Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2019-11-04 6:05 AM, Anac wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I
> tried several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't
> fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it
> possible to delete some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did
> I catch a [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version?
>
> Cheers, Anac
>

Please see the discussion on this issue:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5367

Basically, making this release small enough to fit on a DVD would have
required too many other sacrifices. In the end, we decided that this
was the least bad option.

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[qubes-users] Migrating Physical Machines (Windows 10 & Opensuse)

[rathol obcheek]

Dear all, after installing Qubes 3.2.1 on a laptop (HP 255 G5), I want to 
migrate the Windows system previously installed on there. Furthermore, 
there is an Opensuse (Leap 15.1) installed on a second laptop I want to 
migrate into Qubes as well.
My thought is to image both operating systems with a cloning tool such as 
Clonezilla.
I would really appreciate any kind of support from people willing to share 
similar experiences, thanks in advance.

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[qubes-users] Broadcom B43 BCM4350 PCI Modules / Device not functional

[Nedly]

I have been learning Qubes for a year off and on, and now I am trying to 
install it onto a laptop I use more regularly.

Currently I am working with the latest release (4.0.1 RC2) - testing 
updates, with Dom0 and Fedora completely updated.

I attempted a few tutorials regarding b43-fwwf & b43-fwcutter, but had no 
luck. I also tried the different modules installed, such as iwlwifi, 
iwldvm, iwlmvm, brcm modules - etc.

The most recent module I tried was to setup the WL module. This has not 
worked either. 

The wifi card works - currently I am using an Alfa USB Wifi adapter to make 
this post. I have tested the integrated wifi with other Linux distro's - 
mostly Debian based.

I tried searching resolutions online - including in this Google group, and 
I tried some of the listed solutions. None of them have worked for my card 
yet. The last one I tried can be seen here: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true#!searchin/qubes-users/b43%7Csort:date/qubes-users/x0oJVv9SdHw/VpN5UwFpAgAJ
 
where the method is to compile and bind the WL module. This process went 
well and the WL module is being attached to the wireless card, however I am 
still not seeing networking options in the toolbar. 

>From what I can tell, brcmfmac is being loaded at boot and assigned to the 
card as well as the WL module.

I have tried rmmod of the brcmfmac module to see if it was interfering, 
however I have not tried that process as a during boot script.

I feel like I am so close to figuring this out! Any tips or hints? Any 
known solutions? 

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[qubes-users] LibreOffice presentation mode with QubesOS

[Germann Fabio]

Hi qubes-users,

Recently I tried to present a presentation using LibreOffice on qubes. I'm
not able to get into the presentation mode where I got the fullscreen
presentation on the HDMI display and the presentation mode screen (current
slide, next slide and comments) on the internal display.

I assume this is because in the AppVM there is only one screen. Is there
any way around this?
Has anyone been able to get this working?

Cheers,
Fabio

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[qubes-users] XFCE Window Buttons & Window Menu v.s. Window Title

[Peter]

I like the way the VM name is displayed in the Window title between square 
brackets along with the application title.  For example: [work] Mozilla 
Firefox.

However in XFCE's panel items for Window Buttons & Window Menu, the title 
doesn't have the VM name.

I would like to see XFCE's panel items for Window Buttons & Window Menu 
also have the VM name in brackets, so that they would sort VM's by name.

Is there any way to accomplish this?

Thanks,

Peter

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!

[Chris Laprise]

On 11/4/19 8:16 AM, unman wrote:

On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 11:48:12AM +, Claudia wrote:

Anac:

Hi all,

Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried
several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a
4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete
some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a
[three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version?

Cheers,
Anac



I haven't tried burning it, but it looks like you're right. The iso is
4,790,943,744 bytes (4.79 GB, 4.56 GiB). The highest-capacity kind of single
layer DVD appears to be 4,700,000,000 bytes [1].

Apparently it's not that unusual though. There are several releases
exceeding 4.7 GB, some over 5.2 GB. [2]

Maybe you could unpack it, poke around and see if you can delete about 90 MB
worth of stuff, and re-pack it. Otherwise you might have to build the ISO
yourself.

In any case, though, you'll break the signature, which is usually the
biggest advantage of using a DVD instead of USB.

[1] http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa6.htm
[2] https://ftp.qubes-os.org/iso/


You're absolutely right.
There was a discussion over at qubes-issues (I think), about the
problems of trying to fit in to a standard DVD, and I think this release
reflects that.
As I recall the assumption was that most users burn to USB - clearly not
so here. I haven't tried this iso but I assume that double-layer would be
required or USB.
Workarounds for this would be to release different versions of the iso
for different use cases, with stripped down or alternate packages. E.g,
removing Whonix, or packaging it in a different way, including only
minimal versions of Fedora/Debian with ability to install online as
needed. All of these run against the current wish to provide a fully
functioning system out of the box. (Debian templates, of course, are
small but not minimal, and require users to install software they want,
as it is.)


IIRC the iso currently carries all three Debian-based templates. So it 
seems one possible solution would be to merge debian-10 with whonix-gw 
and whonix-ws into a single template that can be adapted at/after 
installation to specific roles.


And if it were up to me, I'd also leave Fedora off the iso as well. IMO 
its useful for Qubes development and little else, and it should not be 
used where strong security is desired.


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Re: [qubes-users] Rename Default User in Qubes Virtual Machine

[unman]

On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 04:38:54PM -0800, Ray Woodcock wrote:
>  
> 
> I downloaded a canned Qubes 4.0 VM from OSBoxes 
> . It comes with a default account named 
> osboxes (password osboxes.org). How can I rename that account?
> 


I'm assuming that that lacks a good deal of functionality?

One of the things that many users dont get is that Qubes is
just Linux/Xen under the hood.
So the answer to your question is (probably) "How do I rename a user
account in Linux", and the answer to *that* question is :
usermod -l new_name old_name

As `man usermod` will tell you, that ONLY changes the name - you probably
want to change the name of the home directory as well, but it isn't
strictly necessary.

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!

[unman]

On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 11:48:12AM +, Claudia wrote:
> Anac:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried
> > several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a
> > 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete
> > some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a
> > [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Anac
> > 
> 
> I haven't tried burning it, but it looks like you're right. The iso is
> 4,790,943,744 bytes (4.79 GB, 4.56 GiB). The highest-capacity kind of single
> layer DVD appears to be 4,700,000,000 bytes [1].
> 
> Apparently it's not that unusual though. There are several releases
> exceeding 4.7 GB, some over 5.2 GB. [2]
> 
> Maybe you could unpack it, poke around and see if you can delete about 90 MB
> worth of stuff, and re-pack it. Otherwise you might have to build the ISO
> yourself.
> 
> In any case, though, you'll break the signature, which is usually the
> biggest advantage of using a DVD instead of USB.
> 
> [1] http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa6.htm
> [2] https://ftp.qubes-os.org/iso/

You're absolutely right.
There was a discussion over at qubes-issues (I think), about the
problems of trying to fit in to a standard DVD, and I think this release
reflects that.
As I recall the assumption was that most users burn to USB - clearly not
so here. I haven't tried this iso but I assume that double-layer would be
required or USB.
Workarounds for this would be to release different versions of the iso
for different use cases, with stripped down or alternate packages. E.g,
removing Whonix, or packaging it in a different way, including only
minimal versions of Fedora/Debian with ability to install online as
needed. All of these run against the current wish to provide a fully
functioning system out of the box. (Debian templates, of course, are
small but not minimal, and require users to install software they want,
as it is.)

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!

[Claudia]

Anac:

Hi all,

Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried
several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a
4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete
some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a
[three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version?

Cheers,
Anac



I haven't tried burning it, but it looks like you're right. The iso is 
4,790,943,744 bytes (4.79 GB, 4.56 GiB). The highest-capacity kind of 
single layer DVD appears to be 4,700,000,000 bytes [1].


Apparently it's not that unusual though. There are several releases 
exceeding 4.7 GB, some over 5.2 GB. [2]


Maybe you could unpack it, poke around and see if you can delete about 
90 MB worth of stuff, and re-pack it. Otherwise you might have to build 
the ISO yourself.


In any case, though, you'll break the signature, which is usually the 
biggest advantage of using a DVD instead of USB.


[1] http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa6.htm
[2] https://ftp.qubes-os.org/iso/

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!

[Anac]

Hi all,

Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried
several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a
4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete
some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a
[three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version?

Cheers,
Anac

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Re: [qubes-users] Any news on 4.0.2-rc2?

[Claudia]

'awokd' via qubes-users:

And to follow on, is there a way to tell if I have 4.0 or 4.0.1 or

4.02rc2?

If it's like previous releases, if you have Qubes 4 patched to the
"current" (default) repository, you are running the latest point release
(4.0.1). If you have it patched to "current-testing", you're running the
current rc.



This got me thinking... If I install 4.0.1 from ISO, it of course 
enables the "current" (default) repo. However, if I install from an rc 
ISO, does that enable "current-testing" repo?


My feeling is that it must, because otherwise you'd be installing 
"current-testing" packages from ISO, but then updating from the 
"current" repo. Installed packages would be newer than updates.


If that's the case, then installing from an rc is actually different 
than installing from stable, because the former results in a system 
using "current-testing" instead of "current". But then this is contrary 
to saying that an rc declared stable is identical to the resulting 
stable release.




So, say I install rc2, and in five weeks it is declared stable. If I 
want to use a stable system, do I have to manually switch the repo over 
to "current"?


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