Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread David Taylor
On 14/09/2014 06:27, gooly wrote: [] mintc=3, offset=0.000, frequency=500.000, sys_jitter=0.000, clk_jitter=0.000, clk_wander=0.143 [] Regards, Gooly As I already told you, 500 is the maximum which NTP can correct. Fix the broken clock, or tell NTP the approximate drift rate, or don't use N

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread David Taylor
On 14/09/2014 05:55, gooly wrote: [] The time difference increases ~7 sec. every 15 minutes. gooly NTP's maximum correction is 500 part per million, 43 seconds per day, unless you tell it the approximate magnitude of the clock error with an environ

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread mike cook
Le 14 sept. 2014 à 07:27, gooly a écrit : > frequency=500.000, Your clock has a greater than the maximum drift acceptabe to NTP. You either need new hardware, or read the VPS doc on clock management. Is NTP running in some sort of virtual machine? Probably not a good idea. ___

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
gooly writes: > Am 13.09.2014 23:47, schrieb David Woolley: > > On 13/09/14 15:51, gooly wrote: > >> And this would not explain why ntp.drift is not created? On some systems (as I recall), a non-existent drift file will not be created - you might try creating an empty one and seeing what happens.

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2014-09-13 12:26, gooly wrote: Am 13.09.2014 19:09, schrieb Phil W Lee: David Taylor considered Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:34:01 +0100 the perfect time to write: On 13/09/2014 10:51, gooly wrote: Hi, I just installed ntp (Meinberg, once on Win7, once on a vps 2008 R2). On my Win 7 I see in C:\P

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread gooly
And this would not explain why ntp.drift is not created? As others have pointed out, if NTP is not succeeding, it need not generate a drift file. No I compared the output of ntpq -crv of the vps against the one of my win-7 pc (pretty much at the same moment): the vps: C:\Windows\System

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread gooly
Am 13.09.2014 23:47, schrieb David Woolley: On 13/09/14 15:51, gooly wrote: And this would not explain why ntp.drift is not created? It's not created because synchronisation has never been acquired. The lack of ntp.drift is a secondary effect. ok - but why the "synchronisation has never b

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread Joe Gwinn
In article <541459ff.8000...@gmx.at>, gooly wrote: > Am 13.09.2014 16:09, schrieb Joe Gwinn: > > In article <5414139e.60...@gmx.at>, gooly wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I just installed ntp (Meinberg, once on Win7, once on a vps 2008 R2). > >> On my Win 7 I see in C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\etc

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread David Woolley
On 13/09/14 15:51, gooly wrote: And this would not explain why ntp.drift is not created? It's not created because synchronisation has never been acquired. The lack of ntp.drift is a secondary effect. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread gooly
Am 13.09.2014 19:09, schrieb Phil W Lee: David Taylor considered Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:34:01 +0100 the perfect time to write: On 13/09/2014 10:51, gooly wrote: Hi, I just installed ntp (Meinberg, once on Win7, once on a vps 2008 R2). On my Win 7 I see in C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\etc the dr

Re: [ntp:questions] what does this mean for me??

2014-09-13 Thread David Taylor
On 13/09/2014 15:55, gooly wrote: Hi, I am new to ntp. and acc to my prev. mails I was checking the running but not time-changing ntp and did: C:\Windows\System32>ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ===

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread gooly
Am 13.09.2014 16:34, schrieb David Taylor: On 13/09/2014 10:51, gooly wrote: Hi, I just installed ntp (Meinberg, once on Win7, once on a vps 2008 R2). On my Win 7 I see in C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\etc the drift file but on the vps there is no drift-file? [] Gooly If you had followed my s

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread gooly
Am 13.09.2014 16:34, schrieb David Taylor: On 13/09/2014 10:51, gooly wrote: Hi, I just installed ntp (Meinberg, once on Win7, once on a vps 2008 R2). On my Win 7 I see in C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\etc the drift file but on the vps there is no drift-file? [] Gooly If you had followed my

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread gooly
Am 13.09.2014 16:09, schrieb Joe Gwinn: In article <5414139e.60...@gmx.at>, gooly wrote: Hi, I just installed ntp (Meinberg, once on Win7, once on a vps 2008 R2). On my Win 7 I see in C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\etc the drift file but on the vps there is no drift-file? And after starting (a

[ntp:questions] what does this mean for me??

2014-09-13 Thread gooly
Hi, I am new to ntp. and acc to my prev. mails I was checking the running but not time-changing ntp and did: C:\Windows\System32>ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ==

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread David Taylor
On 13/09/2014 10:51, gooly wrote: Hi, I just installed ntp (Meinberg, once on Win7, once on a vps 2008 R2). On my Win 7 I see in C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\etc the drift file but on the vps there is no drift-file? [] Gooly If you had followed my setup guide you would not have installed in C

Re: [ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread Joe Gwinn
In article <5414139e.60...@gmx.at>, gooly wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed ntp (Meinberg, once on Win7, once on a vps 2008 R2). > On my Win 7 I see in C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\etc the drift file > but on the vps there is no drift-file? > > And after starting (and several restarts) the time-d

Re: [ntp:questions] Compensating for asymmetric delay on a per-peer/server basis?

2014-09-13 Thread Paul
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Rich Wales wrote: > Any thoughts? Something is wrong with your home machine but there's nothing you can do with stock NTP to fix your offset. As posted earlier I see exactly the same ~2ms offset. However as noted -- given that you're on the same network -- these

Re: [ntp:questions] Compensating for asymmetric delay on a per-peer/server basis?

2014-09-13 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-09-12, Martin Burnicki wrote: > William Unruh wrote: >> No idea why a fudge parameter would be complicated. If you wanted to use >> ntpd itself to figure out the assymmetry, that could well be >> complicated. But if it is a fixed offset, I cannot see how that would be >> complicated and it

[ntp:questions] no drift-file on 2008 R2 vps and the time diff. is getting bigger and bigger?

2014-09-13 Thread gooly
Hi, I just installed ntp (Meinberg, once on Win7, once on a vps 2008 R2). On my Win 7 I see in C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\etc the drift file but on the vps there is no drift-file? And after starting (and several restarts) the time-difference getting bigger and bigger. What's going wrong? Ntp

Re: [ntp:questions] Compensating for asymmetric delay on a per-peer/server basis?

2014-09-13 Thread mike cook
Le 13 sept. 2014 à 07:46, Rich Wales a écrit : > Replying to Charles Elliott: > >> The offset may be a function of distance. Try this experiment: >> Set up your ntp.conf file to have three servers . . . : >> 1. A relatively unused stratum 1 or 2 server as close to you as possible >> 2. A rela

Re: [ntp:questions] Compensating for asymmetric delay on a per-peer/server basis?

2014-09-13 Thread mike cook
Le 13 sept. 2014 à 07:46, Rich Wales a écrit : > > > -68.65.164.12.PPS.1 u 13 16 3728.168 -2.126 4.585 > > -171.67.203.16 204.63.224.702 u2 16 3339.6892.146 3.930 > > Any thoughts? > I should have added netstat -i are you dropping p