Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-17 Thread David Hobach
On 02/17/2018 05:26 AM, WillyPillow wrote: I did some timing, and for PVH, my Fedora 26 VMs take about 30s, while Debian 9 takes about 45s. For HVM, qrexec usually times out (did not bother to adjust the timeout). P.S.: I recall I had similar issues with HVM in 4.0rc1, cf. https://github.com

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-16 Thread WillyPillow
Original Message On 2018年2月17日 10:30, pixel fairy wrote: On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 4:07:10 PM UTC-8, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > Yes, there is "xpti=false" option for Xen command line (xen.gz option in > grub, or options= line in xen.cfg for UEFI). tried that by edi

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-16 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Sat, February 17, 2018 2:30 am, pixel fairy wrote: > On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 4:07:10 PM UTC-8, Marek > Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > >> Yes, there is "xpti=false" option for Xen command line (xen.gz option >> in grub, or options= line in xen.cfg for UEFI). > > tried that by editing the

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-16 Thread pixel fairy
On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 4:07:10 PM UTC-8, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > Yes, there is "xpti=false" option for Xen command line (xen.gz option in > grub, or options= line in xen.cfg for UEFI). tried that by editing the multiboot /xen-4.8.3.gz line while booting. no change. maybe it

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-16 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:37:46AM -, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > On Thu, February 15, 2018 2:24 am, pixel fairy wrote: > > > at first i thought it was just the > > performance hit from mitigating speculation vulnerabilities, but others > >

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-16 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Thu, February 15, 2018 2:24 am, pixel fairy wrote: > at first i thought it was just the > performance hit from mitigating speculation vulnerabilities, but others > were reporting better performance in rc4 than rc3. Maybe they are on AMD. :) To rule out mitigations, I know Linux has an option

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-14 Thread David Hobach
On 02/15/2018 02:00 AM, pixel fairy wrote: On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 4:58:06 PM UTC-8, pixel fairy wrote: Fedora. just tried debian. 44.286s seconds. Forgot the hardware. i7-6700, 64gigs ddr4, supermicro c7z170-sq, onboard intel graphics. Got 13s with pvh on a laptop last built in

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-14 Thread WillyPillow
I also noticed similar slowdowns. I have no experience with rc3 (upgraded directly from 3.2), but your numbers seem to councide with my experience. Hardware is also pretty similar, namely Z170/6700K. --WillyPillow -- https://blog.nerde.pw/ PGP fingerprint = 6CCF 3FC7 32AC 9D83 D154 217F

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-14 Thread pixel fairy
pvh. the hvm ones took even longer. looked at a couple systemd-analyze, one of them had 10s for dkms and 40 for qubes-update-check, even though that one only took 25s to boot, at least according to dom0. could whatever tells dom0 a guest is up have run before that? will play with this more and

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-14 Thread Chris Laprise
On 02/14/2018 08:00 PM, pixel fairy wrote: On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 4:58:06 PM UTC-8, pixel fairy wrote: Fedora. just tried debian. 44.286s seconds. Forgot the hardware. i7-6700, 64gigs ddr4, supermicro c7z170-sq, onboard intel graphics. What virt_mode is used? Default is pvh; Tr

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-14 Thread pixel fairy
On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 4:58:06 PM UTC-8, pixel fairy wrote: > Fedora. just tried debian. 44.286s seconds. Forgot the hardware. i7-6700, 64gigs ddr4, supermicro c7z170-sq, onboard intel graphics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-us

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-14 Thread pixel fairy
Fedora. just tried debian. 44.286s seconds. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-14 Thread Chris Laprise
On 02/14/2018 05:47 PM, pixel fairy wrote: [user@dom0 ~]$ time qvm-start personal real0m23.517s user0m0.182s sys 0m0.065s [user@dom0 ~]$ time qvm-start alpha real0m23.801s user0m0.191s sys 0m0.056s [user@dom0 ~]$ time qvm-start alphax real0m32.831s user0m0.193s

[qubes-users] q4rc4 very slow. VMs take 23 - 33 seconds to start

2018-02-14 Thread pixel fairy
[user@dom0 ~]$ time qvm-start personal real0m23.517s user0m0.182s sys 0m0.065s [user@dom0 ~]$ time qvm-start alpha real0m23.801s user0m0.191s sys 0m0.056s [user@dom0 ~]$ time qvm-start alphax real0m32.831s user0m0.193s sys 0m0.059s starting with debug turned