Re: [ntp:questions] Second attempt at GPS-18 based NTP server

2012-02-10 Thread Duncan, Paul A.
128 3776.066 -0.228 0.660 *GPS_NMEA(0) .PPS.0 l2 64 3770.000 -0.001 0.001 I'm fairly sure that there should be a lower case o to the left of GPS_NMEA, and there is not. Am I right to be worried? Thanks again! Paul.-- This message (and any attachments

[ntp:questions] Second attempt at GPS-18 based NTP server

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Duncan
Please note, I have not done any recompiling of the kernel at this stage - just using the GENERIC kernel, because after reading the comments from Per Hederland in the System software customisation section of the above web page, it seemed unnecessary. Comments? Thanks for your help! Paul. -- Sent

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of NTP - Advice Needed

2011-12-23 Thread Paul Sobey
Paul Sobey wrote: Our internal testing to this point is that a stock ntpd pointed against a stratum 1 clock on a low contention gigabit ethernet (stratum 1 source and client less than 1ms apart) reports its own accuracy at approx 200 microseconds. Further tuning the ntp config by adding

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of NTP - Advice Needed

2011-12-23 Thread Paul Sobey
the remaining offset was no longer a good measure. The offset on a locked up system should be several times larger than the RMS error in the actual system time. Understood, at least in part. I have a nice Christmas reading list of man pages and white papers! Cheers, Paul

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of NTP - Advice Needed

2011-12-23 Thread Paul Sobey
, and praying that the hosts have a serial port connection! Well that's the rub - some of them don't :) If nothing else it might inform new hardware purchases though. Some of these sites vary in their willingness to allow GPS antenas on roofs as well, joy. Cheers, Paul

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of NTP - Advice Needed

2011-12-22 Thread Paul Sobey
On Friday 23 December 2011 03:25:18 Dave Hart wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 19:11, Paul Sobey bud...@the-annexe.net wrote: - can ntpd's own reported offset (ntpq -p or loopstats) be trusted (assuming high priority means it gets scheduled as desired)? I've quoted our apparent numbers

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM PPS

2011-12-15 Thread Paul Duncan
got my first CD drive (a Mitsumi) in the early 90's onto an i386sx running at 20MHz with about 4MB of RAM (in SIP modules). Thanks for all your help so far, Paul. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM PPS

2011-12-07 Thread Paul Duncan
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 19:31 +, unruh wrote: On 2011-12-05, Duncan, Paul A. p...@noc.ac.uk wrote: Hello, I am trying to set up an NTP server using the Garmin GPS-18 as the reference clock. I think I'm most of the way there, but I have a couple of questions. Firstly, here

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM PPS

2011-12-07 Thread Paul Duncan
think this *may* be because I have not added the ATOM driver during the configure, so that is what I will try now. Thanks for all your help so far. Best Regards, Paul. On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 21:25 +, Harlan Stenn wrote: Paul wrote: somebody wrote

[ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM PPS

2011-12-06 Thread Duncan, Paul A.
my questions: 1) Is ntpd getting the PPS information? 2) Should I put the ldattach 18 /dev/ttyS0 command in rc.local - currently I'm running it manually after each boot. Thanks! Paul.-- This message (and any attachments) is for the recipient only. NERC is subject to the Freedom of Information

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM PPS

2011-12-06 Thread Paul Duncan
the software. I think I just used -- enable-NMEA. Should I have done something else? Thanks! Paul. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ questions mailing list questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM PPS

2011-12-06 Thread Paul Duncan
Hello Miguel, On 6 Dec 2011, at 16:00, Miguel Gonçalves wrote: Beware: long e-mail ahead! LOL! Wasn't that long :-) On 6 December 2011 14:49, Paul Duncan p...@noc.ac.uk wrote: Hi Miguel, Thanks very much for getting back to me. No problem. I've been helped before so I'll do my best

Re: [ntp:questions] Running two ntpd systems in parallel

2009-10-30 Thread Paul Fleischer
2009/10/17 Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Paul Fleischer p...@xpg.dk wrote: I would like to see ntpd support unprivileged operation for testing purposes, including using a local port 1024.  The approach I have been considering is adding a port option

[ntp:questions] Running two ntpd systems in parallel

2009-10-09 Thread Paul Fleischer
functionality. I am using ntp-dev-4.2.5p82, and apply the patch attached listed below to change the network port. Can anyone help me solve this problem? Cheers, Paul diff -urN unmod/ntp-dev-4.2.5p82/include/ntp.h ntp-dev-4.2.5p82/include/ntp.h --- unmod/ntp-dev-4.2.5p82/include/ntp.h2007-10

[ntp:questions] ART GAMES

2009-08-18 Thread Chance Paul
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Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-26 Thread paul
On Jul 26, 12:30 am, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.not- this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid wrote: paul wrote: [] Thanks, but I mean something which do not rely on the output of ntpq.exe. My NTP Monitor uses NTP network calls to determine the offset of the PCs - it doesn't use

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-26 Thread paul
Although you might be able to drive a real (non-USB) parallel port, from application code, with fairly low latency the results would only be meaningful for a very unloaded machine, as, on a loaded machine, you wouldn't really know where you where in the system tick interval, when you read the

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-25 Thread paul
On Jul 21, 1:55 pm, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.not-this- part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid wrote: paul wrote: [] 10 Windows boxes with offset no greater than 5 ms from abs time is fair enough for me. I will try a local stratum-1 NTP server. Cheers, Paul Paul, Just

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-25 Thread paul
On Jul 25, 11:38 pm, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.not- this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid wrote: paul wrote: [] Hi David, I am wondering is there any other means to profile NTP performance, like some kind of hardware setup to measure time offset of two machine? I wrote some

[ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread paul
Hi All, I'm new to NTP, glad to meet you here. I did some experiments to test NTP performance on WINNT. In an isolated network, two machines are inter connnected with a switcher. Machine A is configure as a stratum 12 NTP server, using lcl as reference clock; machine B is sychronized to machine

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread paul
On Jul 20, 8:38 pm, T g41...@motorola.com wrote: Greetings: We have about 50 Linux/Solaris/Windows boxes running ntpd at several different sites. Some of the systems from time to time go out of sync. My question is there a way to test ntpd machines are all in sync with the master server?

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread paul
On Jul 20, 10:36 pm, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.not- this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid wrote: paul wrote: Hi All, I'm new to NTP, glad to meet you here. I did some experiments to test NTP performance on WINNT. In an isolated network, two machines are inter connnected

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread paul
On Jul 20, 11:45 pm, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.not- this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid wrote: paul wrote: [] Thank you, David. In my situation, no GPS is availiable. So can I expect better performance when GPS is used as reference clock, or when a stratum-1 NTP server

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does Maximum Distance Exceded mean?

2009-03-16 Thread Paul . Croome
Joseph, If you're not willing to get the source code for NTP and compile it, you can download a binary from http://www.sunfreeware.com/. It's probably configured with a 'standard' set of refclock drivers and, as a consequence, may be larger than a custom-configured version. Paul

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does Maximum Distance Exceded mean?

2009-03-16 Thread Paul . Croome
configured with a 'standard' set of refclock drivers and, as a consequence, may be larger than a custom-configured version. Paul How important is size in today's Sun's systems, or even ones a few years old?  The ntpd file I see is less than 0.5MB (admittedly  Windows version), and occupies

Re: [ntp:questions] PARSE refclock for DCF77

2009-03-13 Thread Paul . Croome
reception improves. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Regarding Primary/Secondary NTP setup

2009-02-18 Thread Paul . Croome
Goran, Under normal running conditions, NTP exchanges a pair of 90-byte packets every 1024 seconds. That's traffic over the wire amounting to about 1.4 bits per second. Is that acceptable, or are you really insisting that the traffic must be zero bps? Paul

Re: [ntp:questions] set up NTP

2008-11-05 Thread Paul . Croome
See also: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/QuickStartIndex Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Does the EU or European country have an equivalent of http://www.usno.navy.mil ?

2008-10-08 Thread Paul . Croome
For Switzerland: http://www.metas.ch/metasweb/Fachbereiche/Zeit_Frequenz ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] remote NTP server

2008-07-01 Thread Paul . Croome
It's also possible to buy NTP appliances, some of which are basically just what you describe: a GPS coupled to an SBC. See for example http://www.meinberg.de/english/products/lantime-m300-gps.htm. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second functional question

2008-02-19 Thread Paul . Croome
See http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/leap.html. That would seem to be the authoritative source. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second functional question

2008-02-19 Thread Paul . Croome
seconds. In the TAI time scale, the minute, hour, day, week are of constant duration. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] GPS with PPS without any soldering requirements?

2008-02-12 Thread Paul . Croome
Folkert, Take a look at http://www.cnssys.com/cnsclock/CNSClockII.html. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP on local network

2008-02-12 Thread Paul . Croome
? Are you using the PPS signal? It might be useful if you could post the ntp.conf file and the output of ntpq on the stratum-1 server that has the GPS refclock. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [ntp:questions] Configuration files missing after make all

2008-02-05 Thread Paul . Croome
work just fine, if that's where you want to put your config file. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] GPS and NTP Server

2008-02-01 Thread Paul . Croome
once per second and use this information to synchronize your server's system clock. For more details, see Dave Mill's excellent pages at http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/database/brief/overview/overview.ppt etc. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions

Re: [ntp:questions] GPS and NTP Server

2008-01-30 Thread Paul . Croome
to configure and compile the source files in order to include support for your refclock. If you ask us specific questions, we can help you better. Paul On Jan 30, 8:16 am, noosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I Have a GPS and NTP Server. is it possible for NTP server to get time from GPS if i

Re: [ntp:questions] Standalone PC Clock Sync

2007-11-05 Thread Paul . Croome
To allay suspicions that this newsgroup might be biased pro-Meinberg, I'll just add that PCI cards are also available from Hopf: http://ww.hopf.com/. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd crashing on startup

2007-10-10 Thread Paul . Croome
/show_bug.cgi?id=893 for details. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] project ntp.br - discrepancy from UTC

2007-10-09 Thread Paul . Croome
://tycho.usno.navy.mil/gps_datafiles.html. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Poll timing

2007-08-21 Thread Paul . Croome
NTP. Paul ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Poll timing

2007-08-16 Thread Paul . Croome
to poll all its servers more-or-less simultaneously, causing bursty network traffic. See http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/ntpd.html#op: In order to protect the network from bunching, the initial poll interval for each server is delayed an interval randomized over a few seconds. Paul

Re: [ntp:questions] Poll timing

2007-08-16 Thread Paul . Croome
Jussi, If you have two requirements: 1. You want to use NTP (or some derivative of NTP), 2. You want tight control over the timing of the polling, then I would suggest that these two requirements are mutually incompatible. Paul ___ questions mailing

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