Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-16 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Yeechang Lee wrote: So everyone should use pool.ntp.org? No 0., 1., 2., or ch., ca., us. prefixes? I don't see any significant reason not to use those, with country / region prefixes. http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html What about the distribution-specific prefixes, like

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-14 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Terje Mathisen wrote: Roger wrote: Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. I get angry when a statement is made

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-14 Thread Yeechang Lee
Rob wrote: The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. No need to use uk. or nl. anymore, that is only a leftover from the past. So everyone should use

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-14 Thread unruh
On 2012-07-13, Fritz Wuehler fr...@spamexpire-201207.rodent.frell.theremailer.net wrote: Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: a) Stop ntpd (as mentioned above) b) check the config file to make sure it's configured to use a drift file, and find the location of it Did

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-14 Thread unruh
On 2012-07-13, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: unruh wrote: Fritz Wuehler wrote: That's all very nice but it says on the ntp.org page to use a national server if you have one. Mine happens to not be very good but

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread David Taylor
On 12/07/2012 20:56, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: I didn't see anything that would allow ntp to runaway. Fritz Wuehler wrote: # Sample /etc/ntp.conf: Configuration file for ntpd. server 0.asia.pool.ntp.org server 1.asia.pool.ntp.org server

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread unruh
On 2012-07-13, Fritz Wuehler fr...@spamexpire-201207.rodent.frell.theremailer.net wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2012-07-12, Anonymous nore...@breaka.net wrote: Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: Hi Unruh, I'm glad you like the suggestions. You

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: - can one have multiple pool commands? For example, at the moment on one widely travelled PC I have: server 0.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 1.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 2.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 0.nl.pool.ntp.org iburst

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread David Taylor
On 13/07/2012 08:45, Rob wrote: David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: - can one have multiple pool commands? For example, at the moment on one widely travelled PC I have: server 0.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 1.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server 2.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: On 13/07/2012 08:45, Rob wrote: David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: - can one have multiple pool commands? For example, at the moment on one widely travelled PC I have: server 0.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst server

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread David Taylor
On 13/07/2012 10:00, Rob wrote: [] The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. No need to use uk. or nl. anymore, that is only a leftover from the past.

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Ron Hahn
Colleagues, I am seeing these experiences since recent times on my two ntp servers: [root@saturn ~]# ntpdc -c kern localhost: timed out, nothing received ***Request timed out [root@saturn ~]# I do not have any restricts in my ntp.conf file. This is confusing me as this was working before

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: On 13/07/2012 10:00, Rob wrote: [] The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. No need to use

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Roger
On 13 Jul 2012 09:00:43 GMT, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. I get angry when a statement is made which can easily

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Rob
Roger invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: On 13 Jul 2012 09:00:43 GMT, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. I get angry

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Fritz Wuehler
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: driftfile /etc/ntp/drift multicastclient broadcastdelay 0.008 Why do you have these? You are getting your time from the pool, and suddenly there is the totally unknown multicast server somewhere that is also feeding in time. Try getting rid

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Fritz Wuehler
Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: a) Stop ntpd (as mentioned above) b) check the config file to make sure it's configured to use a drift file, and find the location of it Did that, and everything appeared normal. c1) set both minpoll and maxpoll to 6 (64 seconds)

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
unruh wrote: Fritz Wuehler wrote: That's all very nice but it says on the ntp.org page to use a national server if you have one. Mine happens to not be very good but that doesn't mean I shouldn't use it if it was good. No idea where it says that, but if it does it is bad advice in

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Terje Mathisen
Roger wrote: On 13 Jul 2012 09:00:43 GMT, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The pool DNS server, when you use pool pool.ntp.org or server pool.ntp.org, lookup your IP address in a location database and give you a server from the country you are residing in. I get angry when a statement is made

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2012-07-13, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: The documentation is lacking. It does not tell that it is using a location service at all. But still it does. This has been the case since 2007. Check the archives of the timekeepers mailing list for bits and pieces if information that have

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2012-07-13, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I wish the pool command was described somewhere where Goggle found it more easily! Try searching google for site:doc.ntp.org pool e.g. http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adoc.ntp.org+pool Or go to http://doc.ntp.org and

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2012-07-13, Ron Hahn ron.h...@dhco.org wrote: I am seeing these experiences since recent times on my two ntp servers: [root@saturn ~]# ntpdc -c kern localhost: timed out, nothing received ***Request timed out [root@saturn ~]# I do not have any restricts in my ntp.conf file. This is

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-13 Thread David Taylor
On 14/07/2012 04:25, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2012-07-13, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I wish the pool command was described somewhere where Goggle found it more easily! Try searching google for site:doc.ntp.org pool e.g.

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-12 Thread Anonymous
Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: Hi Unruh, I'm glad you like the suggestions. You may be right about the drift file. I don't know for sure what caused the runaway clock I experience in the past. However, it's my understanding that NTP sets the computer clock

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-12 Thread unruh
On 2012-07-12, Anonymous nore...@breaka.net wrote: Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: Hi Unruh, I'm glad you like the suggestions. You may be right about the drift file. I don't know for sure what caused the runaway clock I experience in the past. However, it's

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-12 Thread Fritz Wuehler
E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: Anonymous wrote: I decided to try to synchronize to my other machines in my network rather than the ntp pool I was using and after restarting the PC with the problem it is fine.

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-12 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
I didn't see anything that would allow ntp to runaway. Fritz Wuehler wrote: # Sample /etc/ntp.conf: Configuration file for ntpd. server 0.asia.pool.ntp.org server 1.asia.pool.ntp.org server 2.asia.pool.ntp.org server 3.asia.pool.ntp.org If you use a more recent version Dev 4.2.7p288,

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-12 Thread David Woolley
Fritz Wuehler wrote: # Trust ourselves. :-) restrict 127.0.0.1 Trusting yourself is only useful if you don't trust others as much! ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-12 Thread Fritz Wuehler
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2012-07-12, Anonymous nore...@breaka.net wrote: Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: Hi Unruh, I'm glad you like the suggestions. You may be right about the drift file. I don't know for sure what caused the runaway clock I

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-12 Thread unruh
On 2012-07-12, Fritz Wuehler fr...@spamexpire-201207.rodent.frell.theremailer.net wrote: E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists Null@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid wrote: Anonymous wrote: I decided to try to synchronize to my other machines in my network rather

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-11 Thread Anonymous
Dave Hart h...@ntp.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 18:14 UTC, Fritz Wuehler wrote: I noticed the clock on my main desktop was off by 28 minutes today and it increased to 45 minutes. I resync'd with ntpdate manually and it has drifted behind again about 7 minutes in the last few hours.

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-11 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Anonymous wrote: I decided to try to synchronize to my other machines in my network rather than the ntp pool I was using and after restarting the PC with the problem it is fine. I do not know what the problem was since the other boxes are still using the ntp pool and not having any

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-11 Thread Kennedy, Paul
: Thursday, 12 July 2012 3:42 AM To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast Anonymous wrote: I decided to try to synchronize to my other machines in my network rather than the ntp pool I was using and after restarting the PC with the problem it is fine. I do

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-10 Thread unruh
On 2012-07-09, Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2012-07-09, Dave Hart h...@ntp.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 18:14 UTC, Fritz Wuehler wrote: I noticed the clock on my main desktop was off by 28 minutes today and it increased

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-10 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2012-07-09, Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@techstarship.com wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2012-07-09, Dave Hart h...@ntp.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 18:14 UTC, Fritz Wuehler wrote: I noticed the clock on my main desktop was off by

[ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-09 Thread Fritz Wuehler
I noticed the clock on my main desktop was off by 28 minutes today and it increased to 45 minutes. I resync'd with ntpdate manually and it has drifted behind again about 7 minutes in the last few hours. I am using ntp version 4.2.4p7 which was installed with Slackware on Linux kernel 2.6.29.6.

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-09 Thread Dave Hart
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 18:14 UTC, Fritz Wuehler wrote: I noticed the clock on my main desktop was off by 28 minutes today and it increased to 45 minutes. I resync'd with ntpdate manually and it has drifted behind again about 7 minutes in the last few hours. I am using ntp version 4.2.4p7

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-09 Thread Mike S
On 7/9/2012 2:14 PM, Fritz Wuehler wrote: I noticed the clock on my main desktop was off by 28 minutes today and it increased to 45 minutes. I resync'd with ntpdate manually and it has drifted behind again about 7 minutes in the last few hours. NTP will only correct for local clock error up to

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-09 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
On 7/9/2012 2:14 PM, Fritz Wuehler wrote: I noticed the clock on my main desktop was off by 28 minutes today and it increased to 45 minutes. I resync'd with ntpdate manually and it has drifted behind again about 7 minutes in the last few hours. You do not mention the direction of the error

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-09 Thread unruh
On 2012-07-09, Dave Hart h...@ntp.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 18:14 UTC, Fritz Wuehler wrote: I noticed the clock on my main desktop was off by 28 minutes today and it increased to 45 minutes. I resync'd with ntpdate manually and it has drifted behind again about 7 minutes in the last

Re: [ntp:questions] losing time fast

2012-07-09 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2012-07-09, Dave Hart h...@ntp.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 18:14 UTC, Fritz Wuehler wrote: I noticed the clock on my main desktop was off by 28 minutes today and it increased to 45 minutes. I resync'd with ntpdate manually and it has drifted behind