Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2019-11-05 10:01 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > On 2019-11-05 8:15 AM, Steve Coleman wrote: >> On 2019-11-04 22:12, Andrew David Wong wrote: On 2019-11-04 6:05 >> AM, Anac wrote: > Hi all, > > Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular > DVD? I tried several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB > iso doesn't fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD > required or is it possible to delete some seldomly needed > parts from the iso? Or did I catch a > [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version? > > Cheers, Anac > > >> Please see the discussion on this issue: > >> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5367 > >> Basically, making this release small enough to fit on a DVD would >> have required too many other sacrifices. In the end, we decided >> that this was the least bad option. > >>> I would like to make a suggestion here. > >>> If you know at the time of a release that the ISO will not fit on >>> a regular DVD then it would make sense to mention that up front, >>> and then use a link to point the potential user directly at the >>> instructions for using/creating a bootable USB thumb drive. > >>> The installation instructions do mention this USB option, but >>> that "option" should be front and center at the top, as it is >>> probably the best/only option for those without a dual-layer DVD >>> drive installed in their machine. The DVD installation >>> instructions should also say "dual layer DVD" just to be clear >>> about this known size problem. > > This is a good suggestion. Thank you! We'll do this for the next 4.0.2 > announcement and update the documentation accordingly. > Here's the updated documentation section: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/installation-guide/#copying-the-iso-onto-the-installation-medium I've also updated the RC2 announcement on the website for anyone who might refer to it in the future: https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/11/03/qubes-4-0-2-rc2/#what-should-i-do This will also help us remember to mention it in the next release announcement. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAl3CcJoACgkQ203TvDlQ MDB2bQ//X6CMzbxDmk51dr+8SrgJNDsbYRBj/+LB9E29lt8+y022p+AsgCgXnD44 eZB9jP3BeUHrUVYNNxE3TMrILSScrhD4tfHIUtP7F/vSFnGMiCpRYMZ0PprCfrrI gih0DM4qgRuuIl6Xbw03Bp4wbPXPhsDw5Eg5CkeaA0yqpop75wh9vsBBYPMwypyP m1XcIQWcc4Xp7DSxOM0tPONuuI9V8N7EFTCz35+Jev6eaoZOsy8tXIfYjOaXVY7s nm57mBINRKLy9TqIbB/xJbArDCEKA9z0KX/wgx39Y23x4YYkLH/M5crYZNf6XgPv rW9TE4uWPlqRmWICtD86aiNT17U/84Y0CrgwuRK24B+hfxLlR9Ks6a7+OkwO9+Ep FCDp8YkhyN3tX4gbmbEycTbwhQSx0VYtABkuxJJfxpbTm7j8iTUEdAZ8CPCyPdhi h29gqTiBNuxgk+RoQWcanttkx9sPABF3f2tErWJaL8WtkvxssXngRO26c4qItfcs iDUaPPMxsSur9qYpYsDtHqIMSEdqfrw+NLIGD4marneBSTxuwgnI16Yd35vgAtSU AbDrmJSFJqXPnr2LOsvYPskigJeZaZaPWpZF2on8o1vHT4ExtD+xTobLG27YCAxl ul4aLLmGiMhmuN/hWudi0tEFplXgOtm8DpF+8j+oiZopU+vCqRA= =Xd1h -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9ab9388e-2f37-66ba-9297-21d8a922e1f8%40qubes-os.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2019-11-05 8:15 AM, Steve Coleman wrote: > On 2019-11-04 22:12, Andrew David Wong wrote: On 2019-11-04 6:05 > AM, Anac wrote: Hi all, Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version? Cheers, Anac > > Please see the discussion on this issue: > > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5367 > > Basically, making this release small enough to fit on a DVD would > have required too many other sacrifices. In the end, we decided > that this was the least bad option. > >> I would like to make a suggestion here. > >> If you know at the time of a release that the ISO will not fit on >> a regular DVD then it would make sense to mention that up front, >> and then use a link to point the potential user directly at the >> instructions for using/creating a bootable USB thumb drive. > >> The installation instructions do mention this USB option, but >> that "option" should be front and center at the top, as it is >> probably the best/only option for those without a dual-layer DVD >> drive installed in their machine. The DVD installation >> instructions should also say "dual layer DVD" just to be clear >> about this known size problem. This is a good suggestion. Thank you! We'll do this for the next 4.0.2 announcement and update the documentation accordingly. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAl3CRZoACgkQ203TvDlQ MDDvQRAApzP5gphs1kGA34J4X+dTucoYR+xj71ZJhrAJqyjCzSQhJxLhC9KHtMH6 zoLTmdzOw56nqLtBTObOGCOVutaHOavtKflSbzLeRCLghSfc7cJTpQo7zdMO5d1o 7N0+gb6lNeb8WmsFfJ0erbzv6xPoe069+/Ex+tDDRURFl4bTEBZLysITEu1IBwRr Zpe5H/H/NSJshQ3fdDg86BYQ2sAm0lIjibU5z2KCrK2q+fgP2tFqqSYXfarOGRcL Eqec8uTB53MWpL4yFhczjQ7XFggI6ECWXwI0OUsmAeVVw4jwvFiYIBvUFp0yzYX9 2VXTBNmbyr2IF/OiFtxlNoJrYiwTW/6dzus/9lviKglHlF5AP+DhFxttIEVoAQNq FOmZTIkbG/e5ZG6TI+AywUme7xzBu56fvBSe5ZfY8AaeK46Ve9f0cBwWNfvPtwk7 BZsGTJeyns5oLcC5fyoxU9eoTkB9oOjUU3Ct2KLGhT/HZSupXM+THhSnYHP4GlLG US4Q9LuGWz47F51xOi4J0J/V7Apr+7qTmbnLCVkQfL+QYowYFLYqK93SWuPnuQRb OZBTFG4E+lfr53epDcTz5od+UbfqsocpLECv2gNCYfhFQxMvVOAAYOHbh2dWa9e8 3GhosZYgeIRcra6Cd41TOpNLiiAg3TRTjkXcOkzJj9GLU8M68kA= =yoSV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8f2d0a63-d927-a9d0-42e8-dd2e4d3e69e7%40qubes-os.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!
On 2019-11-04 22:12, Andrew David Wong wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2019-11-04 6:05 AM, Anac wrote: Hi all, Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version? Cheers, Anac Please see the discussion on this issue: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5367 Basically, making this release small enough to fit on a DVD would have required too many other sacrifices. In the end, we decided that this was the least bad option. I would like to make a suggestion here. If you know at the time of a release that the ISO will not fit on a regular DVD then it would make sense to mention that up front, and then use a link to point the potential user directly at the instructions for using/creating a bootable USB thumb drive. The installation instructions do mention this USB option, but that "option" should be front and center at the top, as it is probably the best/only option for those without a dual-layer DVD drive installed in their machine. The DVD installation instructions should also say "dual layer DVD" just to be clear about this known size problem. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAl3A6IsACgkQ203TvDlQ MDCrAhAAzYKrlBFPTNl04ddecyeBfxQqQ+8q5MAZfJkLVq6CyS8zSz8ObrcVgbju sbuGCGPJCBQ7bCVNt8kHSgLxKcK9CXS0p/kGvfDKnyyU1dafFl008GDlNG6sRI0G 7iqLdUK5gl9tccg9L3M/oNgN31YvnYqdRKxFsV9kgcnemt1DvB/6w8+ygex0d4Id CaqpITbUXJfza78Nm8I4dORhvzkMEojyvSUduAx0a1Hx1RDhAfIy416aRn622kAa /Pk3q1vJAcJn8jmaqoqJV/OnBnqLbSAK/5vWk3SElACRsZBTEAwrCQFNtLrPZQw3 tLKrBd8AZQCURkWLE6zrKzZLdtilXszmcu4mrCDy9UbdU7P9ZJy83cPXDgIiFQQV 5Mj3x6EpsL0kOCqEk8aKvTS6OlzSZzQJQGKaOvut8SoFoPj7nYYP2cC0ysmm+e83 CXVLzZ4ecyZuxklVmGg25nEFjRJDUwaRu5MdCU+O1mGCBg4I2Wmrp+0Z3ncclHZu rYQMsvDquVhUQktfO1c9YktIQcITMeptKj8VUEjOFzI5EblWhoKZGh3SnfnDIA66 tTO1gcUOHRvBBR3fMBirxXOs3qArPjl7NGyZLddbqNJmYnhClEPE1Fg6ZoJ3WvIz U9lnalfIqm/23jzeFnwejmDgQ1jxQa14BIYcSlgXUSG6YLTPdzI= =HvSt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a9795fb7-2815-df5a-8af8-6857e81253b0%40jhuapl.edu.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2019-11-04 6:05 AM, Anac wrote: > Hi all, > > Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I > tried several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't > fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it > possible to delete some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did > I catch a [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version? > > Cheers, Anac > Please see the discussion on this issue: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5367 Basically, making this release small enough to fit on a DVD would have required too many other sacrifices. In the end, we decided that this was the least bad option. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAl3A6IsACgkQ203TvDlQ MDCrAhAAzYKrlBFPTNl04ddecyeBfxQqQ+8q5MAZfJkLVq6CyS8zSz8ObrcVgbju sbuGCGPJCBQ7bCVNt8kHSgLxKcK9CXS0p/kGvfDKnyyU1dafFl008GDlNG6sRI0G 7iqLdUK5gl9tccg9L3M/oNgN31YvnYqdRKxFsV9kgcnemt1DvB/6w8+ygex0d4Id CaqpITbUXJfza78Nm8I4dORhvzkMEojyvSUduAx0a1Hx1RDhAfIy416aRn622kAa /Pk3q1vJAcJn8jmaqoqJV/OnBnqLbSAK/5vWk3SElACRsZBTEAwrCQFNtLrPZQw3 tLKrBd8AZQCURkWLE6zrKzZLdtilXszmcu4mrCDy9UbdU7P9ZJy83cPXDgIiFQQV 5Mj3x6EpsL0kOCqEk8aKvTS6OlzSZzQJQGKaOvut8SoFoPj7nYYP2cC0ysmm+e83 CXVLzZ4ecyZuxklVmGg25nEFjRJDUwaRu5MdCU+O1mGCBg4I2Wmrp+0Z3ncclHZu rYQMsvDquVhUQktfO1c9YktIQcITMeptKj8VUEjOFzI5EblWhoKZGh3SnfnDIA66 tTO1gcUOHRvBBR3fMBirxXOs3qArPjl7NGyZLddbqNJmYnhClEPE1Fg6ZoJ3WvIz U9lnalfIqm/23jzeFnwejmDgQ1jxQa14BIYcSlgXUSG6YLTPdzI= =HvSt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3604a417-7e0b-bab9-9662-73df8b67fdf5%40qubes-os.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!
On 11/4/19 8:16 AM, unman wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 11:48:12AM +, Claudia wrote: Anac: Hi all, Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version? Cheers, Anac I haven't tried burning it, but it looks like you're right. The iso is 4,790,943,744 bytes (4.79 GB, 4.56 GiB). The highest-capacity kind of single layer DVD appears to be 4,700,000,000 bytes [1]. Apparently it's not that unusual though. There are several releases exceeding 4.7 GB, some over 5.2 GB. [2] Maybe you could unpack it, poke around and see if you can delete about 90 MB worth of stuff, and re-pack it. Otherwise you might have to build the ISO yourself. In any case, though, you'll break the signature, which is usually the biggest advantage of using a DVD instead of USB. [1] http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa6.htm [2] https://ftp.qubes-os.org/iso/ You're absolutely right. There was a discussion over at qubes-issues (I think), about the problems of trying to fit in to a standard DVD, and I think this release reflects that. As I recall the assumption was that most users burn to USB - clearly not so here. I haven't tried this iso but I assume that double-layer would be required or USB. Workarounds for this would be to release different versions of the iso for different use cases, with stripped down or alternate packages. E.g, removing Whonix, or packaging it in a different way, including only minimal versions of Fedora/Debian with ability to install online as needed. All of these run against the current wish to provide a fully functioning system out of the box. (Debian templates, of course, are small but not minimal, and require users to install software they want, as it is.) IIRC the iso currently carries all three Debian-based templates. So it seems one possible solution would be to merge debian-10 with whonix-gw and whonix-ws into a single template that can be adapted at/after installation to specific roles. And if it were up to me, I'd also leave Fedora off the iso as well. IMO its useful for Qubes development and little else, and it should not be used where strong security is desired. -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/128c1f26-fcd5-b694-07d9-57ca2107b2a9%40posteo.net.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 11:48:12AM +, Claudia wrote: > Anac: > > Hi all, > > > > Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried > > several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a > > 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete > > some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a > > [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version? > > > > Cheers, > > Anac > > > > I haven't tried burning it, but it looks like you're right. The iso is > 4,790,943,744 bytes (4.79 GB, 4.56 GiB). The highest-capacity kind of single > layer DVD appears to be 4,700,000,000 bytes [1]. > > Apparently it's not that unusual though. There are several releases > exceeding 4.7 GB, some over 5.2 GB. [2] > > Maybe you could unpack it, poke around and see if you can delete about 90 MB > worth of stuff, and re-pack it. Otherwise you might have to build the ISO > yourself. > > In any case, though, you'll break the signature, which is usually the > biggest advantage of using a DVD instead of USB. > > [1] http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa6.htm > [2] https://ftp.qubes-os.org/iso/ You're absolutely right. There was a discussion over at qubes-issues (I think), about the problems of trying to fit in to a standard DVD, and I think this release reflects that. As I recall the assumption was that most users burn to USB - clearly not so here. I haven't tried this iso but I assume that double-layer would be required or USB. Workarounds for this would be to release different versions of the iso for different use cases, with stripped down or alternate packages. E.g, removing Whonix, or packaging it in a different way, including only minimal versions of Fedora/Debian with ability to install online as needed. All of these run against the current wish to provide a fully functioning system out of the box. (Debian templates, of course, are small but not minimal, and require users to install software they want, as it is.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20191104131639.GA14006%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!
Anac: Hi all, Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version? Cheers, Anac I haven't tried burning it, but it looks like you're right. The iso is 4,790,943,744 bytes (4.79 GB, 4.56 GiB). The highest-capacity kind of single layer DVD appears to be 4,700,000,000 bytes [1]. Apparently it's not that unusual though. There are several releases exceeding 4.7 GB, some over 5.2 GB. [2] Maybe you could unpack it, poke around and see if you can delete about 90 MB worth of stuff, and re-pack it. Otherwise you might have to build the ISO yourself. In any case, though, you'll break the signature, which is usually the biggest advantage of using a DVD instead of USB. [1] http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa6.htm [2] https://ftp.qubes-os.org/iso/ - This free account was provided by VFEmail.net - report spam to ab...@vfemail.net ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c98cb844-d685-7401-efa7-ff73f57eeb0c%40vfemail.net.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!
Hi all, Is it just me or does the iso really not fit onto a regular DVD? I tried several burn programs - same result. The 4.8 GB iso doesn't fit onto a 4.7 GB DVD. Is a double-layer DVD required or is it possible to delete some seldomly needed parts from the iso? Or did I catch a [three-digits-agency]-in-the-middle version? Cheers, Anac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/bde70e48-e2fe-fb84-dfc4-34f63d8f0e0c%40rbox.co.
[qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.2-rc2 has been released!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dear Qubes Community, We're pleased to announce the second release candidate for Qubes 4.0.2! Features: - - All 4.0 dom0 updates to date - - Fedora 30 TemplateVM - - Debian 10 TemplateVM - - Whonix 15 Gateway and Workstation TemplateVMs - - Linux kernel 4.19 by default Qubes 4.0.2-rc2 is available on the Downloads page: https://www.qubes-os.org/downloads/ What is a point release? A point release does not designate a separate, new version of Qubes OS. Rather, it designates its respective major or minor release (in this case, 4.0) inclusive of all updates up to a certain point. Installing Qubes 4.0 and fully updating it results in the same system as installing Qubes 4.0.2. What should I do? = If you installed Qubes 4.0 or 4.0.1 and have fully updated [1], then your system is already equivalent to a Qubes 4.0.2 installation. No further action is required. Regardless of your current OS, if you wish to install (or reinstall) Qubes 4.0 for any reason, then the 4.0.2 ISO makes this more convenient and secure, since it bundles all Qubes 4.0 updates to date. Release candidate planning == If no major issues are discovered in 4.0.2-rc2, we expect the stable release of 4.0.2 to follow in a few weeks. As usual, you can help by reporting any bugs you encounter[2]. [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/updating-qubes-os/ [2] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/reporting-bugs/ This announcement is also available on the Qubes website: https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/11/03/qubes-4-0-2-rc2/ - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAl2/vvkACgkQ203TvDlQ MDDu4A/8DCJa49vq4sQvMIh5ZhlVcVtItzZUIvYOZ601VSjdxsZW1DfF3k1fmkh5 l+InLTQReUd7dHL7iAAfke/nCrWDo9CRZ2TsyBEm70u4qLRsUcVS12dtElFxG2ua eZrwXowpxBSHcEkiSUeLUW+EbBHN2GipAygzL3OxWDXkdIGDMGi5MxuODUXIZ7pO b0B+nCCRh5tfBgZ7m15dUKzsqnn/0C9JM7vcbB0XLCcB0ZCfEKYvN4IC0whnxV7p SEUHP0iaCkH3vS826o8ChJz+6BC4c2TFQK3ndFzBlHsoBP8vePRVCjlsm2O4945k raDt+JxzP3wC0PxtZJhC+cqfbCs7RYUOIu8HDemx50+4/j4+KsKxry8lpn4m50DG kqBJxhrtwSxI1aFxjdjLgd9Iuwxr4xS7u0OKYrxCp03jY/GMF1HjcoBvcwURfWZl Te8jinWigXIdMr3Xjg6117yboRcdmGFygOc/eNG42CTFNpph+8pruiMQLD8SeMCm UMD3PdCsaXlJ/KilAThS+BGOy56mRF6b4V8n8Sq3+NprV97jFdjrxANxWuRK1f70 60Mo3pN486BtdvJdimRof+b1GvgwzsglTyA9cvuGbA39YQ7J02isbgHP00aOESBb js0NvBTy8mspA0QhI8ECJlA2GamVCF3URObySquOE9JzKS7k1Fk= =cm9P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/729f82a2-cee2-dd3c-85b4-9bdff5154385%40qubes-os.org.