Re: [qubes-users] Celeron N3350 and VT-d

2018-10-10 Thread newpath7
On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 8:42:50 PM UTC-6, awokd wrote:
> @gmail.com:
> > On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 8:10:17 AM UTC-6, awokd wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Now, for the actual question. :) The installer reports missing 
> >>> IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi, however the machine's motherboard is an Intel Celeron 
> >>> N3350 which, according to 
> >>> https://ark.intel.com/products/95598/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N3350-2M-Cache-up-to-2-4-GHz-,
> >>>  should have VT-d (unless it needs a specific kind of VT-d?). I am not 
> >>> sure about IOMMU, perhaps it is missing. Does the error message list 
> >>> those as alternatives of the same thing? Or is it that I may have VT-d 
> >>> but not IOMMU, and the error just lists them all if just one has not been 
> >>> detected?
> >>
> >> Did you enable the possibly multiple virtualization options in your UEFI
> >> config?
> > 
> > There are actually no virtualization options in my UEFI config. I do get to 
> > turn off secure boot and some TSC stuff, but not much else. There's no vmx 
> > flag in /proc/cpuinfo (less that file after ctrl+f2 during installation), 
> > but apparently Qubes is not complaining about a lack of VT-x. There is a 
> > hypervisor flag, however.
> 
> It's possible your CPU supports the features, but not your motherboard's 
> chipset and/or UEFI. Not having any options in the config for it is 
> generally a bad sign. Check to see if there's a firmware update 
> available for your board. VT-d implies there's at least one IOMMU, and 
> VT-x is present on everything with VT-d.

Indeed... doing more research it does seem that it is not simply a matter at 
looking at what the chipset supports. Updated UEFI to its latest version, and 
still there is no option for virtualization settings.

Since I used default installation settings and to encrypt drive (actually to a 
flash drive) I had to gpart it to have fat32 partition with /boot info (used 
the installer structure as example but with files that were actually installed 
to the encrypted partition.)

Finally logged in. qubes-hcl-report gives HVM active, I/O MMU not active, 
HAP/SLAT Yes, TPM Device not found (UEFI settings has something about TPM), 
Remapping No. This is for an Acer Aspire ES1 432. I'll still use Qubes this 
way, knowing full well that without VT-d, a lot of protection (ie against DMA 
attacks) is disabled. I'll just cross my fingers that perhaps a future firmware 
update will allow VT-d to be turned on, if the motherboard supports it.

Thanks for the pointers!


Cheers

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Re: [qubes-users] Celeron N3350 and VT-d

2018-10-08 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users




newpa...@gmail.com:

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 8:10:17 AM UTC-6, awokd wrote:




Now, for the actual question. :) The installer reports missing 
IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi, however the machine's motherboard is an Intel Celeron N3350 
which, according to 
https://ark.intel.com/products/95598/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N3350-2M-Cache-up-to-2-4-GHz-,
 should have VT-d (unless it needs a specific kind of VT-d?). I am not sure 
about IOMMU, perhaps it is missing. Does the error message list those as 
alternatives of the same thing? Or is it that I may have VT-d but not IOMMU, 
and the error just lists them all if just one has not been detected?


Did you enable the possibly multiple virtualization options in your UEFI
config?


There are actually no virtualization options in my UEFI config. I do get to 
turn off secure boot and some TSC stuff, but not much else. There's no vmx flag 
in /proc/cpuinfo (less that file after ctrl+f2 during installation), but 
apparently Qubes is not complaining about a lack of VT-x. There is a hypervisor 
flag, however.


It's possible your CPU supports the features, but not your motherboard's 
chipset and/or UEFI. Not having any options in the config for it is 
generally a bad sign. Check to see if there's a firmware update 
available for your board. VT-d implies there's at least one IOMMU, and 
VT-x is present on everything with VT-d.


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Re: [qubes-users] Celeron N3350 and VT-d

2018-10-08 Thread newpath7
On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 8:10:17 AM UTC-6, awokd wrote:
> 
> 
> > Now, for the actual question. :) The installer reports missing 
> > IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi, however the machine's motherboard is an Intel Celeron 
> > N3350 which, according to 
> > https://ark.intel.com/products/95598/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N3350-2M-Cache-up-to-2-4-GHz-,
> >  should have VT-d (unless it needs a specific kind of VT-d?). I am not sure 
> > about IOMMU, perhaps it is missing. Does the error message list those as 
> > alternatives of the same thing? Or is it that I may have VT-d but not 
> > IOMMU, and the error just lists them all if just one has not been detected?
> 
> Did you enable the possibly multiple virtualization options in your UEFI 
> config?

There are actually no virtualization options in my UEFI config. I do get to 
turn off secure boot and some TSC stuff, but not much else. There's no vmx flag 
in /proc/cpuinfo (less that file after ctrl+f2 during installation), but 
apparently Qubes is not complaining about a lack of VT-x. There is a hypervisor 
flag, however. 

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Re: [qubes-users] Celeron N3350 and VT-d

2018-10-08 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users

newpa...@gmail.com wrote on 10/8/18 5:42 AM:


Now, for the actual question. :) The installer reports missing 
IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi, however the machine's motherboard is an Intel Celeron N3350 
which, according to 
https://ark.intel.com/products/95598/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N3350-2M-Cache-up-to-2-4-GHz-,
 should have VT-d (unless it needs a specific kind of VT-d?). I am not sure 
about IOMMU, perhaps it is missing. Does the error message list those as 
alternatives of the same thing? Or is it that I may have VT-d but not IOMMU, 
and the error just lists them all if just one has not been detected?


Did you enable the possibly multiple virtualization options in your UEFI 
config?


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[qubes-users] Celeron N3350 and VT-d

2018-10-07 Thread newpath7
Kudos to the QubesOS team for the effort and cool idea that is Qubes.

I'm new Qubes and a few days ago decided to give it a try.

After dd'ing the R4 checksum-checked iso and turning off "secure boot" on 
target device, I got a printk flood of GPE errors. After being unable to 
stop/mask them with the acpi_mask_gpe or similar boot option (was not even sure 
what  to use), I edited BOOTX64.cfg to use [qubes] (but modified to still 
no be quiet) instead of [qubes-verbose]. It booted but always failed to mount 
/dev/root or /dev/mapper/live-rw. Internet search results had me trying many 
things to no avail. Finally, I found out my USB stick is a fake (thanks 
f3write/read). I tried from another (this time good) stick and got the same 
error. I suspected it had to do with the UEFI-only boot mode of target machine 
only? using GPT, and therefore deleted all partitions on good stick and created 
a GPT table with gdisk; then I dd'd, and then it finally booted to the 
installer. (Perhaps UEFI boot mode stage 2 freaks out if partition 1 is not GPT 
labelled, even though stage 1 boots fine.)

Now, for the actual question. :) The installer reports missing 
IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi, however the machine's motherboard is an Intel Celeron N3350 
which, according to 
https://ark.intel.com/products/95598/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N3350-2M-Cache-up-to-2-4-GHz-,
 should have VT-d (unless it needs a specific kind of VT-d?). I am not sure 
about IOMMU, perhaps it is missing. Does the error message list those as 
alternatives of the same thing? Or is it that I may have VT-d but not IOMMU, 
and the error just lists them all if just one has not been detected?


Cheers

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