Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-08 Thread Drew White
On Saturday, 7 April 2018 22:26:18 UTC+10, brenda...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 9:27:11 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > > On Saturday, 7 April 2018 10:41:13 UTC+10, Thierry Laurion wrote: > > > You seem to have misunderstood. Ivy bridge and beyond on the Intel side > > > will

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-07 Thread cooloutac
ya checked hcl report on my i5 and it says slat is enabled. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-07 Thread brendan . hoar
On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 9:03:39 AM UTC-4, Thierry Laurion wrote: > Le sam. 7 avr. 2018 08:26, a écrit : > On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 9:27:11 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > > I only went on what I was told. I have Ivy Bridge, and they don't have SLAT. > > Which CPU in

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-07 Thread Thierry Laurion
Le sam. 7 avr. 2018 08:26, a écrit : > On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 9:27:11 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > > On Saturday, 7 April 2018 10:41:13 UTC+10, Thierry Laurion wrote: > > > You seem to have misunderstood. Ivy bridge and beyond on the Intel > side will provide you

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-07 Thread brendan . hoar
On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 9:27:11 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > On Saturday, 7 April 2018 10:41:13 UTC+10, Thierry Laurion wrote: > > You seem to have misunderstood. Ivy bridge and beyond on the Intel side > > will provide you with SLAT capabilities, IOMMU and virtualization, which is > > all

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-06 Thread cooloutac
On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 9:27:11 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > On Saturday, 7 April 2018 10:41:13 UTC+10, Thierry Laurion wrote: > > You seem to have misunderstood. Ivy bridge and beyond on the Intel side > > will provide you with SLAT capabilities, IOMMU and virtualization, which is > > all

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-06 Thread Drew White
On Saturday, 7 April 2018 10:41:13 UTC+10, Thierry Laurion wrote: > You seem to have misunderstood. Ivy bridge and beyond on the Intel side will > provide you with SLAT capabilities, IOMMU and virtualization, which is all > that is required.  A x230 with 16gb ram and a i5 or i7 will provide you

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-06 Thread Thierry Laurion
Sorry for autocorrect. Le ven. 6 avr. 2018 20:40, Thierry Laurion a écrit : > > > Le ven. 6 avr. 2018 20:11, Drew White a écrit : > >> On Thursday, 5 April 2018 17:52:09 UTC+10, tai...@gmx.com wrote: >> > On 04/04/2018 10:59 PM, Drew White

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-06 Thread Thierry Laurion
Le ven. 6 avr. 2018 20:11, Drew White a écrit : > On Thursday, 5 April 2018 17:52:09 UTC+10, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > > On 04/04/2018 10:59 PM, Drew White wrote: > > > > > I can't say anything about Qubes 4 because their restrictions on it > require the latest CPUs and all

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-06 Thread Drew White
On Thursday, 5 April 2018 17:52:09 UTC+10, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 04/04/2018 10:59 PM, Drew White wrote: > > > I can't say anything about Qubes 4 because their restrictions on it require > > the latest CPUs and all (apparently) with certain technology that pre-2017 > > CPUs don't have. (Or

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-05 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 04/04/2018 10:59 PM, Drew White wrote: > I can't say anything about Qubes 4 because their restrictions on it require > the latest CPUs and all (apparently) with certain technology that pre-2017 > CPUs don't have. (Or so I read). 2017? what? where did you read that? (I have a good idea

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-04 Thread Drew White
On Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:21:50 UTC+10, cooloutac wrote: > So I think what you are saying is amount of ram is way more important then > amount of cpu cores? Which makes sense to me. That is correct. The requirements of things, I use static RAM, not variable. For Linux like Fedora 22+ they

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-04 Thread cooloutac
On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 11:21:50 AM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote: > On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 1:15:42 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > > I personally use one PC and one laptop. > > PC is a Dell T5500, 12 threads, 24 GB RAM. I can upgrade that to 24 threads > > and 128 GB RAM, I run 14 Guests

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-04 Thread cooloutac
On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 1:15:42 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > I personally use one PC and one laptop. > PC is a Dell T5500, 12 threads, 24 GB RAM. I can upgrade that to 24 threads > and 128 GB RAM, I run 14 Guests at a time often. I rarely use all the CPU. > RAM runs out if I start too

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-04 Thread Franz
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Drew White wrote: > I personally use one PC and one laptop. > PC is a Dell T5500, 12 threads, 24 GB RAM. I can upgrade that to 24 > threads and 128 GB RAM, I run 14 Guests at a time often. I rarely use all > the CPU. RAM runs out if I start

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-03 Thread Drew White
I personally use one PC and one laptop. PC is a Dell T5500, 12 threads, 24 GB RAM. I can upgrade that to 24 threads and 128 GB RAM, I run 14 Guests at a time often. I rarely use all the CPU. RAM runs out if I start too many. X5680 with DDR3 RAM. Laptop is an HP EliteBook 8460p, 4 threads and 8

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Wed, April 4, 2018 1:12 am, Ted Brenner wrote: > What do people recommend for CPU? With running a lot of VMs, it would > seem having a lot of cores could be helpful. Is that accurate? Or is that > not really necessary? It's nice to have but often usage patterns don't require it because you're

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-04-03 Thread Ted Brenner
What do people recommend for CPU? With running a lot of VMs, it would seem having a lot of cores could be helpful. Is that accurate? Or is that not really necessary? On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 4:51 PM, cooloutac wrote: > On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 5:42:16 PM UTC-4,

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-03-24 Thread cooloutac
On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 5:42:16 PM UTC-4, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 03/22/2018 10:01 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > > also just wanted to say the other reason I suggest the legacy ps2 port is > > if you plan to use usb 3.0 ports most boards route all the usb controllers > > into one when 3.0

Re: [qubes-users] Re: desktop recommendations?

2018-03-23 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/22/2018 10:01 PM, cooloutac wrote: > also just wanted to say the other reason I suggest the legacy ps2 port is if > you plan to use usb 3.0 ports most boards route all the usb controllers into > one when 3.0 controller (xhci) is enabled. so you would need to use the usb > proxy and it