[qubes-users] Re: UEFI secureboot issue

2017-08-28 Thread cooloutac
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 3:36:56 PM UTC-4, socks wrote: > > But Qubes still relies alot on user habits, and in fact the user learning > > new habits. So Qubes does require even more discipline then linux or > > windows, to get the full benefits of using it, imo. But I think the avg > >

[qubes-users] Re: UEFI secureboot issue

2017-08-28 Thread socks
But Qubes still relies alot on user habits, and in fact the user learning new habits. So Qubes does require even more discipline then linux or windows, to get the full benefits of using it, imo. But I think the avg person can easily get used to it. And like I said it took almost two year

[qubes-users] Re: UEFI secureboot issue

2017-08-28 Thread cooloutac
On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 1:30:39 AM UTC-4, qubester wrote: > On 08/20/2017 05:48 AM, cooloutac wrote: > > On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote: > >> On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, qubester wrote: > >> The guy Brad Spengler already warned dom0 and

[qubes-users] Re: UEFI secureboot issue

2017-08-21 Thread qubester
On 08/20/2017 05:48 AM, cooloutac wrote: On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote: On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, qubester wrote: The guy Brad Spengler already warned dom0 and vms can be compromised by bad system updates. And I believe this happened to

[qubes-users] Re: UEFI secureboot issue

2017-08-20 Thread yreb-qusw
On 08/20/2017 05:44 AM, cooloutac wrote: On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, qubester wrote: On 08/16/2017 05:55 AM, cooloutac wrote: I'm glad Bruce Schneier changed his tune and is no longer encouraging kids to learn how to hack in live environments, cause I think that breeds so

[qubes-users] Re: UEFI secureboot issue

2017-08-20 Thread cooloutac
On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote: > On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, qubester wrote: > > On 08/16/2017 05:55 AM, cooloutac wrote: > > > I'm glad Bruce Schneier changed his tune and is no longer encouraging > > > kids to learn how to hack in live envi

[qubes-users] Re: UEFI secureboot issue

2017-08-20 Thread cooloutac
On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 12:42:55 AM UTC-4, qubester wrote: > On 08/16/2017 05:55 AM, cooloutac wrote: > > I'm glad Bruce Schneier changed his tune and is no longer encouraging kids > > to learn how to hack in live environments, cause I think that breeds > > sociopaths, and is dangerous. (a

[qubes-users] Re: UEFI secureboot issue

2017-08-19 Thread qubester
On 08/16/2017 05:55 AM, cooloutac wrote: I'm glad Bruce Schneier changed his tune and is no longer encouraging kids to learn how to hack in live environments, cause I think that breeds sociopaths, and is dangerous. (and we are living in an epidemic) Now he has to stop calling secure boot secu