fine.
What could be happening? Is sys-usb supposed to wait for do something
after login?

Last problem (maybe should be posted in a new thread):

the main motivation for testing Qubes 3.2 for me was the USB
passtrough because it would nice for me to connect a WiFi dongle or a
Android smartphone with tethering.  After install it (on my parent's
house), I tested the WiFi dongle. It was attached fine, but on the
dest VM it complained about unexpected errors and suggested a cable
problem. With the Android tethering it worked fine.

But now, when I try to attach it to a VM it says:
"ERROR: Device attach failed: Invalid speed recieved"

It also says when doing any qvm-usb command:
"Invalid 3-7 device desc in VM 'sys-usb'"

It's my Microsoft keyboard, but I think the error doesn't has relation
with the other error.


Any help is appreciated in advance, regards :)
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: AppVMs using ProxyVM having DNS problems some days

2016-08-01 Thread David Hobach



On 07/31/2016 10:05 AM, Markus Kilås wrote:

On 02/28/2016 04:13 PM, Markus Kilås wrote:

Hi,

I am experiencing an issue with DNS queries in my AppVMs in R3.0.

Sometimes after booting up, the AppVMS that are connected to
sys-firewall are unable to do DNS lookups:
user@untrusted ~]$ dig qubes-os.org
; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P3-RedHat-9.10.3-10.P3.fc23 <<>> qubes-os.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

The same command works in sys-firewall and netvm and any AppVM connected
directly to the netvm but not when going through sys-firewall. There are
no firewall rules added in the Qubes VM Manager and changing to allow
all network traffic for 5 minutes makes no difference.

Besides DNS lookups not working, the networking is working:
[user@untrusted ~]$ ping 104.25.119.5
PING 104.25.119.5 (104.25.119.5) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 104.25.119.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=31.4 ms

If I manually change the nameserver to the same as in sys-firewall the
resolving works also in the AppVM:

With IP from /etc/resolve.conf (sys-firewall):
[user@untrusted ~]$ dig @10.137.2.1 qubes-os.org
; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P3-RedHat-9.10.3-10.P3.fc23 <<>> @10.137.2.1 qubes-os.org
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

Instead with the netvm IP:
[user@untrusted ~]$ dig @10.137.5.1 qubes-os.org
; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P3-RedHat-9.10.3-10.P3.fc23 <<>> @10.137.5.1 qubes-os.org
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 5804
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;qubes-os.org.  IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
qubes-os.org.   127 IN  A   104.25.119.5
qubes-os.org.   127 IN  A   104.25.118.5

;; Query time: 11 msec
;; SERVER: 10.137.5.1#53(10.137.5.1)
;; WHEN: Sun Feb 28 16:03:09 CET 2016
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 73


Any idea what is going on here?



Very similar issues here...


I think I solved this now.

After re-installing with V3.2-rc2 and restoring my VMs (including my old
netvm) I still had this problem from time to time.

So what I did was to start use the new sys-net VM as NetVM instead of my
restored old netvm (I manually copied over the network manager config,
private keys, certificates etc from the old VM to not have to
reconfigure that).

Since then, so far I have not seen the issue again.


I had renamed the sys-firewall VM back to its old "firewallvm" name 
using Qubes manager after a fresh 3.1rc2 install (otherwise restoring my 
backup wouldn't have worked: "could not find referenced firewallvm" 
...). Maybe the sys-firewall name is hardcoded somewhere? I guess I'll 
test renaming it back again soon...


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