Re: [ntp:questions] IEEE 1588 (PTP) at the nanosecond level?

2014-03-20 Thread Terje Mathisen
Hal Murray wrote: In article 53298269.6000...@systematicsw.ab.ca, Brian Inglis brian.ing...@systematicsw.ab.ca writes: Something like a Thunderbolt GPSDO feeding data, PPS, and 10MHz clock to a chip executing instructions at some clock multiple and handling interrupts in a deterministic time

Re: [ntp:questions] NIST wonders if it makes sense to outsource NTP over the public Internet

2014-03-20 Thread Charles Elliott
The ustiming.org NTP server in NYC was consistently wrong for a long time; I have not looked at it lately. If the government is going to privatize serving time, then it has to exercise more effective oversight. The other side of the coin is, where is the money in serving time? The management

Re: [ntp:questions] IEEE 1588 (PTP) at the nanosecond level?

2014-03-20 Thread Joe Gwinn
In article yvqdnqukc7qjb7fonz2dnuvz_vudn...@megapath.net, Hal Murray hal-use...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net wrote: In article 190320142025178186%joegw...@comcast.net, Joe Gwinn joegw...@comcast.net writes: The original issue was to be able to drop IRIG support in honor of PTP via the

Re: [ntp:questions] IEEE 1588 (PTP) at the nanosecond level?

2014-03-20 Thread Rob
Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: Sure. My point is I haven't seen a use case in this thread for nanosecond *accuracy* relative to the TAI paper clock. It is not for timestamping the moment of clicking in an online auction or stock trade? Those people normally have infinite timestamping

Re: [ntp:questions] IEEE 1588 (PTP) at the nanosecond level?

2014-03-20 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-03-20, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: Sure. My point is I haven't seen a use case in this thread for nanosecond *accuracy* relative to the TAI paper clock. It is not for timestamping the moment of clicking in an online auction or stock trade? Those

Re: [ntp:questions] IEEE 1588 (PTP) at the nanosecond level?

2014-03-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 19/03/14 10:43, Martin Burnicki wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: On 18/03/14 10:17, Martin Burnicki wrote: We have mades some tests and found that NTP can yield the same accuracy as NTP if also hardware timestamping of NTP packets is supported on all nodes, similar as for PTP. In fact this

Re: [ntp:questions] IEEE 1588 (PTP) at the nanosecond level?

2014-03-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 19/03/14 10:50, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:20:08PM +0100, Magnus Danielson wrote: No, it's not. NTP is being perceived to be software timestamping but nothing prohibits you from doing it in hardware. Similarly can you implement PTP with software time-stamping (with

Re: [ntp:questions] IEEE 1588 (PTP) at the nanosecond level?

2014-03-20 Thread Paul
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: Sure. My point is I haven't seen a use case in this thread for nanosecond *accuracy* relative to the TAI paper clock. It is not for timestamping the moment of clicking in an online auction or

Re: [ntp:questions] IEEE 1588 (PTP) at the nanosecond level?

2014-03-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 19/03/14 18:51, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: Martin Burnicki wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: Indeed. If you read the right article from 1990 you also know you can do it on L1 C/A only by monitoring both code and carrier phase, as their ionospheric

Re: [ntp:questions] IEEE 1588 (PTP) at the nanosecond level?

2014-03-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Joe, On 20/03/14 01:53, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article 5328ad2...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 18/03/14 01:24, Joe Gwinn wrote: I've used IRIG-B004 DCLS before, for cables two meters long within a cabinet. Worked well. How well do they handle

Re: [ntp:questions] Asymmetric Delay and NTP

2014-03-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Joe, On 19/03/14 11:55, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article 5328aaa6.70...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 18/03/14 01:36, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article 5327757e.5040...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Is that formal