Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd

On 11/22/2017 11:46 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: So for example, there is no issue buying a motherboard (and cleaning it up), with an intel NIC, just as long you do not use the nic, right? I mean, it cannot execute commands inwards to the motherboard, but only whatever passes through the NIC when

Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd

On 11/22/2017 10:11 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: Nice! I did not know about TALOS, seems really interesting. I had kinda lost any hope for POWER CPU's since IBM are such big slackers when it comes to getting POWER marketed or supporting motherboard developers in the mass markets. The way I

Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd

On 11/22/2017 11:26 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: oh btw Tai, I realized I missed your AMD line comment. I'm well aware that AMD sucks too, but this is not my point I tried to make. The point is that AMD looks good (for other reasons), compared to Intel right now. If Intel wants to fight back, they

Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 4:34:07 AM UTC, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/22/2017 10:54 PM, jkitt wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:34:26 UTC, Sandy Harris wrote: > >> From a crypto list, seemed relevant here. > >> . > >> Oh joy... > >> > >> Intel finds critical holes in

Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd

On 11/22/2017 10:54 PM, jkitt wrote: On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:34:26 UTC, Sandy Harris wrote: From a crypto list, seemed relevant here. . Oh joy... Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets

[qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd (was: How to find hidden/undocumented instructions

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 3:54:57 AM UTC, jkitt wrote: > On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:34:26 UTC, Sandy Harris wrote: > > From a crypto list, seemed relevant here. > > . > > Oh joy... > > > > Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons > > of desktop,

Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 2:46:16 AM UTC, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/22/2017 05:07 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: > > > Now seems like a really good time to twist Intel's arm to the back and > > force them to get rid of these invasive blobs, once and for all. Going open > > source, should be

[qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd (was: How to find hidden/undocumented instructions

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:34:26 UTC, Sandy Harris wrote: > From a crypto list, seemed relevant here. > . > Oh joy... > > Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons > of desktop, server chipsets >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 2:46:16 AM UTC, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/22/2017 05:07 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: > > > Now seems like a really good time to twist Intel's arm to the back and > > force them to get rid of these invasive blobs, once and for all. Going open > > source, should be

Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd

On 11/22/2017 05:07 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: Now seems like a really good time to twist Intel's arm to the back and force them to get rid of these invasive blobs, once and for all. Going open source, should be the very minimum solution, after all, how can we trust a company like this otherwise,

[qubes-users] Re: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd (was: How to find hidden/undocumented instructions

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 1:34:26 PM UTC, Sandy Harris wrote: > From a crypto list, seemed relevant here. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: =JeffH > Date: Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 7:04 PM > Subject: [Cryptography] Intel Management Engine pwnd