Re: [qubes-users] Trying to create an OSINT VM with Qubes Fedora template: Need help getting pip to work
On 6/6/21 1:12 PM, Chrome wrote:
Hello there all,
I am currently following the instructions to create an OSINT VM
Michael Bazzell's "Open Source Intelligence Techniques 8th Edition."
Naturally I'm trying to avoid installing a whole new OS (Ubuntu is
recommended by the author) or to have a dedicated laptop for this. I
figured it would be a fun experiment to see how far I could get with
Qubes before I ran into problems.
So far, issues are minor but when I hit a roadblock, like the below
terminal text, I'm ill-prepared to troubleshoot it myself. Can someone
help me understand what I'm looking at and how to fix it so I can
install packages via pip onto my Fedora templateVM? Thank you
Qubes version: 4.0
Problem: Need to install recommended OSINT tools to Fedora 32
templateVM, user is inexperienced with Linux and troubleshooting issues.
Solutions attempted: YOLOing it and figuring out how to install each
package as best I can, as I come across them, bypassing the ones which
I have difficulty installing.
Relevant Terminal text:
[user@fedora-32 ~]$ sudo -H python3 -m pip install instalooter
WARNING: Running pip install with root privileges is generally not a
good idea. Try `python3 -m pip install --user` instead.
WARNING: Retrying (Retry(total=4, connect=None, read=None,
redirect=None, status=None)) after connection broken by
'NewConnectionError('object at 0x7a2f64242310>: Failed to establish a new connection:
[Errno -2] Name or service not known')': /simple/instalooter/
WARNING: Retrying (Retry(total=3, connect=None, read=None,
redirect=None, status=None)) after connection broken by
'NewConnectionError('object at 0x7a2f642427c0>: Failed to establish a new connection:
[Errno -2] Name or service not known')': /simple/instalooter/
WARNING: Retrying (Retry(total=2, connect=None, read=None,
redirect=None, status=None)) after connection broken by
'NewConnectionError('object at 0x7a2f64242d90>: Failed to establish a new connection:
[Errno -2] Name or service not known')': /simple/instalooter/
^CERROR: Operation cancelled by user
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Hello. I can't address your specific issues with a Fedora install as I
chose to use Debian for my similar install. A big reason for me was
video CODEC issues in Fedora. I got fairly well into it about a year ago
and have not worked with it since. I took your route as well, "figuring
out how to install each package as best I can, as I come across them,
bypassing the ones which I have difficulty installing". Linux is not my
strong point either, but I do love Qubes.
I created a Debian based templateVM with his mods, (the intent was to
have a separate VM for each case) but that has its own quirks (browser
shortcuts for example and using Firefox). It can be a high maintenance
VM given the dynamic nature of the Internet and the purpose of an OSINT
VM. I believe the maintenance aspect of his own purpose built OSINT VM
image he offered for a while played a bigger part in his discontinuing
support for it than he publicly admits.
I'd have to review my files on this as I believe I kept notes on the
install while following his instructions for the modifications. Be
cautious of the tools he suggests, especially in the context of Qubes'
reason for being. Bazzell has some great ideas and suggestions, but I
urge due diligence - really understand the tool he suggests. Only you
know your individual risk level.
Always use a VPN or Whonix.
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Re: [qubes-users] Trying to create an OSINT VM with Qubes Fedora template: Need help getting pip to work
On 6/6/21 2:12 PM, Chrome wrote: Hello there all, I am currently following the instructions to create an OSINT VM Michael Bazzell's "Open Source Intelligence Techniques 8th Edition." Its a good book. I do wish he had a chapter for Qubes in it. I think the only reason Michael doesn't push Qubes as a platform is that it has a steep learning curve that not many are willing to take on. If you do Qubes anyway and the learning curve is Ok, then you will find Qubes to be a much more flexible platform in the long run. Naturally I'm trying to avoid installing a whole new OS (Ubuntu is recommended by the author) or to have a dedicated laptop for this. I figured it would be a fun experiment to see how far I could get with Qubes before I ran into problems. All the way I'm sure. So far, issues are minor but when I hit a roadblock, like the below terminal text, I'm ill-prepared to troubleshoot it myself. Can someone help me understand what I'm looking at and how to fix it so I can install packages via pip onto my Fedora templateVM? Thank you First templates do not have network access by default so you may need a proxy setup. https://qubes-os.discourse.group/t/when-to-assign-templatevms-a-network-connection/4307/2 By default pip needs/wants to install directly into the system space (/usr/local/) which on a template is not shared with the AppVM. Because this directory is not even presented to an AppVM file system it wont be useable in the AppVM. It would need to be installed in the AppVM itself if you want it installed in /usr/local. The problem is, security wise, its a bad idea to run foreign code (pip's package installer scripts) as root in a template. You could easily compromise every AppVM on the system by introducing malicious code. That is way pip was warning about running as root. But if you use the "--user" flag as the error message says then pip can install the packages an AppVM with everything installed into the user's home directory. That way the user has control over the env and can choose which environment they want to use. If you were wanting to have the ability to start from a pristine starting point for each user session then you might want to either to create a dvm or create a default AppVM which can be cloned as often as you like. Relevant Terminal text: [user@fedora-32 ~]$ sudo -H python3 -m pip install instalooter https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42988977/what-is-the-purpose-of-pip-install-user $ sudo -H python3 -m pip install --user instalooter The above will install in the users directory instead WARNING: Running pip install with root privileges is generally not a good idea. Try `python3 -m pip install --user` instead. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e65162b1-bb72-9ee8-777e-17a146fcb96c%40gmail.com.
[qubes-users] Trying to create an OSINT VM with Qubes Fedora template: Need help getting pip to work
Hello there all,
I am currently following the instructions to create an OSINT VM Michael
Bazzell's "Open Source Intelligence Techniques 8th Edition." Naturally I'm
trying to avoid installing a whole new OS (Ubuntu is recommended by the
author) or to have a dedicated laptop for this. I figured it would be a fun
experiment to see how far I could get with Qubes before I ran into
problems.
So far, issues are minor but when I hit a roadblock, like the below
terminal text, I'm ill-prepared to troubleshoot it myself. Can someone help
me understand what I'm looking at and how to fix it so I can install
packages via pip onto my Fedora templateVM? Thank you
Qubes version: 4.0
Problem: Need to install recommended OSINT tools to Fedora 32 templateVM,
user is inexperienced with Linux and troubleshooting issues.
Solutions attempted: YOLOing it and figuring out how to install each
package as best I can, as I come across them, bypassing the ones which I
have difficulty installing.
Relevant Terminal text:
[user@fedora-32 ~]$ sudo -H python3 -m pip install instalooter
WARNING: Running pip install with root privileges is generally not a good
idea. Try `python3 -m pip install --user` instead.
WARNING: Retrying (Retry(total=4, connect=None, read=None, redirect=None,
status=None)) after connection broken by
'NewConnectionError(': Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno -2]
Name or service not known')': /simple/instalooter/
WARNING: Retrying (Retry(total=3, connect=None, read=None, redirect=None,
status=None)) after connection broken by
'NewConnectionError(': Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno -2]
Name or service not known')': /simple/instalooter/
WARNING: Retrying (Retry(total=2, connect=None, read=None, redirect=None,
status=None)) after connection broken by
'NewConnectionError(': Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno -2]
Name or service not known')': /simple/instalooter/
^CERROR: Operation cancelled by user
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[qubes-users] Having an issue with recommneded Qubes Bisq install (Broken Pipe, Device or resource busy)
Procedure followed: bisq wiki entry for running bisq on qubes https://bisq.wiki/Running_Bisq_on_Qubes Current terminal error: user@bisq-vm:~$ sudo dpkg -i Bisq-64bit-1.6.5.deb Selecting previously unselected package bisq. (Reading database ... 133382 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack Bisq-64bit-1.6.5.deb ... Unpacking bisq (1.6.5-1) ... *dpkg: error processing archive Bisq-64bit-1.6.5.deb (--install): unable to move aside './opt/bisq/bin/Bisq' to install new version: Device or resource busy* dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: Bisq-64bit-1.6.5.deb user@bisq-vm:~$ Possible things I screwed up on: I typo'd the very first line of the instructions, is there any chance this caused me a problem during my install? "sudo mkdir -p /rw/bind-dirs/opt/bisq/bin/Bisq" was typoed and likely corresponds to the following terminal message "unable to move aside './opt/bisq/bin/Bisq' to install new version: Device or resource busy" Attempted solutions: Deleted the VM twice and attempted to follow the steps again, twice. Potential solution: Follow the same steps on the wiki but try a fedora install instead? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5eaf1f10-e17b-42e1-8461-a49b6a77f0can%40googlegroups.com.
