Re: [ntp:questions] New Stratum-1 at the University of Houston

2014-04-25 Thread Evandro Menezes
The NTP ST1 server at the University of Houston has been offline for about a month. Any information about its demise? Yet another victim of a DOS attack? TIA ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-04-24, Montgomery, Peter BIS peter.montgom...@fs.utc.com wrote: I am new to NTP. But I have a quick question that I need to answer soon. I would like to know whether NTP can sync between a client and a server within 1ms if the client and server are Linux applications on a

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread Harlan Stenn
Montgomery, Peter BIS writes: I am new to NTP. But I have a quick question that I need to answer soon. I would like to know whether NTP can sync between a client and a server within 1ms if the client and server are Linux applications on a simple local network ( less than 10 nodes). Yes, in

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread mike cook
Le 25 avr. 2014 à 08:34, William Unruh a écrit : On 2014-04-24, Montgomery, Peter BIS peter.montgom...@fs.utc.com wrote: I am new to NTP. But I have a quick question that I need to answer soon. I would like to know whether NTP can sync between a client and a server within 1ms if

Re: [ntp:questions] Attn Linux distributors - pse include PPS

2014-04-25 Thread Jan Ceuleers
On 04/24/2014 09:31 PM, Rob wrote: all that is required to get PPS working is to fetch the source package of ntpd for the distribution and recompile it while that single file has been added. e.g. on Ubuntu that file is present in the package pps-tools. So please, on your build systems,

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread Henry Hallam
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Montgomery, Peter BIS peter.montgom...@fs.utc.com wrote: I am new to NTP. But I have a quick question that I need to answer soon. I would like to know whether NTP can sync between a client and a server within 1ms if the client and server are Linux

Re: [ntp:questions] Attn Linux distributors - pse include PPS

2014-04-25 Thread Rob
Jan Ceuleers jan.ceule...@computer.org wrote: On 04/24/2014 09:31 PM, Rob wrote: all that is required to get PPS working is to fetch the source package of ntpd for the distribution and recompile it while that single file has been added. e.g. on Ubuntu that file is present in the package

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread Rob
Henry Hallam he...@pericynthion.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Montgomery, Peter BIS peter.montgom...@fs.utc.com wrote: I am new to NTP. But I have a quick question that I need to answer soon. I would like to know whether NTP can sync between a client and a server

Re: [ntp:questions] Attn Linux distributors - pse include PPS

2014-04-25 Thread Paul
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Of course it is all caused by the failure to include timepps.h in the kernel include file package, where they belong IMHO. Apparently there is unresolved debate about that. Ubuntu puts this development related file in the

Re: [ntp:questions] New Stratum-1 at the University of Houston

2014-04-25 Thread Jason Rabel
The NTP ST1 server at the University of Houston has been offline for about a month. Any information about its demise? Yet another victim of a DOS attack? I don't know, it seemed kind of flaky at first then it stopped responding altogether. I finally gave up and removed it from my list a

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread Jason Rabel
I would like to know whether NTP can sync between a client and a server within 1ms if the client and server are Linux applications on a simple local network ( less than 10 nodes). Yes, if simply go by the offset figure in NTP, you can usually get sub-millisecond figures between two

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-04-25, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Henry Hallam he...@pericynthion.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Montgomery, Peter BIS peter.montgom...@fs.utc.com wrote: I am new to NTP. But I have a quick question that I need to answer soon. I would like to know whether NTP

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread Paul
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Montgomery, Peter BIS peter.montgom...@fs.utc.com wrote: I would like to know whether NTP can sync between a client and a server within 1ms if the client and server are Linux applications on a simple local network ( less than 10 nodes). As previously

[ntp:questions] TrueTime XL-AK GPS lock satellite take too much time.....

2014-04-25 Thread Victor
Hi, all, I recently use TrueTime XL-AK, when I first start the system, it only take about 10 minutes to lock satellites. And I think it is good. But the second time I move to another place (about 40 miles away from the first place), it never lock any satellites again. I am not sure about the

Re: [ntp:questions] New Stratum-1 at the University of Houston

2014-04-25 Thread Evandro Menezes
On Friday, April 25, 2014 9:40:47 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote: I don't know, it seemed kind of flaky at first then it stopped responding altogether. I finally gave up and removed it from my list a while ago. It used to be stable for ages, maybe they just removed public access? Even ntp.tmc.edu

Re: [ntp:questions] TrueTime XL-AK GPS lock satellite take too much time.....

2014-04-25 Thread mike cook
Le 25 avr. 2014 à 17:56, Victor a écrit : Hi, all, I recently use TrueTime XL-AK, when I first start the system, it only take about 10 minutes to lock satellites. And I think it is good. But the second time I move to another place (about 40 miles away from the first place), it never

Re: [ntp:questions] TrueTime XL-AK GPS lock satellite take too much time.....

2014-04-25 Thread Jochen Bern
[First reply to a MIME digest, hope the In-Reply-To doesn't end up as broken as the timestamp in the following line :-C ] On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Victor wrote: when I first start the system, it only take about 10 minutes to lock satellites. [...] But the second time I move to another place

Re: [ntp:questions] TrueTime XL-AK GPS lock satellite take too much time.....

2014-04-25 Thread Victor
On Friday, April 25, 2014 12:42:01 PM UTC-4, mike wrote: Le 25 avr. 2014 à 17:56, Victor a écrit : Hi, all, I recently use TrueTime XL-AK, when I first start the system, it only take about 10 minutes to lock satellites. And I think it is good. But the second time I move

Re: [ntp:questions] TrueTime XL-AK GPS lock satellite take too much time.....

2014-04-25 Thread Victor
On Friday, April 25, 2014 1:00:00 PM UTC-4, Jochen Bern wrote: [First reply to a MIME digest, hope the In-Reply-To doesn't end up as broken as the timestamp in the following line :-C ] On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Victor wrote: when I first start the system, it only take about 10 minutes

Re: [ntp:questions] TrueTime XL-AK GPS lock satellite take too much time.....

2014-04-25 Thread Dowd, Greg
While it is not always true, I would say that the vast majority of the time when this happens it is a connection issue. Did you disconnect, check and reconnect the cable to the antenna? Does this box have any indication of antenna open/short or satellite visibility/signal levels? Did you try

Re: [ntp:questions] Attn Linux distributors - pse include PPS

2014-04-25 Thread Rob
Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Of course it is all caused by the failure to include timepps.h in the kernel include file package, where they belong IMHO. Apparently there is unresolved debate about that. Ubuntu puts this

Re: [ntp:questions] New Stratum-1 at the University of Houston

2014-04-25 Thread Jason Rabel
From my site, both uh.edu and tmc.edu are pretty close, latency-wise. And uh.edu's being ST1 was certainly a plus. Anyway, it's still in my list, hoping that it comes back alive. FWIW, the ST2 server at tamu.edu is pretty close to me too. Adding another nearby server, even ST2 would be

Re: [ntp:questions] TrueTime XL-AK GPS lock satellite take too much

2014-04-25 Thread Jason Rabel
I recently use TrueTime XL-AK, when I first start the system, it only take about 10 minutes to lock satellites. And I think it is good. But the second time I move to another place (about 40 miles away from the first place), it never lock any satellites again. I am not sure about the

Re: [ntp:questions] New Stratum-1 at the University of Houston

2014-04-25 Thread Evandro Menezes
On Friday, April 25, 2014 2:15:34 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: 'ntppub.tamu.edu' usually has 'clepsydra.dec.com' as its selected time source. I just use that server instead of tamu's... I realize this, but I prefer to have a reference nearby, even if ST2 just to validate an ST1. It has happened

Re: [ntp:questions] New Stratum-1 at the University of Houston

2014-04-25 Thread Evandro Menezes
On Friday, April 25, 2014 1:09:45 AM UTC-5, Evandro Menezes wrote: The NTP ST1 server at the University of Houston has been offline for about a month. Any information about its demise? Yet another victim of a DOS attack? Alan Pfeiffer-Traum from UH was kind enough to explain: tick.uh.edu has

Re: [ntp:questions] Attn Linux distributors - pse include PPS

2014-04-25 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-04-25, Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Of course it is all caused by the failure to include timepps.h in the kernel include file package, where they belong IMHO. Apparently there is unresolved debate about that. Ubuntu

Re: [ntp:questions] TrueTime XL-AK GPS lock satellite take too much

2014-04-25 Thread Victor
On Friday, April 25, 2014 3:22:30 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: I recently use TrueTime XL-AK, when I first start the system, it only take about 10 minutes to lock satellites. And I think it is good. But the second time I move to another place (about 40 miles away from the first place),

Re: [ntp:questions] Attn Linux distributors - pse include PPS

2014-04-25 Thread Paul
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:36 PM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: Why shoul dit ship with no refclocks? ... DO you have the same opinion for serial port or parallel ports, or network drivers? (Ignoring your mischaracterization of what I said and the strawman arguments) because a

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread Joe Gwinn
In article 8188ba2b01fb534a99c03d79c62ce1d80982f...@uusnwe3a.global.utcmail.com, Montgomery, Peter BIS peter.montgom...@fs.utc.com wrote: I am new to NTP. But I have a quick question that I need to answer soon. I would like to know whether NTP can sync between a client and a server

Re: [ntp:questions] Attn Linux distributors - pse include PPS

2014-04-25 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-04-25, Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:36 PM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: Why shoul dit ship with no refclocks? ... DO you have the same opinion for serial port or parallel ports, or network drivers? (Ignoring your mischaracterization of what I

Re: [ntp:questions] Can NTP sync within 1ms

2014-04-25 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-04-26, Joe Gwinn joegw...@comcast.net wrote: In article 8188ba2b01fb534a99c03d79c62ce1d80982f...@uusnwe3a.global.utcmail.com, Montgomery, Peter BIS peter.montgom...@fs.utc.com wrote: I am new to NTP. But I have a quick question that I need to answer soon. I would like to

Re: [ntp:questions] Attn Linux distributors - pse include PPS

2014-04-25 Thread Harlan Stenn
William Unruh writes: On 2014-04-25, Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:36 PM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: Why shoul dit ship with no refclocks? ... DO you have the same opinion for serial port or parallel ports, or network drivers? (Ignoring your