Re: [qubes-users] Re: is this time issue ever going to be properly fixed?
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:28:12PM +, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > Jon deps wrote on 4/5/19 10:21 AM: > > On 4/5/19 6:21 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > > > Jon deps wrote on 4/4/19 4:30 PM: > > > > > > > > on rebooting my taskbar time is for some reason not persisting Again ! > > > > I can try explaining but there seem to be too many moving > > > > parts to ever get this to stop breaking on random reboots ? > > > > > > > > > > > I know it was supposed to have been fixed at one point and I had > > > > been using a different template that wasn't broken, maybe I > > > > need to go find that manual fix and try it again though my > > > > debian-10 was just an upgrade not a new template , but maybe > > > > the upgrade broke ntp or something , doesn't explain why > > > > fedora-29 would be broken > > > > > > Yes, going back to fedora-28 or debian-9 should fix it. It's > > > possible the issue re-occurred in fedora-29. Try the same manual fix > > > there. > > > > > > Think Qubes' policy is only the current version of Debian is > > > supported, so if you choose to upgrade to 10 it's entirely possible > > > you'll break things. If I remember right, there will be an > > > announcement once 10 is supported and available for download as a > > > template. > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: is it a bad idea to upgrade (which I've done successfully to > > debian-10) if the templates are not available, guess I was thinking > > the fact that I was able to upgrade means there were templates there > > ... > > It's not a bad idea per se, just unsupported. That means there's a higher > chance of you running into problems with Qubes related utilities, and any > fixes or workarounds from the Qubes OS team will be low priority compared to > versions they actively support. However, if you are able to contribute by > testing out new versions and possibly developing fixes, that can save them > time! > Also, lets not forget that Debian10 is "testing" - it's liable to break, and doesnt get security updates like stable. There are issues with some Qubes packages in buster - fixing them hasnt been a high priority until the buster freeze. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190405234847.lw33b55rxnckduiu%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: is this time issue ever going to be properly fixed?
Jon deps wrote on 4/5/19 10:21 AM: On 4/5/19 6:21 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: Jon deps wrote on 4/4/19 4:30 PM: on rebooting my taskbar time is for some reason not persisting Again ! I can try explaining but there seem to be too many moving parts to ever get this to stop breaking on random reboots ? I know it was supposed to have been fixed at one point and I had been using a different template that wasn't broken, maybe I need to go find that manual fix and try it again though my debian-10 was just an upgrade not a new template , but maybe the upgrade broke ntp or something , doesn't explain why fedora-29 would be broken Yes, going back to fedora-28 or debian-9 should fix it. It's possible the issue re-occurred in fedora-29. Try the same manual fix there. Think Qubes' policy is only the current version of Debian is supported, so if you choose to upgrade to 10 it's entirely possible you'll break things. If I remember right, there will be an announcement once 10 is supported and available for download as a template. PS: is it a bad idea to upgrade (which I've done successfully to debian-10) if the templates are not available, guess I was thinking the fact that I was able to upgrade means there were templates there ... It's not a bad idea per se, just unsupported. That means there's a higher chance of you running into problems with Qubes related utilities, and any fixes or workarounds from the Qubes OS team will be low priority compared to versions they actively support. However, if you are able to contribute by testing out new versions and possibly developing fixes, that can save them time! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4353d655-f6f4-4857-773d-981745546189%40danwin1210.me. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: is this time issue ever going to be properly fixed?
On 4/5/19 6:21 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: Jon deps wrote on 4/4/19 4:30 PM: on rebooting my taskbar time is for some reason not persisting Again ! I can try explaining but there seem to be too many moving parts to ever get this to stop breaking on random reboots ? I know it was supposed to have been fixed at one point and I had been using a different template that wasn't broken, maybe I need to go find that manual fix and try it again though my debian-10 was just an upgrade not a new template , but maybe the upgrade broke ntp or something , doesn't explain why fedora-29 would be broken Yes, going back to fedora-28 or debian-9 should fix it. It's possible the issue re-occurred in fedora-29. Try the same manual fix there. Think Qubes' policy is only the current version of Debian is supported, so if you choose to upgrade to 10 it's entirely possible you'll break things. If I remember right, there will be an announcement once 10 is supported and available for download as a template. PS: is it a bad idea to upgrade (which I've done successfully to debian-10) if the templates are not available, guess I was thinking the fact that I was able to upgrade means there were templates there ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f51d5673-53fe-5c2e-aa3d-f2a975768145%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: is this time issue ever going to be properly fixed?
On 4/5/19 6:21 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: Jon deps wrote on 4/4/19 4:30 PM: on rebooting my taskbar time is for some reason not persisting Again ! I can try explaining but there seem to be too many moving parts to ever get this to stop breaking on random reboots ? I know it was supposed to have been fixed at one point and I had been using a different template that wasn't broken, maybe I need to go find that manual fix and try it again though my debian-10 was just an upgrade not a new template , but maybe the upgrade broke ntp or something , doesn't explain why fedora-29 would be broken Yes, going back to fedora-28 or debian-9 should fix it. It's possible the issue re-occurred in fedora-29. Try the same manual fix there. Think Qubes' policy is only the current version of Debian is supported, so if you choose to upgrade to 10 it's entirely possible you'll break things. If I remember right, there will be an announcement once 10 is supported and available for download as a template. appreciate the reply. ya, iirc, the templates being there sometimes precedes the announcements, so I went on ahead. guess my thinking was that once it was fixed it would stay fixed then afterwards, but guess I can run one template just for sys-net if I must fwiw, setting it manually with timedatectl and not even rebooting, and it ( the taskbar clock and what I think whonix wants ) seems to have reverted to UTC or some random hour actually ... as long as I know I can fix it, I'll sort it out I guess :/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9ae32bb0-467f-5db5-476f-d7210f98c29f%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
