Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
> Ah, ok. I submitted a PR and then we got bogged down with handling of > the Trolltech.conf. I havent returned to it since. > > I'll have another look and we'll get the xenial build in there That's fantastic. Thanks very much! Best regards, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2260acec-9151-4092-be85-b648823c57a3%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
Am 26.10.2016 um 00:17 schrieb Unman: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:17:44AM +0200, Robert Mittendorf wrote: >> What would be the advantage of a Ubuntu-template compared to the Debian >> template? >> (No offense, I'm just curious) >> > No offense taken. > > Comparing Stable with LTS, probably not that great a difference. Perhaps > Ubuntu is slightly easier out of the box and the core software is well > integrated. > Comparing stable with Ubuntu releases, Ubuntu will generally have newer > versions and better driver support. Even Arch was already a major improvement for me... I've baesd most of my machines on a (rather easy to produce) arch template... Achim > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/53fea010-1d22-2210-c9dc-deb1817bcd79%40noses.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:17:44AM +0200, Robert Mittendorf wrote: > What would be the advantage of a Ubuntu-template compared to the Debian > template? > (No offense, I'm just curious) > No offense taken. Comparing Stable with LTS, probably not that great a difference. Perhaps Ubuntu is slightly easier out of the box and the core software is well integrated. Comparing stable with Ubuntu releases, Ubuntu will generally have newer versions and better driver support. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161025221743.GB22624%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:24:12AM -0700, richard.g...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Last night I built Xenial - I'll put in a PR today, > > > > Has this happened? I'd like to build a 16.04 template, but the Qubes > > Builder in the offical QubesOS repository does not offer Xenial - neither > > does the one in Mareks repository... > > I'd also be very interested in this. I have created a Vivid template and > upgraded that to Wily successfully (Wily is already out of support, however), > but had no luck with upgrading from Wily to Xenial. The upgrades does work > and the VM boots successfully, but the Xorg install is broken so the Qubes > GUI integration does not work - it complains about the ABI major version not > matching. > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > > Richard > Ah, ok. I submitted a PR and then we got bogged down with handling of the Trolltech.conf. I havent returned to it since. I'll have another look and we'll get the xenial build in there unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161025220013.GA22624%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
What would be the advantage of a Ubuntu-template compared to the Debian template? (No offense, I'm just curious) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/60a48ab0-18a1-13f8-4815-54f9c780fe05%40digitrace.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
> > > > Last night I built Xenial - I'll put in a PR today, > > Has this happened? I'd like to build a 16.04 template, but the Qubes Builder > in the offical QubesOS repository does not offer Xenial - neither does the > one in Mareks repository... I'd also be very interested in this. I have created a Vivid template and upgraded that to Wily successfully (Wily is already out of support, however), but had no luck with upgrading from Wily to Xenial. The upgrades does work and the VM boots successfully, but the Xorg install is broken so the Qubes GUI integration does not work - it complains about the ABI major version not matching. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5df82ce7-0041-47a9-8caa-182976b359e8%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 1:30:46 AM UTC+2, Unman wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 12:39:00AM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:23:42PM +0100, Unman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:33:47PM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > > > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:29:19PM +0200, Achim Patzner wrote: > > > > > Am 10.06.2016 um 23:30 schrieb Unman: > > > > > > > > > > >> Has anybody had success getting a Ubuntu template compiled? Even > > > > > >> at 16.04? > > > > > > If you mean "at all", then some months back I built a 14.04. Haven't > > > > > > tried anything more recent. > > > > > > > > > > Right now I'm not able to even compile it even after getting a fresh > > > > > building environment... I guess I'll have to get some more exercise, > > > > > then, unless someone is generating a working setup. > > > > > > > > I think currently builder-debian support at most vivid. But it shouldn't > > > > be hard to add anything newer. > > > > > > It isn't. > > > Last night I built Xenial - I'll put in a PR today, Has this happened? I'd like to build a 16.04 template, but the Qubes Builder in the offical QubesOS repository does not offer Xenial - neither does the one in Mareks repository... Regards, Frank > > > > How have you solved problem with /etc/xdg/Trolltech.conf conflict? > > Put the Qubes one in ~/.config and in skel. > I think that should work ok generally, except for switching VM to xenial > template. Then it's just ordinary Trolltech.conf troubles. > > > > > > although there's > > > some stuff that needs tidying up - why don't the versions share the same > > > keyring? > > > > If Canonical decide to to change the key, to be able to support that. > > But if the keyring is the same for now, it can be symlinked. > > > > > Why identical package lists? > > > > Actually, for Xenial you'll probably need slightly different package > > list, as there is no linux-firmware-nonfree package anymore. > > Yes, but most of the others are just copies > > > But if it turns out to be the same, it can be symlinked. The same > > applies to appmenus. > > > > > Looks like a fair bit of > > > duplication for reasons that escape me. > > > > > > Also, is there a need to retain the old versions? My preference would be > > > to just have LTS. Thoughts on this? > > > > Yes, good idea. Or maybe two of them - latest LTS and latest release in > > general. > > I'll clean this up if that's ok. > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > > Invisible Things Lab > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/492d63bf-81fa-429e-b7ef-2b2e865a3598%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 12:39:00AM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:23:42PM +0100, Unman wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:33:47PM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:29:19PM +0200, Achim Patzner wrote: > > > > Am 10.06.2016 um 23:30 schrieb Unman: > > > > > > > > >> Has anybody had success getting a Ubuntu template compiled? Even at > > > > >> 16.04? > > > > > If you mean "at all", then some months back I built a 14.04. Haven't > > > > > tried anything more recent. > > > > > > > > Right now I'm not able to even compile it even after getting a fresh > > > > building environment... I guess I'll have to get some more exercise, > > > > then, unless someone is generating a working setup. > > > > > > I think currently builder-debian support at most vivid. But it shouldn't > > > be hard to add anything newer. > > > > It isn't. > > Last night I built Xenial - I'll put in a PR today, > > How have you solved problem with /etc/xdg/Trolltech.conf conflict? Put the Qubes one in ~/.config and in skel. I think that should work ok generally, except for switching VM to xenial template. Then it's just ordinary Trolltech.conf troubles. > > > although there's > > some stuff that needs tidying up - why don't the versions share the same > > keyring? > > If Canonical decide to to change the key, to be able to support that. > But if the keyring is the same for now, it can be symlinked. > > > Why identical package lists? > > Actually, for Xenial you'll probably need slightly different package > list, as there is no linux-firmware-nonfree package anymore. Yes, but most of the others are just copies > But if it turns out to be the same, it can be symlinked. The same > applies to appmenus. > > > Looks like a fair bit of > > duplication for reasons that escape me. > > > > Also, is there a need to retain the old versions? My preference would be > > to just have LTS. Thoughts on this? > > Yes, good idea. Or maybe two of them - latest LTS and latest release in > general. I'll clean this up if that's ok. > > -- > Best Regards, > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > Invisible Things Lab > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160620233045.GA3681%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:33:47PM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:29:19PM +0200, Achim Patzner wrote: > > Am 10.06.2016 um 23:30 schrieb Unman: > > > > >> Has anybody had success getting a Ubuntu template compiled? Even at > > >> 16.04? > > > If you mean "at all", then some months back I built a 14.04. Haven't > > > tried anything more recent. > > > > Right now I'm not able to even compile it even after getting a fresh > > building environment... I guess I'll have to get some more exercise, > > then, unless someone is generating a working setup. > > I think currently builder-debian support at most vivid. But it shouldn't > be hard to add anything newer. > > -- > Best Regards, > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > Invisible Things Lab > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > It isn't. Last night I built Xenial - I'll put in a PR today, although there's some stuff that needs tidying up - why don't the versions share the same keyring? Why identical package lists? Looks like a fair bit of duplication for reasons that escape me. Also, is there a need to retain the old versions? My preference would be to just have LTS. Thoughts on this? unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160617222342.GA14757%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:29:19PM +0200, Achim Patzner wrote: > Am 10.06.2016 um 23:30 schrieb Unman: > > >> Has anybody had success getting a Ubuntu template compiled? Even at 16.04? > > If you mean "at all", then some months back I built a 14.04. Haven't > > tried anything more recent. > > Right now I'm not able to even compile it even after getting a fresh > building environment... I guess I'll have to get some more exercise, > then, unless someone is generating a working setup. I think currently builder-debian support at most vivid. But it shouldn't be hard to add anything newer. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXZFCbAAoJENuP0xzK19csiFwH/jRkjEVH6ECTxa8iB7uS0cbG EzQe2dV6PuZdn79WTMH5t1uRkIoDTwRBbTTI3LCdQ/cEuw27p1Ose1JziF64/9lI qu7jGfcl9UkpNRO1V/j/i7+XUzi1QfH325WWvvM2KOJNe+CbVEGJXx+G26Ave9DZ yXgYOo/G7ltbmpmfxndxS+VptUJWL8vurvntttXuncPVmfYPxElkm5t4KCBS6YRM JlSf5o4VBlzPF14WjKO/0X7aiB9RUOEreJYyTM9vxnaJlu8csTX3MczVs+W2x1M+ RpER2Yc1D+TViHbQaCuHU7meH7kCXkoWHufUtisH2vesF/uXL5HMThHRUvyBDdw= =/g6S -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160617193347.GX1593%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
Am 10.06.2016 um 23:30 schrieb Unman: >> Has anybody had success getting a Ubuntu template compiled? Even at 16.04? > If you mean "at all", then some months back I built a 14.04. Haven't > tried anything more recent. Right now I'm not able to even compile it even after getting a fresh building environment... I guess I'll have to get some more exercise, then, unless someone is generating a working setup. Achim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/25aad691-bde8-35e1-6a18-e875be78041f%40noses.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Remnder: Ubuntu-template anyone?
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 06:53:27PM +0200, Achim Patzner wrote: > Hi! > > > Has anybody had success getting a Ubuntu template compiled? Even at 16.04? > > > > Achim > If you mean "at all", then some months back I built a 14.04. Haven't tried anything more recent. unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160610213001.GA8288%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
