[qubes-users] salty whonix 14 -- problems.
My attempt to update whonix 13->14 failed misably. So I started the salt install "sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix". Just as a warning: it took 5 (five) hours, over night. But it succeeded. Now I rebooted sys-whonix via the whonix14-gw template and tor won't start. *I need some help, please.* In detail: ERROR: Tor Config Check Result: Your Tor config file contains at least one error. (Tor exit code: 1) Tor concise reports (below warns and errors must be fixed before you can use Tor): Nov 22 07:18:44.992 [warn] Directory /var/lib/tor/.tor cannot be read: Permission denied Nov 22 07:18:44.992 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Couldn't access private data directory "/var/lib/tor/.tor" Nov 22 07:18:44.992 [err] Reading config failed--see warnings above. Tor full reports: Nov 22 07:18:44.988 [notice] Tor 0.3.3.9 (git-ca1a436fa8e53a32) running on Linux with Libevent 2.0.21-stable, OpenSSL 1.1.0f, Zlib 1.2.8, Liblzma 5.2.2, and Libzstd 1.1.2. Nov 22 07:18:44.989 [notice] Tor can't help you if you use it wrong! Learn how to be safe at https://www.torproject.org/download/download#warning Nov 22 07:18:44.989 [notice] Read configuration file "/etc/tor/torrc". Nov 22 07:18:44.992 [warn] Directory /var/lib/tor/.tor cannot be read: Permission denied Nov 22 07:18:44.992 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Couldn't access private data directory "/var/lib/tor/.tor" Nov 22 07:18:44.992 [err] Reading config failed--see warnings above. The "permission denied" is very strange. First I checked: /var/lib/tor is owned by messagebus:sdwdate Could someone confirm this setting with his working whonix-14 install, please? Second, there is no Directory /var/lib/tor/.tor shall I create it? which permissions? Thank you, Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e956bd89-f44e-49e5-9cf2-cf5b7c834500%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How can I remove the GUI when booting qubes
Okay so i found the file i was looking in dom0. There no rghb quiet located in the file :( On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 11:51 PM 799 wrote: > Hello Pieter, > > Am Di., 20. Nov. 2018, 20:20 hat pieter lems > geschrieben: > >> [...] >> I was wondering how i can make it so that when qubes is starting i see >> the boot information (the output of the boot progress,im not sure how i >> should call it). I know that when u press a key it shows the output but i >> would like that it always shows. [...] >> > > You can change the default behaviour of the Boot loader: > > nano /etc/default/grub > > [...] > GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" > [...] > Edit the line which has: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=[...] rhgb quiet" > remove rhgb quiet. > > After this you need to write the new configuration to the Boot partition > with: > > sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg > > This will show the default messages when booting up. > > - O > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAK8vAnX8O59BWkJja%2B6FWpLZCAOiEVELirreSMOarzM5bnJtnA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How can I remove the GUI when booting qubes
Okay i was to quick saying it work since a relative of mine got it to work. He's not responding as of now so im going to ask it here. i dont have a grub file in /etc/default/ should it be there tho? Cheers! On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 12:56 AM pieter lems wrote: > Awesome, thanks for the response. This worked! > Thanks again! > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 11:51 PM 799 wrote: > >> Hello Pieter, >> >> Am Di., 20. Nov. 2018, 20:20 hat pieter lems >> geschrieben: >> >>> [...] >>> I was wondering how i can make it so that when qubes is starting i see >>> the boot information (the output of the boot progress,im not sure how i >>> should call it). I know that when u press a key it shows the output but i >>> would like that it always shows. [...] >>> >> >> You can change the default behaviour of the Boot loader: >> >> nano /etc/default/grub >> >> [...] >> GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" >> [...] >> Edit the line which has: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=[...] rhgb quiet" >> remove rhgb quiet. >> >> After this you need to write the new configuration to the Boot partition >> with: >> >> sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg >> >> This will show the default messages when booting up. >> >> - O >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAK8vAnWJDftUsNvXmVLb8Cs%3Dz7zz9WLZg5hS3vaiJ430SwFu4Q%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How can I remove the GUI when booting qubes
Awesome, thanks for the response. This worked! Thanks again! On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 11:51 PM 799 wrote: > Hello Pieter, > > Am Di., 20. Nov. 2018, 20:20 hat pieter lems > geschrieben: > >> [...] >> I was wondering how i can make it so that when qubes is starting i see >> the boot information (the output of the boot progress,im not sure how i >> should call it). I know that when u press a key it shows the output but i >> would like that it always shows. [...] >> > > You can change the default behaviour of the Boot loader: > > nano /etc/default/grub > > [...] > GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" > [...] > Edit the line which has: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=[...] rhgb quiet" > remove rhgb quiet. > > After this you need to write the new configuration to the Boot partition > with: > > sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg > > This will show the default messages when booting up. > > - O > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAK8vAnWb9cOjGLY2iWPt5X8ZqhhTF5O%2BWQhC9HYgrtfAsQLDSg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Qubes 3.2 i3 log in issue
I've been using Qubes 3.2 for less than two months after installing on my laptop. Today, I used terminal with apt-get install i3 and then after downloading it from the repository, typed 'i3', which it then changed the layout of the windows open to vertical. I shut down the laptop and attempted to log in and have received incorrect password, this happens regardless of xfce, i3, or i3 with log. I jumped the restart too soon, but not certain what to do to fix this mistake. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e4e40bbd-2fc2-4d17-aa14-ae91106e4ca2%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: TOR browser updates.
brendan.hoar wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 13:41 > I currently avoid dist-upgrade and stick with upgrade. > But YMMV. > > With that said, it's important to keep cloned copies of > all your templates a few update versions back...just in > case. Can be difficult to recover a botched upgrade once > sys-net won't work any more. :) Any particular reason? It has been the way I did updates/upgrades since Qubes 3.2 (I am using Qubes 4 now) and I can't recall any problems so far. I can't recall why I do it this way anymore either, it just became a habit. Thanks for your explanation, I did not know the details. And thanks @Patrick Schleizer for the new documentation page, it's much appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/30f.5bf53143%40qubes-os.info. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora-29-minimal :: Feedback / Using it as sys-Template
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, November 12, 2018 6:51 PM, 799 wrote: > did someone succeeded installing and using sys-vms (sys-usb|net|firewall) > based on the new fedora-29-minimal template from the testing repositories > (sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-itl-testing > fedora-29-minimal) with working network connectivity? When Fedora 29 was released I cloned my fedora-28-minima-net VM, that I use for sys-net, firewall and VPN VMs, and upgraded. Only sys-net is working with Fedora 29, for some reason neither the firewalls nor VPN VMs work. I haven't tried recently, nor have I tried with Qubes' fedora-29-minimal, I'm keeping fedora-28-minimal around for now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/l79mhzAUaYnoSoh_T9BRhczZ0TmXjCd7Jki-slkem0OK84kV2lrdHVJ1MLvvDbg85tQ0kd79YE-wolktKMByLQ%3D%3D%40fidelramos.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Access to template filesystem on Qubes 4
On 11/21/18 6:30 PM, Dominique St-Pierre Boucher wrote: Hello Qubes-users, I need to get access to a file on a template I created. I did some changes and I am unable to boot the template. How do I mount the filesystem in another VM to get access to the file? I presume you use Q4. I would try to use losetup -f to get a free loopdevice name and then losetup /dev/loopX /dev/qubes_dom0/YOURTEMPLATE-private or YOURTEMPLATE-root according to where the problem sits. Once it is looped, you can mount it or redirect it with the icon in the corner to some other template. Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d9512f70-1971-d3b6-7e3e-8e6d026d8376%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Access to template filesystem on Qubes 4
Hello Qubes-users, I need to get access to a file on a template I created. I did some changes and I am unable to boot the template. How do I mount the filesystem in another VM to get access to the file? Thanks Dominique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b5de09fb-346d-4a3f-b910-2f036433ddd6%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] fedora-minimal trouble
Hi I downloaded f-28-minimal to replace f26 for sys-net, sys-firewall
and sys-usb. I prepared two clones according to the doc.
- the NetworkManager won't start in f28-sys. I downgraded the VM
back to f26.
- the sys-firewall under f-28-minimal does not work (" ping 8.8.8.8
gives 'no route to host; "), even if the same command in sys-net does
work. So I had to bring that one bak to f26 as well. Any hints what I
may have messed?
thx, Bernhard
P.S: a side-problem: to shutdown sys-net or sys-firewall I modified the
networking in sys-whonix. Now that one fails as well! Is it correct to
have sys-whonix networking pointing to sys-firewall?
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/66606d45-a88f-8959-e7e2-5bb0a0b82df3%40web.de.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Possible to use WindowsVM as a NetVM?
I have a Windows-7-VM assigned as some LinuxVM's netVM. And I get the error below after some timeout when I try to start the appvm: ERROR: Start failed: internal error: libxenlight failed to create new domain 'appVM_name'. See /var/log/libvirt/libxl/libxl-driver.log for details. Here's the error message in the log: 2018-11-21 14:31:13.157+: libxl: libxl_device.c:1093:device_backend_callback: unable to add device with path /local/domain/38/backend/vif/40/0 2018-11-21 14:31:13.157+: libxl: libxl_create.c:1512:domcreate_attach_devices: unable to add nic devices 2018-11-21 14:31:23.181+: libxl: libxl_device.c:1093:device_backend_callback: unable to remove device with path /local/domain/38/backend/vif/40/0 2018-11-21 14:31:23.181+: libxl: libxl.c:1669:devices_destroy_cb: libxl_devices_destroy_failed_for_40 Is it just plain impossible for a WindowsVM to be a NetVM or I'm missing something? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1PE3f69ekxuDCM10Ht1EhAYscTPPfAadCUylYS8xAeC2m5bM_2RLP18lo49B-WLD-J4FOuZrpjzKhKTT98_MYtHYFDatko9lsLxi7CsEVFA%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Adding modules to initramfs
Hi, On 11/21/18 4:41 PM, mike wrote: Hi, I recently replaced the SSD drive in my laptop and the new one turned out to be using completely different technology (namely nvme as opposed to sata). It costed me a lot of fuss to make my system able to boot up from the new drive (ie. I did a fresh installation of Qubes just to realise it put the necessary nvme driver into initramfs, the lack of which on my original OS had been the cause of the issue). My question is: how can I add necessary drivers to initramfs (/boot/efi/EFI/qubes/initramfs-*)? For instance, referring to the scenario above, I would like to add nvme kernel modules to initramfs to be able to boot the system when I move it to the new drive. I don't have a UEFI setup to test but the following should work: mkinitrd --with=yourmodule /path/to/new/initramfs $(uname -r) (see `man mkinitrd` ; mkinitrd is actually frontend to dracut). IIRC, you can specify multiple modules with several `--with=` options. Backup your current initramfs if you use the same filename as you current initramfs (eg., "/initramfs-4.14.67-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64.img"). Or alternatively, use a different filename and tweak the config at boot time in grub when testing, and then overwrite the old initramfs with the new one once everything works as expected. Ivan Thanks, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/46f145ea-f2d6-1f1f-72c7-91282917ebdc%40maa.bz. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Change update Template from sys-whonix to sys-whonix-New
Thank you Ahmed that worked greatreally appreciate the help!! Unman as always thank you... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fca39248-3e5a-4875-a927-7b9c67e8d75b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Adding modules to initramfs
Hi, I recently replaced the SSD drive in my laptop and the new one turned out to be using completely different technology (namely nvme as opposed to sata). It costed me a lot of fuss to make my system able to boot up from the new drive (ie. I did a fresh installation of Qubes just to realise it put the necessary nvme driver into initramfs, the lack of which on my original OS had been the cause of the issue). My question is: how can I add necessary drivers to initramfs (/boot/efi/EFI/qubes/initramfs-*)? For instance, referring to the scenario above, I would like to add nvme kernel modules to initramfs to be able to boot the system when I move it to the new drive. Thanks, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/40f22329-94c3-4dcf-843f-64434b5f9620%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Change update Template from sys-whonix to sys-whonix-New
Den ons. 21. nov. 2018 kl. 15.02 skrev <22...@tutamail.com>: > At the risk of revealing my skills could I ask how to do that more > specifically? > > In dom0 terminal: > sudo > then what? > > Thank you for any one willing to share the basicseditting a file comes > up a lot and don't know how to do it. > sudo nano /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy fix the line like unman said, then press Ctrl+x to save and exit the file (you will be prompted). Nano is the editor in this case. If you want to use something else (I don't actually know what is available in dom0 when it comes to editors), you can just type sudo and then the file you want to edit. Hope this helps you :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CA%2B3%2BOvjh924Av2B%2Bbxpzf2X%3Djy2j8vcsv87gvGbf9o_cncBxLg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Reinstall Qubes-Whonix TemplateVMs documentation revamped
Thank you Patrick! Really appreciate the work you do... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ae43c1c4-3bef-42a7-a19e-5ce906e8ad08%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Change update Template from sys-whonix to sys-whonix-New
At the risk of revealing my skills could I ask how to do that more specifically? In dom0 terminal: sudo then what? Thank you for any one willing to share the basicseditting a file comes up a lot and don't know how to do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b9f53b22-09b2-4789-9802-c2ce3cfbebe0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Custom dom0 wallpaper (a kind of guide)
I am not knowledgeable enough to say anything about the security of your method. If you wish to use that procedure, you could note that forcing the window to go fullscreen with Alt+F11 before taking the snapshot would get rid of the last three passages, though. Regards, L. G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/cc3cf25a-c6dc-46c0-b798-d0020b29f8fb%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [qubes-devel] Where does Qubes-UX fit in?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, at 02:20, Sven Semmler wrote: > > On 11/20/18 1:30 PM, Doesnt Work wrote: > > I want to know weather enduring the steep learning curve of a new > > OS, or waiting for a more UX-focused version 4.1? > > I asked myself the same question, but then just couldn't wait to use R4. > Now I am glad to have made the switch and must say the learning curve > was not steep at all. There are only a handful of commands which will > become second nature in no time: > I think the challenge and point of this topic is to identify what is lacking in the GUI, so that (among other things) all those mentioned commands get their intuitive (right-click?) counterparts in the GUI. (Which parts of their command-line output is NOT accessible from the GUI?) -- Regards, Teqleez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1542799487.2962114.1584292800.00CA93EC%40webmail.messagingengine.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] updating tor browser in whonix-ws dispvms
J.M. Porup: > Is anyone else using whonix-ws based dispvms? > > Until recently, tor browser received updates via whonix repos. For some > reason that seems to have stopped. > > The problem is that every time I open a new whonix-ws based dispvm, I'm > prompted to download a new version of TBB. Doing so a dozen times a day > or more gets a bit tedious. > > Per Whonix docs, I've tried running update-torbrowser in the templatevm, > but the command line output tells me not to bother, because the download > will be in /home and won't propagate to dispvms. > > I've taken a close look at Qubes and Whonix docs, but nothing is jumping > out at me as a possible solution. Maybe I'm missing something. > > Any ideas? > > thanks > jmp > > > Dedicated wiki page on Tor Browser update in Qubes-Whonix was recently created: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Tor_Browser -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/159b-57c2-5b80-6499-ea0d3208f13a%40whonix.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] touchpad locks into scrollmode
I have a brand-new Q4 install that has someimes touchpad locked into scrollmode (no mouse function anymore). Here is /proc/bus/inout/devices I: Bus=0018 Vendor=044e Product=120a Version=0100 N: Name="DELL081B:00 044E:120A Touchpad" P: Phys=i2c-DELL081B:00 S: Sysfs=/devices/pci:00/:00:15.1/i2c_designware.1/i2c-6/i2c-DELL081B:00/0018:044E:120A.0001/input/input15 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse0 event14 B: PROP=1 B: EV=b B: KEY=e520 3 0 0 0 0 B: ABS=2608003 Did you have simlar problems? Is there a way to "relaunch" the device by a keyboard hotkey when this happens? Thank you, Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/18c4d599-0e6d-f6b3-e06e-f067b27e321b%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
