Re: [qubes-users] Installation problem on Dell Inspiron R15 laptop
Am 04.08.23 um 08:36 schrieb Omri: Regarding the installation media - I installed it according the installation instructions described on the website (with Rufus) and I use windows 11 to make the installation media. Okay. According to what I understand, the bash command in the link compares the size of both the media and the file downloaded. I compared with the the "properties" window of the "File Explorer" and the media has almost 1 MB more than the ISO file I downloaded. Is it right? It is probably right that the "properties" window of the "File Explorer" shows a size (partition size?) that is a little bit bigger than the ISO file. At least, it makes sense. However, the bash command does not compare the sizes. It compares the relevant *content* on your installation medium with that of the ISO file. If they are different, a message like ``` Binary files - and Qubes-R4.1.0-x86_64.iso differ ``` will show up when the command terminates, else not. You may wonder why the content could be different. I don't know the answer but my experience is that sometimes there are faulty spots on a USB flash drive. This could lead to everything: Hanging installation, graphical glitches or even an unbootable device (in this case, the device is the mentioned USB flash drive). Do you have an installed Linux anywhere (or a live Linux)? You could use that in order to execute the appropriate command. Else: Does anybody know how to compare the installation medium and the ISO file under Windows 11? You could also just rewrite your installation medium with Rufus again and try installation again. Best regards, Tobias Killer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/da46484a-7a2f-5f7d-3220-b49d502d6631%40posteo.de.
Re: [qubes-users] Installation problem on Dell Inspiron R15 laptop
Hi, Thanks for your kind help. Regarding the installation media - I installed it according the installation instructions described on the website (with Rufus) and I use windows 11 to make the installation media. According to what I understand, the bash command in the link compares the size of both the media and the file downloaded. I compared with the the "properties" window of the "File Explorer" and the media has almost 1 MB more than the ISO file I downloaded. Is it right? Regarding the low RAM - I know it's not ideal but it's for educational purposes about the OS itself, nothing too demanding, so I don't expect it to run smoothly and I won't be using many softwares. With this little RAM, should I be able to install it and use it at all, or will it probably not going to work? Also, assuming I'll manage to install it, how bad will it behave? Should I give up on trying to install Qubes OS on this hardware at all? Thanks in advance, Omri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/97df843e-758f-48f9-b5df-bdbc5081e0f4n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Installation problem on Dell Inspiron R15 laptop
Am 01.08.23 um 16:29 schrieb Omri: Hello group, I'm trying for the last few days to install Qubes OS (no matter what version) on my old laptop. The laptop is: - Dell Inspiron R15 (bought around 2013) - CPU – Intel Core i7 - 3517U - VT-d ; VT-x ; EPT - included, according to Intel's website ( https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/65714/intel-core-i73517u-processor-4m-cache-up-to-3-00-ghz/specifications.html ( - On the BIOS though, there's no activation for any of these features specifically, but it has virtualization enable/unable in general. - RAM – 8 GB - Storage – 1 TB It currently runs Windows 10 with no apparent problems other than slow speed. When I tried to install Qubes, at first it looked ok but quickly becomes gibberish. [image: 3. first few lines (sorry the camera lost focus).png] img 1 - first few lines. the camera lost focus (sorry) but everything (4 lines) is properly readable and makes sense. [image: 4. text in dotted unreadable characters.png] img 2 - text appears in dotted characters of no language and doesn't make sense (it's not even Braille). Also, text cursor (underscore) appears oddly twice. [image: 5. more of this text. it is now accepts input.png] img 3 - more of this text... At the end it allows keyboard input but I can't know what input to enter. If pressing "Enter" key, it reshows the last line. * Between each image there's an empty black screen for about half a second. ** Couldn't attache images\videos It than accepts input, but I can't know what input to enter. I tried numerous versions, almost all of them; some did better, some less. Version 4.0 looked better than all the others and this is what is shown in the video. Other versions asked me first if I want to "test and install", "install" and so on, the normal menu. I tried to look in the documentation and in forums. In addition, I've asked in some forums – none of them helped. I'm new to Qubes so it's possible my answer is out there but I didn't notice. Any tip, lead or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Omri Hello, Is your installation medium fine? Maybe, you should check if there is no difference between the image on the installation medium and the original ISO image file. Do you use Linux? If yes, see https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/7030#issuecomment-1042944011 (Do not forget to replace `/dev/sda` with the actual installation medium and use the correct size and ISO image.) If you need more help on this, don't hesitate to ask! Best regards, Tobias Killer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/854c0d4e-52e2-2f8e-281c-3b49eb047d33%40posteo.de.
[qubes-users] Installation problem on Dell Inspiron R15 laptop
Hi! Actually you won't have much fun with only 8 GB RAM; 16 is probably OK, and 32 or more is nice. Remember that at least four operating systems have to run (Dom0, net, firewall, app). Kind regards, Ulrich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f3ffd60a-f3c7-41c0-a1a1-47fbe22ae596%40gmail.com.
[qubes-users] Installation problem -- cannot install boot loader
Folk, I am trying to install Qubes 4.0.1 onto a HP laptop (model 151-da000). It has a hybrid disk system, 250G SSD and 1 TB SATA. I had installed KDE neon on the box, overwriting the native Windows installation, using about 100G of the SSD drive. I am planning on making this a dual boot machine, with Qubes on the other 150 G of the SSD. So... I try to install 4.0.1 on this box. The first thing I noted was that the default for the root partition is "LVM thin provisioning." WHen I accepted that, I got the error that this was not possible and to make a different choice. I then chose just LVM, which it accepted. It then copied all the appropriate files and then gave me the error that the boot loader could not be installed, but did I want to copy the rest of the files anyway. I chose yes. When I rebooted the machine, I found that I could boot neither into KDE neon nor Qubes. So... I reinstalled KDE neon onto its partition. When I rebooted, Qubes came up in the Grub menu! I chose Qubes, and the initialization screen came up, but when I chose the default options, it hung with the error that it could not find the kernel file. KDE neon came up fine. So... I tried reinstalling Qubes again, only this time chose "native partition" instead of "LVM". Again, it said that it could not install the boot loader. I aborted it at that point because I had some work to do and could not take the time to reinstall KDE neon again. Any pointers? Thanks! billo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8839c74e53dc6e2e89e3bcb5b09adf34a13a8339.camel%40billoblog.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Installation Problem
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 15:32:41 -0400 Andy Powell wrote: >Well that clears it up! Thanks!!! > >Very surprising...guess I’ll go to another distro. Bye Qubes! > >> On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Fidel Ramos wrote: >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >>> On Monday, October 29, 2018 6:20 PM, Andy Powell wrote: >>> >>> Hello Qubes group! >>> >>> I’m trying to install Qubes but it fails after “Test this media & install >>> Qubes R4.0” at “Loading initrd.img” >>> >>> I’m on a 2012 MacBook Pro, running Parallels (which I guess may be the >>> issue, as 100% of your documentation refers to VirtualBox...do you support >>> other hypervisors?) >>> >>> I’ve followed everything as best I can and am stuck in an infinite loop. No >>> issues running other major OS VMs (Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, various Win, etc) >>> >>> Please help! Thank you! >>> >>> —Andy >> >> Running QubesOS inside a virtual machine is not supported, and as you found >> out it won't work in most configurations. >> >> If you want to try out Qubes in your machine you could install it into a USB >> drive or USB HDD (i.e. put the installer into a USB drive, boot the >> installer, then install into a *different* USB drive). It will be slower, >> but you can see if it works with your hardware. > Qubes is, essentially, a Xen hypervisor (bare metal virtual machine host). It has added complexity to provide a more complete separation of programs and data, and further compartmentalize different areas of sensitivity such as general web browsing, password safe keeping, etc. You can configure different application VMS for different purposes and keep your information more secure than even a general virtual machine host such as Unix/VirtualBox or Windows/VMWare. Attempting to run a Xen hypervisor inside of a VirtualBox or VMWare VM is illogical. Qubes is not just another flavor of Linux. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20181030065821.4e07e89f%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Installation Problem
On 10/29/2018 03:32 PM, Andy Powell wrote: Well that clears it up! Thanks!!! Very surprising...guess I’ll go to another distro. Bye Qubes! Its not surprising at all. Qubes is a bare-metal OS, and one of its core features is to isolate risk at the hardware level. This means on a Mac it _replaces_ OS X -- it doesn't run on it. A more logical arrangement would be to run OS X on Qubes which is the reverse of what you seek. -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9840f411-1cd4-2fe9-c7b4-0a4675db90ca%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Installation Problem
Well that clears it up! Thanks!!! Very surprising...guess I’ll go to another distro. Bye Qubes! > On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Fidel Ramos wrote: > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Monday, October 29, 2018 6:20 PM, Andy Powell wrote: >> >> Hello Qubes group! >> >> I’m trying to install Qubes but it fails after “Test this media & install >> Qubes R4.0” at “Loading initrd.img” >> >> I’m on a 2012 MacBook Pro, running Parallels (which I guess may be the >> issue, as 100% of your documentation refers to VirtualBox...do you support >> other hypervisors?) >> >> I’ve followed everything as best I can and am stuck in an infinite loop. No >> issues running other major OS VMs (Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, various Win, etc) >> >> Please help! Thank you! >> >> —Andy > > Running QubesOS inside a virtual machine is not supported, and as you found > out it won't work in most configurations. > > If you want to try out Qubes in your machine you could install it into a USB > drive or USB HDD (i.e. put the installer into a USB drive, boot the > installer, then install into a *different* USB drive). It will be slower, but > you can see if it works with your hardware. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1D4515B3-B7B7-4A85-B804-CEFED1D2EF58%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Installation Problem
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, October 29, 2018 6:20 PM, Andy Powell wrote: > Hello Qubes group! > > I’m trying to install Qubes but it fails after “Test this media & install > Qubes R4.0” at “Loading initrd.img” > > I’m on a 2012 MacBook Pro, running Parallels (which I guess may be the issue, > as 100% of your documentation refers to VirtualBox...do you support other > hypervisors?) > > I’ve followed everything as best I can and am stuck in an infinite loop. No > issues running other major OS VMs (Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, various Win, etc) > > Please help! Thank you! > > —Andy Running QubesOS inside a virtual machine is not supported, and as you found out it won't work in most configurations. If you want to try out Qubes in your machine you could install it into a USB drive or USB HDD (i.e. put the installer into a USB drive, boot the installer, then install into a *different* USB drive). It will be slower, but you can see if it works with your hardware. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7OYwu-82Jm_sf1Br-sHUg4tMLjtBjyghaP7jvVhfEjZYa_9dRIBAswahD7_dSnOv7qzPc2_dHrhzL8Nz-VfM6g%3D%3D%40fidelramos.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Installation Problem
Hello Qubes group! I’m trying to install Qubes but it fails after “Test this media & install Qubes R4.0” at “Loading initrd.img” I’m on a 2012 MacBook Pro, running Parallels (which I guess may be the issue, as 100% of your documentation refers to VirtualBox...do you support other hypervisors?) I’ve followed everything as best I can and am stuck in an infinite loop. No issues running other major OS VMs (Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, various Win, etc) Please help! Thank you! —Andy Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/D829D6ED-59B3-44DB-B4C6-D671E5FDC375%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Installation problem
Installation problem solved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/dcb56345-f7ba-4678-8108-54696edfc798%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Installation problem
Hi, I use gigabyte x99 ultra durable mobo. AMD radeon 480 graphiccard. I have installed Qubes om ssd M2 disk and it seemed allright and The graphical wizard told me to reboot. It wont start from ssd, no grub. No other OS. Can you help me? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c2faaaf4-ea94-42a5-ba70-89f597133ada%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
