[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Fedora 26 TemplateVM Upgrade

2018-01-09 Thread stephenatverdi
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:15:29 UTC+1, Andrew David Wong  wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> Dear Qubes Community,
> 
> Fedora 25 reached EOL ([end-of-life]) on 2017-12-12. We sincerely
> apologize for our failure to provide timely notice of this event. It
> is strongly recommend that all Qubes users upgrade their Fedora 25
> TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs to Fedora 26 immediately. We provide
> step-by-step [upgrade instructions] for upgrading your existing
> TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs in-place on both Qubes 3.2 and Qubes
> 4.0. For a complete list of TemplateVM versions supported for your
> specific version of Qubes, see [Supported TemplateVM Versions].
> 
> We also provide fresh Fedora 26 TemplateVM packages through the
> official Qubes repositories, which you can get with the following
> commands (in dom0).
> 
> Standard Fedora 26 TemplateVM:
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26
> 
> [Minimal] Fedora 26 TemplateVM:
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26-minimal
> 
> After upgrading to a Fedora 26 TemplateVM, please remember to set all
> qubes that were using the old template to use the new one. The
> instructions to do this can be found in the [upgrade instructions]
> for your specific version.
> 
> Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version
> in dom0. If you're using Qubes 3.2 or 4.0, there is no dom0 OS
> upgrade available, since none is currently required. For details,
> please see our [Note on dom0 and EOL].
> 
> If you're using an older version of Qubes than 3.2, we strongly
> recommend that you upgrade to 3.2, as older versions are no longer
> supported.
> 
> 
> [end-of-life]: 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Maintenance_Schedule
> [upgrade instructions]: /doc/template/fedora/upgrade-25-to-26/
> [Supported TemplateVM Versions]: /doc/supported-versions/#templatevms
> [Minimal]: /doc/templates/fedora-minimal/
> [Note on dom0 and EOL]: /doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol
> 
> This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/06/fedora-26-upgrade/
> 
> - -- 
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
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Thank you.

Unfortunately I know a couple of Qubes users who have switched to plain Fedora 
because of the delay.  That and the whole Meltdown/Spectre uncertainty.  I'm 
sure they'll be back after that has blown over and 4.0 has a stable release.

Keep up the good work!

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[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Fedora 26 TemplateVM Upgrade

2018-01-08 Thread Yuraeitha
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 1:15:29 AM UTC+1, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> Dear Qubes Community,
> 
> Fedora 25 reached EOL ([end-of-life]) on 2017-12-12. We sincerely
> apologize for our failure to provide timely notice of this event. It
> is strongly recommend that all Qubes users upgrade their Fedora 25
> TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs to Fedora 26 immediately. We provide
> step-by-step [upgrade instructions] for upgrading your existing
> TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs in-place on both Qubes 3.2 and Qubes
> 4.0. For a complete list of TemplateVM versions supported for your
> specific version of Qubes, see [Supported TemplateVM Versions].
> 
> We also provide fresh Fedora 26 TemplateVM packages through the
> official Qubes repositories, which you can get with the following
> commands (in dom0).
> 
> Standard Fedora 26 TemplateVM:
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26
> 
> [Minimal] Fedora 26 TemplateVM:
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26-minimal
> 
> After upgrading to a Fedora 26 TemplateVM, please remember to set all
> qubes that were using the old template to use the new one. The
> instructions to do this can be found in the [upgrade instructions]
> for your specific version.
> 
> Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version
> in dom0. If you're using Qubes 3.2 or 4.0, there is no dom0 OS
> upgrade available, since none is currently required. For details,
> please see our [Note on dom0 and EOL].
> 
> If you're using an older version of Qubes than 3.2, we strongly
> recommend that you upgrade to 3.2, as older versions are no longer
> supported.
> 
> 
> [end-of-life]: 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Maintenance_Schedule
> [upgrade instructions]: /doc/template/fedora/upgrade-25-to-26/
> [Supported TemplateVM Versions]: /doc/supported-versions/#templatevms
> [Minimal]: /doc/templates/fedora-minimal/
> [Note on dom0 and EOL]: /doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol
> 
> This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/06/fedora-26-upgrade/
> 
> - -- 
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
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I'll third that notion from above, definitely highly valuing the amazing work 
put into Qubes by everyone working on it, especially the core staff. I also 
appreciate good communication to the mass-users, therefore this post to me is 
also highly valued and appreciated. Although I feel a little double regarding 
the apology, because I'm both inclined to say it's not needed at all, but also 
at the same time happy about receiving it. Since being open, honest and 
transparent, with good communication, goes a long way, and it makes Qubes more 
likable. 

Qubes is definitely high up on my list of projects that are shaping a better 
tomorrow for all of humanity. Open, transparent, secure and decentralized 
technology is incredible important in order to maintain democracy and avoid new 
dictators grasping for power through highly decentralized nontransparent and 
closed insecure software. Some people apparently believe we will never see 
another Hitler or Stalin, and that democracy is something that cannot crack or 
falter in modern times. However power enabled by centralized and abusive 
technology certainly challenges that naive belief by returning more and more 
power back to the individual leaders as centralized innovation goes on year by 
year. For that, I believe Qubes is really important piece of puzzle to a better 
tomorrow, on the grand scheme of things into the future. 

I'm looking forward to see how Qubes will help shape our world tomorrow!

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Fedora 26 TemplateVM Upgrade

2018-01-08 Thread Tom Hutchinson
> please don't apologize for your incognizable hard and important work. ;)

I second the motion. I am so thankful for the Qubes team's work to
protect us users.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 5:37 AM, rob_66  wrote:
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> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 18:15:21 -0600
> Andrew David Wong  wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Qubes Community,
> >
> > Fedora 25 reached EOL ([end-of-life]) on 2017-12-12. We sincerely
> > apologize for our failure to provide timely notice of this event.
>
>
> Dear Qubes team and developers,
>
> please don't apologize for your incognizable hard and
> important work. ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> rob
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[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Fedora 26 TemplateVM Upgrade

2018-01-08 Thread rob_66
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 18:15:21 -0600
Andrew David Wong  wrote:

> 
> Dear Qubes Community,
> 
> Fedora 25 reached EOL ([end-of-life]) on 2017-12-12. We sincerely
> apologize for our failure to provide timely notice of this event. 


Dear Qubes team and developers,

please don't apologize for your incognizable hard and
important work. ;)

Cheers,

rob
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[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Fedora 26 TemplateVM Upgrade

2018-01-07 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2018-01-06 18:15, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> Dear Qubes Community,
> 
> Fedora 25 reached EOL ([end-of-life]) on 2017-12-12. We sincerely
> apologize for our failure to provide timely notice of this event. It
> is strongly recommend that all Qubes users upgrade their Fedora 25
> TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs to Fedora 26 immediately. We provide
> step-by-step [upgrade instructions] for upgrading your existing
> TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs in-place on both Qubes 3.2 and Qubes
> 4.0. For a complete list of TemplateVM versions supported for your
> specific version of Qubes, see [Supported TemplateVM Versions].
> 
> We also provide fresh Fedora 26 TemplateVM packages through the
> official Qubes repositories, which you can get with the following
> commands (in dom0).
> 
> Standard Fedora 26 TemplateVM:
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26
> 
> [Minimal] Fedora 26 TemplateVM:
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26-minimal
> 
> After upgrading to a Fedora 26 TemplateVM, please remember to set all
> qubes that were using the old template to use the new one. The
> instructions to do this can be found in the [upgrade instructions]
> for your specific version.
> 
> Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version
> in dom0. If you're using Qubes 3.2 or 4.0, there is no dom0 OS
> upgrade available, since none is currently required. For details,
> please see our [Note on dom0 and EOL].
> 
> If you're using an older version of Qubes than 3.2, we strongly
> recommend that you upgrade to 3.2, as older versions are no longer
> supported.
> 
> 
> [end-of-life]: 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Maintenance_Schedule

Here are the reference links with complete URLs:

[upgrade instructions]: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-25-to-26/
[Supported TemplateVM Versions]: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#templatevms
[Minimal]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/fedora-minimal/
[Note on dom0 and EOL]: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol

> 
> This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/06/fedora-26-upgrade/
> 

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Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org

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[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: Fedora 26 TemplateVM Upgrade

2018-01-07 Thread bowabos
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:15:29 UTC, Andrew David Wong  wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> Dear Qubes Community,
> 
> Fedora 25 reached EOL ([end-of-life]) on 2017-12-12. We sincerely
> apologize for our failure to provide timely notice of this event. It
> is strongly recommend that all Qubes users upgrade their Fedora 25
> TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs to Fedora 26 immediately. We provide
> step-by-step [upgrade instructions] for upgrading your existing
> TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs in-place on both Qubes 3.2 and Qubes
> 4.0. For a complete list of TemplateVM versions supported for your
> specific version of Qubes, see [Supported TemplateVM Versions].
> 
> We also provide fresh Fedora 26 TemplateVM packages through the
> official Qubes repositories, which you can get with the following
> commands (in dom0).
> 
> Standard Fedora 26 TemplateVM:
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26
> 
> [Minimal] Fedora 26 TemplateVM:
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-26-minimal
> 
> After upgrading to a Fedora 26 TemplateVM, please remember to set all
> qubes that were using the old template to use the new one. The
> instructions to do this can be found in the [upgrade instructions]
> for your specific version.
> 
> Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version
> in dom0. If you're using Qubes 3.2 or 4.0, there is no dom0 OS
> upgrade available, since none is currently required. For details,
> please see our [Note on dom0 and EOL].
> 
> If you're using an older version of Qubes than 3.2, we strongly
> recommend that you upgrade to 3.2, as older versions are no longer
> supported.
> 
> 
> [end-of-life]: 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Maintenance_Schedule
> [upgrade instructions]: /doc/template/fedora/upgrade-25-to-26/
> [Supported TemplateVM Versions]: /doc/supported-versions/#templatevms
> [Minimal]: /doc/templates/fedora-minimal/
> [Note on dom0 and EOL]: /doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol
> 
> This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/06/fedora-26-upgrade/
> 
> - -- 
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
> 
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Hi,

FYI, In order to update the new template for the first time, I had to launch:
dnf update --best --allowerasing
there was a pb with yum-utils which was preventing the QubesManager method (dnf 
update --best) to work.

Regards,
Alex

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