[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-22 Thread hft . huurne
Op woensdag 19 april 2017 22:42:40 UTC+2 schreef hft.h...@gmail.com:
> Op woensdag 19 april 2017 09:49:25 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
> > On 04/19/2017 01:41 AM,
> > hft.huu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Op dinsdag 18 april 2017 21:03:12 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
> > >> On 04/18/2017 12:54 PM, HydraGene wrote:
> > >>> Hello all,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> So I updated Qubes kernel to version 4.4.55-11, but HCL report still
> > >>> says I am running version 4.4.14-11..
> > >>>
> > >>> I assume this isn't quiet right..
> > >>>
> > >>> My VM's are running the latest version according the the VM settings.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Can someone tell me how to run my latest installed kernel?
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, can someone help me remove the old kernel versions? Because they
> > >>> are kind of obsolete and a waste of space. I have 3 kernels installed
> > >>> now, I want to remove at least the oldest one, which is 4.4.14-11
> > >>>
> > >>> Would be happy if someone could help me out.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks and best regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> HydraGene
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Dumb question, but did you reboot? If not, do so. If you did, then
> > >> reboot again, and when the GRUB menu shows up, select "Advanced Options"
> > >> and see which kernel is at the top or pre-selected. It's *should* be
> > >> 4.4.55 but maybe in your case, it's not.
> > >>
> > >> As for the kernel limit, you can change installonly_limit in
> > >> /etc/dnf/dnf.conf in dom0 from 3 to 2 and the next time the kernel is
> > >> updated, it'll uninstall any kernels beyond the second one, or you could
> > >> manually uninstall the oldest kernel yourself using
> > >>
> > >> sudo dnf remove kernel- kernel-qubes-vm-
> > >>
> > >> but hold off on doing that for a bit as there might be a bug right now
> > >> in vm kernel uninstallation:
> > >>
> > >> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2757
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your reply. (I currently experience some issues with the 
> > > original mailservice.. So that's why I reply with my Google account now..)
> > > 
> > > Ofcourse I have rebooted, several times even.
> > > GRUB menu? What GRUB menu? lol I know GRUB, but I don't see any GRUB menu 
> > > when I boot.. I have an UEFI install. /boot/efi is in the EFI partition. 
> > > /root + swap and /home are on different encrypted partitions. 
> > > Should I have made another unencrypted /boot partition?
> > > 
> > > When I start my laptop, I see some text and one [FAILED] message saying 
> > > something about kernel. It disappears to fast to read fully. 
> > > Which log can I open to read these messages?
> > > 
> > > After this, Qubes boots to decrypt my drives and to the login screen. 
> > > Everything seems to work fine.
> > > 
> > > Even in dom0 Global Settings and via CLI it says kernel 4.4.55-11 is 
> > > running. But when I generate the HCL report or when I try to 
> > > reinstall/uninstall the kernel, it says it can't remove kernel 4.4.14-11 
> > > because I am booted into 4.4.14-11.
> > > 
> > > I'll try making GRUB work with encryption the Debian way when I get home 
> > > and see if GRUB then shows up. I'll keep you updated.
> > > I'll also just upload the full HCL report when I have time.
> > > 
> > > Would be nice if my questions could be answered in the meantime.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ah, my mistake. I don't have a UEFI capable machine so I don't know that
> > interface as well (I use legacy boot), but there must be an advance boot
> > setting in the boot loader to let you pick which kernel to boot, similar
> > to grub?
> > 
> > The definitive thing would be to open up a terminal in dom0 and run
> > 
> > uname -r
> > 
> > and it should display the kernel version that you're running. If it's
> > saying 4.4.55 but qubes-hcl-report says otherwise, then it'd be a bug in
> > qubes-hcl-report. That said, I run a 4.10 kernel in my dom0 and
> > qubes-hcl-report reports the correct kernel. Unfortunately, I don't have
> > a 4.4 kernel installed to test for myself, and I would but I'm having
> > some issues on my machine with the latest set of Qubes updates, which I
> > need to resolve first before I can get back to testing various things.
> 
> uname -r says version 4.4.14-11
> 
> Now I noticed some things. 
> 
> I tried the Debian way to get GRUB running when encrypted, but Qubes is 
> completely different. I can't find the file that I edited on Debian.
> 
> I don't see any choice. In BIOS selecting the Qubes efi to load is the only 
> option. Which made me think, what if I'd look into that drive?
> Booted into Qubes, I ran Thunar as root (the only way to view inside 
> /boot/efi)
> Once in /boot/efi/EFI/qubes I only see the 4.4.14-11 kernel..
> 
> I noticed /boot however had 2 grub directories, 1 loader folder and all 
> kernels installed. Looking at the files it seems like GRUB should be 
> functional if it would show up. My /boot is on the same encrypted partition 
> as /(root).
> 
> Is it possible that GRUB can't be loaded because it is on an encrypted 

[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-22 Thread hft . huurne
Op donderdag 20 april 2017 00:07:22 UTC+2 schreef cooloutac:
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 5:25:44 PM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote:
> > Maybe this is totally unrelated,  but I had to update dom0 twice.  First 
> > time it didn't really update.  Noticed the green download arrow again in 
> > qubes-manager hours later and that time it seemed to a big update.
> 
> Actually it wasn't even me, it was a family member, and I should of told them 
> to only notifiy me when they see a dom0 update,  sigh...  I've told them to 
> make sure they read what it says but this is kind of crazy.  
> 
> They told me they already updated dom0 they thought, and I thought ok you 
> normally see that in tempaltes where it updates but doesn't refresh cache or 
> something and still shows a green arrow,  but then you go to update and it 
> says nothing to do (cause you know it was already updated maeks sense).
> 
> But this was probably a failed update or it did something else.
> 
> Only other time this happened to me with Qubes I blame on a bad resume from 
> suspend that I didn't realize till too late, and the fact I am using an SSD.  
> Which I am learning very fast are prone to fk up your data.   Qubes got 
> borked after I did a failed Dom0 update and I had to install.
> 
> This time its different. We should make the Tor updates by default.  But then 
> again this is type of thing that would happen on the whonix template and I 
> always delete it immediately.  Always get failed key checks on that all the 
> time, weird update errors and it always has to do with the servers.  So I'm 
> just at a loss I rely on the experts some form of encrypted updates I think 
> would def be better then just a key check. I would prefer it not be tor, but 
> I guess thats better the nothing. Especially if people don't pay attention.  
> Anybody could miss it, especially when using the little xterm window when 
> updating with gui. lol.
> 
> I'm sorry for rambling about an unrelated topic.

After the first time updating I also saw again a green arrow. But with me it 
was like the first time it did a big update, but the second time it mentioned 
the system was already up-to-date. A restart resolved the "second arrow" 
problem. Since then haven't got the problem again. 
Also, I tried updating again and again, and my system says no new updates are 
available. So I think this was not the cause.

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-19 Thread cooloutac
On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 5:25:44 PM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote:
> Maybe this is totally unrelated,  but I had to update dom0 twice.  First time 
> it didn't really update.  Noticed the green download arrow again in 
> qubes-manager hours later and that time it seemed to a big update.

Actually it wasn't even me, it was a family member, and I should of told them 
to only notifiy me when they see a dom0 update,  sigh...  I've told them to 
make sure they read what it says but this is kind of crazy.  

They told me they already updated dom0 they thought, and I thought ok you 
normally see that in tempaltes where it updates but doesn't refresh cache or 
something and still shows a green arrow,  but then you go to update and it says 
nothing to do (cause you know it was already updated maeks sense).

But this was probably a failed update or it did something else.

Only other time this happened to me with Qubes I blame on a bad resume from 
suspend that I didn't realize till too late, and the fact I am using an SSD.  
Which I am learning very fast are prone to fk up your data.   Qubes got borked 
after I did a failed Dom0 update and I had to install.

This time its different. We should make the Tor updates by default.  But then 
again this is type of thing that would happen on the whonix template and I 
always delete it immediately.  Always get failed key checks on that all the 
time, weird update errors and it always has to do with the servers.  So I'm 
just at a loss I rely on the experts some form of encrypted updates I think 
would def be better then just a key check. I would prefer it not be tor, but I 
guess thats better the nothing. Especially if people don't pay attention.  
Anybody could miss it, especially when using the little xterm window when 
updating with gui. lol.

I'm sorry for rambling about an unrelated topic.

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-19 Thread cooloutac


Maybe this is totally unrelated,  but I had to update dom0 twice.  First time 
it didn't really update.  Noticed the green download arrow again in 
qubes-manager hours later and that time it seemed to a big update.

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-19 Thread hft . huurne
Op woensdag 19 april 2017 22:47:43 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
> On 04/19/2017 02:42 PM,
> hft.huu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Op woensdag 19 april 2017 09:49:25 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
> >> On 04/19/2017 01:41 AM,
> >> hft.huu...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Op dinsdag 18 april 2017 21:03:12 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
>  On 04/18/2017 12:54 PM, HydraGene wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> > So I updated Qubes kernel to version 4.4.55-11, but HCL report still
> > says I am running version 4.4.14-11..
> >
> > I assume this isn't quiet right..
> >
> > My VM's are running the latest version according the the VM settings.
> >
> >
> > Can someone tell me how to run my latest installed kernel?
> >
> > Also, can someone help me remove the old kernel versions? Because they
> > are kind of obsolete and a waste of space. I have 3 kernels installed
> > now, I want to remove at least the oldest one, which is 4.4.14-11
> >
> > Would be happy if someone could help me out.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards,
> >
> > HydraGene
> >
>  Dumb question, but did you reboot? If not, do so. If you did, then
>  reboot again, and when the GRUB menu shows up, select "Advanced Options"
>  and see which kernel is at the top or pre-selected. It's *should* be
>  4.4.55 but maybe in your case, it's not.
> 
>  As for the kernel limit, you can change installonly_limit in
>  /etc/dnf/dnf.conf in dom0 from 3 to 2 and the next time the kernel is
>  updated, it'll uninstall any kernels beyond the second one, or you could
>  manually uninstall the oldest kernel yourself using
> 
>  sudo dnf remove kernel- kernel-qubes-vm-
> 
>  but hold off on doing that for a bit as there might be a bug right now
>  in vm kernel uninstallation:
> 
>  https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2757
> >>> Thanks for your reply. (I currently experience some issues with the 
> >>> original mailservice.. So that's why I reply with my Google account now..)
> >>>
> >>> Ofcourse I have rebooted, several times even.
> >>> GRUB menu? What GRUB menu? lol I know GRUB, but I don't see any GRUB menu 
> >>> when I boot.. I have an UEFI install. /boot/efi is in the EFI partition. 
> >>> /root + swap and /home are on different encrypted partitions. 
> >>> Should I have made another unencrypted /boot partition?
> >>>
> >>> When I start my laptop, I see some text and one [FAILED] message saying 
> >>> something about kernel. It disappears to fast to read fully. 
> >>> Which log can I open to read these messages?
> >>>
> >>> After this, Qubes boots to decrypt my drives and to the login screen. 
> >>> Everything seems to work fine.
> >>>
> >>> Even in dom0 Global Settings and via CLI it says kernel 4.4.55-11 is 
> >>> running. But when I generate the HCL report or when I try to 
> >>> reinstall/uninstall the kernel, it says it can't remove kernel 4.4.14-11 
> >>> because I am booted into 4.4.14-11.
> >>>
> >>> I'll try making GRUB work with encryption the Debian way when I get home 
> >>> and see if GRUB then shows up. I'll keep you updated.
> >>> I'll also just upload the full HCL report when I have time.
> >>>
> >>> Would be nice if my questions could be answered in the meantime.
> >>>
> >> Ah, my mistake. I don't have a UEFI capable machine so I don't know that
> >> interface as well (I use legacy boot), but there must be an advance boot
> >> setting in the boot loader to let you pick which kernel to boot, similar
> >> to grub?
> >>
> >> The definitive thing would be to open up a terminal in dom0 and run
> >>
> >> uname -r
> >>
> >> and it should display the kernel version that you're running. If it's
> >> saying 4.4.55 but qubes-hcl-report says otherwise, then it'd be a bug in
> >> qubes-hcl-report. That said, I run a 4.10 kernel in my dom0 and
> >> qubes-hcl-report reports the correct kernel. Unfortunately, I don't have
> >> a 4.4 kernel installed to test for myself, and I would but I'm having
> >> some issues on my machine with the latest set of Qubes updates, which I
> >> need to resolve first before I can get back to testing various things.
> > uname -r says version 4.4.14-11
> >
> > Now I noticed some things. 
> >
> > I tried the Debian way to get GRUB running when encrypted, but Qubes is 
> > completely different. I can't find the file that I edited on Debian.
> >
> > I don't see any choice. In BIOS selecting the Qubes efi to load is the only 
> > option. Which made me think, what if I'd look into that drive?
> > Booted into Qubes, I ran Thunar as root (the only way to view inside 
> > /boot/efi)
> > Once in /boot/efi/EFI/qubes I only see the 4.4.14-11 kernel..
> >
> > I noticed /boot however had 2 grub directories, 1 loader folder and all 
> > kernels installed. Looking at the files it seems like GRUB should be 
> > functional if it would show up. My /boot is on the same encrypted partition 
> > as /(root).
> >
> > Is it 

[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-19 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 04/19/2017 02:42 PM,
hft.huu...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op woensdag 19 april 2017 09:49:25 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
>> On 04/19/2017 01:41 AM,
>> hft.huu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Op dinsdag 18 april 2017 21:03:12 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
 On 04/18/2017 12:54 PM, HydraGene wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
> So I updated Qubes kernel to version 4.4.55-11, but HCL report still
> says I am running version 4.4.14-11..
>
> I assume this isn't quiet right..
>
> My VM's are running the latest version according the the VM settings.
>
>
> Can someone tell me how to run my latest installed kernel?
>
> Also, can someone help me remove the old kernel versions? Because they
> are kind of obsolete and a waste of space. I have 3 kernels installed
> now, I want to remove at least the oldest one, which is 4.4.14-11
>
> Would be happy if someone could help me out.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
>
> HydraGene
>
 Dumb question, but did you reboot? If not, do so. If you did, then
 reboot again, and when the GRUB menu shows up, select "Advanced Options"
 and see which kernel is at the top or pre-selected. It's *should* be
 4.4.55 but maybe in your case, it's not.

 As for the kernel limit, you can change installonly_limit in
 /etc/dnf/dnf.conf in dom0 from 3 to 2 and the next time the kernel is
 updated, it'll uninstall any kernels beyond the second one, or you could
 manually uninstall the oldest kernel yourself using

 sudo dnf remove kernel- kernel-qubes-vm-

 but hold off on doing that for a bit as there might be a bug right now
 in vm kernel uninstallation:

 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2757
>>> Thanks for your reply. (I currently experience some issues with the 
>>> original mailservice.. So that's why I reply with my Google account now..)
>>>
>>> Ofcourse I have rebooted, several times even.
>>> GRUB menu? What GRUB menu? lol I know GRUB, but I don't see any GRUB menu 
>>> when I boot.. I have an UEFI install. /boot/efi is in the EFI partition. 
>>> /root + swap and /home are on different encrypted partitions. 
>>> Should I have made another unencrypted /boot partition?
>>>
>>> When I start my laptop, I see some text and one [FAILED] message saying 
>>> something about kernel. It disappears to fast to read fully. 
>>> Which log can I open to read these messages?
>>>
>>> After this, Qubes boots to decrypt my drives and to the login screen. 
>>> Everything seems to work fine.
>>>
>>> Even in dom0 Global Settings and via CLI it says kernel 4.4.55-11 is 
>>> running. But when I generate the HCL report or when I try to 
>>> reinstall/uninstall the kernel, it says it can't remove kernel 4.4.14-11 
>>> because I am booted into 4.4.14-11.
>>>
>>> I'll try making GRUB work with encryption the Debian way when I get home 
>>> and see if GRUB then shows up. I'll keep you updated.
>>> I'll also just upload the full HCL report when I have time.
>>>
>>> Would be nice if my questions could be answered in the meantime.
>>>
>> Ah, my mistake. I don't have a UEFI capable machine so I don't know that
>> interface as well (I use legacy boot), but there must be an advance boot
>> setting in the boot loader to let you pick which kernel to boot, similar
>> to grub?
>>
>> The definitive thing would be to open up a terminal in dom0 and run
>>
>> uname -r
>>
>> and it should display the kernel version that you're running. If it's
>> saying 4.4.55 but qubes-hcl-report says otherwise, then it'd be a bug in
>> qubes-hcl-report. That said, I run a 4.10 kernel in my dom0 and
>> qubes-hcl-report reports the correct kernel. Unfortunately, I don't have
>> a 4.4 kernel installed to test for myself, and I would but I'm having
>> some issues on my machine with the latest set of Qubes updates, which I
>> need to resolve first before I can get back to testing various things.
> uname -r says version 4.4.14-11
>
> Now I noticed some things. 
>
> I tried the Debian way to get GRUB running when encrypted, but Qubes is 
> completely different. I can't find the file that I edited on Debian.
>
> I don't see any choice. In BIOS selecting the Qubes efi to load is the only 
> option. Which made me think, what if I'd look into that drive?
> Booted into Qubes, I ran Thunar as root (the only way to view inside 
> /boot/efi)
> Once in /boot/efi/EFI/qubes I only see the 4.4.14-11 kernel..
>
> I noticed /boot however had 2 grub directories, 1 loader folder and all 
> kernels installed. Looking at the files it seems like GRUB should be 
> functional if it would show up. My /boot is on the same encrypted partition 
> as /(root).
>
> Is it possible that GRUB can't be loaded because it is on an encrypted drive? 
> I had to manually edit GRUB config with Debian Jessie too in order to use 
> GRUB.
>
> Secondly, what if I manually copy the new kernel over the old one in 
> /boot/efi/EFI/qubes and edit the xen.cfg to 

[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-19 Thread hft . huurne
Op woensdag 19 april 2017 09:49:25 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
> On 04/19/2017 01:41 AM,
> hft.huu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Op dinsdag 18 april 2017 21:03:12 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
> >> On 04/18/2017 12:54 PM, HydraGene wrote:
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So I updated Qubes kernel to version 4.4.55-11, but HCL report still
> >>> says I am running version 4.4.14-11..
> >>>
> >>> I assume this isn't quiet right..
> >>>
> >>> My VM's are running the latest version according the the VM settings.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Can someone tell me how to run my latest installed kernel?
> >>>
> >>> Also, can someone help me remove the old kernel versions? Because they
> >>> are kind of obsolete and a waste of space. I have 3 kernels installed
> >>> now, I want to remove at least the oldest one, which is 4.4.14-11
> >>>
> >>> Would be happy if someone could help me out.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and best regards,
> >>>
> >>> HydraGene
> >>>
> >>
> >> Dumb question, but did you reboot? If not, do so. If you did, then
> >> reboot again, and when the GRUB menu shows up, select "Advanced Options"
> >> and see which kernel is at the top or pre-selected. It's *should* be
> >> 4.4.55 but maybe in your case, it's not.
> >>
> >> As for the kernel limit, you can change installonly_limit in
> >> /etc/dnf/dnf.conf in dom0 from 3 to 2 and the next time the kernel is
> >> updated, it'll uninstall any kernels beyond the second one, or you could
> >> manually uninstall the oldest kernel yourself using
> >>
> >> sudo dnf remove kernel- kernel-qubes-vm-
> >>
> >> but hold off on doing that for a bit as there might be a bug right now
> >> in vm kernel uninstallation:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2757
> > 
> > Thanks for your reply. (I currently experience some issues with the 
> > original mailservice.. So that's why I reply with my Google account now..)
> > 
> > Ofcourse I have rebooted, several times even.
> > GRUB menu? What GRUB menu? lol I know GRUB, but I don't see any GRUB menu 
> > when I boot.. I have an UEFI install. /boot/efi is in the EFI partition. 
> > /root + swap and /home are on different encrypted partitions. 
> > Should I have made another unencrypted /boot partition?
> > 
> > When I start my laptop, I see some text and one [FAILED] message saying 
> > something about kernel. It disappears to fast to read fully. 
> > Which log can I open to read these messages?
> > 
> > After this, Qubes boots to decrypt my drives and to the login screen. 
> > Everything seems to work fine.
> > 
> > Even in dom0 Global Settings and via CLI it says kernel 4.4.55-11 is 
> > running. But when I generate the HCL report or when I try to 
> > reinstall/uninstall the kernel, it says it can't remove kernel 4.4.14-11 
> > because I am booted into 4.4.14-11.
> > 
> > I'll try making GRUB work with encryption the Debian way when I get home 
> > and see if GRUB then shows up. I'll keep you updated.
> > I'll also just upload the full HCL report when I have time.
> > 
> > Would be nice if my questions could be answered in the meantime.
> > 
> 
> Ah, my mistake. I don't have a UEFI capable machine so I don't know that
> interface as well (I use legacy boot), but there must be an advance boot
> setting in the boot loader to let you pick which kernel to boot, similar
> to grub?
> 
> The definitive thing would be to open up a terminal in dom0 and run
> 
> uname -r
> 
> and it should display the kernel version that you're running. If it's
> saying 4.4.55 but qubes-hcl-report says otherwise, then it'd be a bug in
> qubes-hcl-report. That said, I run a 4.10 kernel in my dom0 and
> qubes-hcl-report reports the correct kernel. Unfortunately, I don't have
> a 4.4 kernel installed to test for myself, and I would but I'm having
> some issues on my machine with the latest set of Qubes updates, which I
> need to resolve first before I can get back to testing various things.

uname -r says version 4.4.14-11

Now I noticed some things. 

I tried the Debian way to get GRUB running when encrypted, but Qubes is 
completely different. I can't find the file that I edited on Debian.

I don't see any choice. In BIOS selecting the Qubes efi to load is the only 
option. Which made me think, what if I'd look into that drive?
Booted into Qubes, I ran Thunar as root (the only way to view inside /boot/efi)
Once in /boot/efi/EFI/qubes I only see the 4.4.14-11 kernel..

I noticed /boot however had 2 grub directories, 1 loader folder and all kernels 
installed. Looking at the files it seems like GRUB should be functional if it 
would show up. My /boot is on the same encrypted partition as /(root).

Is it possible that GRUB can't be loaded because it is on an encrypted drive? I 
had to manually edit GRUB config with Debian Jessie too in order to use GRUB.

Secondly, what if I manually copy the new kernel over the old one in 
/boot/efi/EFI/qubes and edit the xen.cfg to match the version number? Would 
that work? Or is there a very high chance of breaking my 

[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-19 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 04/19/2017 01:41 AM,
hft.huu...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op dinsdag 18 april 2017 21:03:12 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
>> On 04/18/2017 12:54 PM, HydraGene wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>> So I updated Qubes kernel to version 4.4.55-11, but HCL report still
>>> says I am running version 4.4.14-11..
>>>
>>> I assume this isn't quiet right..
>>>
>>> My VM's are running the latest version according the the VM settings.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me how to run my latest installed kernel?
>>>
>>> Also, can someone help me remove the old kernel versions? Because they
>>> are kind of obsolete and a waste of space. I have 3 kernels installed
>>> now, I want to remove at least the oldest one, which is 4.4.14-11
>>>
>>> Would be happy if someone could help me out.
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>>
>>> HydraGene
>>>
>>
>> Dumb question, but did you reboot? If not, do so. If you did, then
>> reboot again, and when the GRUB menu shows up, select "Advanced Options"
>> and see which kernel is at the top or pre-selected. It's *should* be
>> 4.4.55 but maybe in your case, it's not.
>>
>> As for the kernel limit, you can change installonly_limit in
>> /etc/dnf/dnf.conf in dom0 from 3 to 2 and the next time the kernel is
>> updated, it'll uninstall any kernels beyond the second one, or you could
>> manually uninstall the oldest kernel yourself using
>>
>> sudo dnf remove kernel- kernel-qubes-vm-
>>
>> but hold off on doing that for a bit as there might be a bug right now
>> in vm kernel uninstallation:
>>
>> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2757
> 
> Thanks for your reply. (I currently experience some issues with the original 
> mailservice.. So that's why I reply with my Google account now..)
> 
> Ofcourse I have rebooted, several times even.
> GRUB menu? What GRUB menu? lol I know GRUB, but I don't see any GRUB menu 
> when I boot.. I have an UEFI install. /boot/efi is in the EFI partition. 
> /root + swap and /home are on different encrypted partitions. 
> Should I have made another unencrypted /boot partition?
> 
> When I start my laptop, I see some text and one [FAILED] message saying 
> something about kernel. It disappears to fast to read fully. 
> Which log can I open to read these messages?
> 
> After this, Qubes boots to decrypt my drives and to the login screen. 
> Everything seems to work fine.
> 
> Even in dom0 Global Settings and via CLI it says kernel 4.4.55-11 is running. 
> But when I generate the HCL report or when I try to reinstall/uninstall the 
> kernel, it says it can't remove kernel 4.4.14-11 because I am booted into 
> 4.4.14-11.
> 
> I'll try making GRUB work with encryption the Debian way when I get home and 
> see if GRUB then shows up. I'll keep you updated.
> I'll also just upload the full HCL report when I have time.
> 
> Would be nice if my questions could be answered in the meantime.
> 

Ah, my mistake. I don't have a UEFI capable machine so I don't know that
interface as well (I use legacy boot), but there must be an advance boot
setting in the boot loader to let you pick which kernel to boot, similar
to grub?

The definitive thing would be to open up a terminal in dom0 and run

uname -r

and it should display the kernel version that you're running. If it's
saying 4.4.55 but qubes-hcl-report says otherwise, then it'd be a bug in
qubes-hcl-report. That said, I run a 4.10 kernel in my dom0 and
qubes-hcl-report reports the correct kernel. Unfortunately, I don't have
a 4.4 kernel installed to test for myself, and I would but I'm having
some issues on my machine with the latest set of Qubes updates, which I
need to resolve first before I can get back to testing various things.


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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-19 Thread hft . huurne
Op dinsdag 18 april 2017 21:03:12 UTC+2 schreef Reg Tiangha:
> On 04/18/2017 12:54 PM, HydraGene wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> > So I updated Qubes kernel to version 4.4.55-11, but HCL report still
> > says I am running version 4.4.14-11..
> >
> > I assume this isn't quiet right..
> >
> > My VM's are running the latest version according the the VM settings.
> >
> >
> > Can someone tell me how to run my latest installed kernel?
> >
> > Also, can someone help me remove the old kernel versions? Because they
> > are kind of obsolete and a waste of space. I have 3 kernels installed
> > now, I want to remove at least the oldest one, which is 4.4.14-11
> >
> > Would be happy if someone could help me out.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards,
> >
> > HydraGene
> >
> 
> Dumb question, but did you reboot? If not, do so. If you did, then
> reboot again, and when the GRUB menu shows up, select "Advanced Options"
> and see which kernel is at the top or pre-selected. It's *should* be
> 4.4.55 but maybe in your case, it's not.
> 
> As for the kernel limit, you can change installonly_limit in
> /etc/dnf/dnf.conf in dom0 from 3 to 2 and the next time the kernel is
> updated, it'll uninstall any kernels beyond the second one, or you could
> manually uninstall the oldest kernel yourself using
> 
> sudo dnf remove kernel- kernel-qubes-vm-
> 
> but hold off on doing that for a bit as there might be a bug right now
> in vm kernel uninstallation:
> 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2757

Thanks for your reply. (I currently experience some issues with the original 
mailservice.. So that's why I reply with my Google account now..)

Ofcourse I have rebooted, several times even.
GRUB menu? What GRUB menu? lol I know GRUB, but I don't see any GRUB menu when 
I boot.. I have an UEFI install. /boot/efi is in the EFI partition. /root + 
swap and /home are on different encrypted partitions. 
Should I have made another unencrypted /boot partition?

When I start my laptop, I see some text and one [FAILED] message saying 
something about kernel. It disappears to fast to read fully. 
Which log can I open to read these messages?

After this, Qubes boots to decrypt my drives and to the login screen. 
Everything seems to work fine.

Even in dom0 Global Settings and via CLI it says kernel 4.4.55-11 is running. 
But when I generate the HCL report or when I try to reinstall/uninstall the 
kernel, it says it can't remove kernel 4.4.14-11 because I am booted into 
4.4.14-11.

I'll try making GRUB work with encryption the Debian way when I get home and 
see if GRUB then shows up. I'll keep you updated.
I'll also just upload the full HCL report when I have time.

Would be nice if my questions could be answered in the meantime.

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not loading latest installed kernel...? + How to remove old kernel versions?

2017-04-18 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 04/18/2017 12:54 PM, HydraGene wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
> So I updated Qubes kernel to version 4.4.55-11, but HCL report still
> says I am running version 4.4.14-11..
>
> I assume this isn't quiet right..
>
> My VM's are running the latest version according the the VM settings.
>
>
> Can someone tell me how to run my latest installed kernel?
>
> Also, can someone help me remove the old kernel versions? Because they
> are kind of obsolete and a waste of space. I have 3 kernels installed
> now, I want to remove at least the oldest one, which is 4.4.14-11
>
> Would be happy if someone could help me out.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
>
> HydraGene
>

Dumb question, but did you reboot? If not, do so. If you did, then
reboot again, and when the GRUB menu shows up, select "Advanced Options"
and see which kernel is at the top or pre-selected. It's *should* be
4.4.55 but maybe in your case, it's not.

As for the kernel limit, you can change installonly_limit in
/etc/dnf/dnf.conf in dom0 from 3 to 2 and the next time the kernel is
updated, it'll uninstall any kernels beyond the second one, or you could
manually uninstall the oldest kernel yourself using

sudo dnf remove kernel- kernel-qubes-vm-

but hold off on doing that for a bit as there might be a bug right now
in vm kernel uninstallation:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2757

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