Gretchen Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I went to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
I saw that it was 10:35 in New York but in Adelaide it was 1:05 PM and in
New Delhi 8:05.
How can that be?
Gretchen
While most time zones differ from UTC by an integer number of hours,
Ryan Malayter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That may be what you expect, but you can get it 1usec (1 micro second).
Is there something wrong with the mail gateway and Unicode? I posted
my message as text/plain with charset=UTF-8,
Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Ryan Malayter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That may be what you expect, but you can get it 1usec (1 micro second).
Is there something wrong with the mail gateway
Melanie Pfefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello
when I specify for example a ntp that is located in a different Time Zone,
how ntp records my local time?
It doesn't as ntp always uses UTC.
Conversion to local time is up to the system.
--
Jim Pennino
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Andy Helten andy.hel...@dot21rts.com wrote:
Heiko Gerstung wrote:
Juergen Perlinger schrieb:
Hi everybody,
One of the things that can be annoying is that NTPD cannot do an initial
synchronization from (most) reference clocks over a difference of more than
4 hours.
The reason is that
Unruh unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com writes:
Have you never heard of calling ntpdate before starting the NTP daemon?
uh, ntpdate is severely depricated, and ntpd -g is what is supposed to be
used. If ntpd -g fails it is a bug.
Uhh, lots of mainline 'nix's
Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Unruh unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com writes:
Have you never heard of calling ntpdate before starting the NTP daemon?
uh, ntpdate is severely depricated, and ntpd -g is what is
David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.neither-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk
wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
[]
You do understand there are lots of environments where it takes an
act of God to be allowed to replace vendor utilities with self
compiled versions, don't you?
Not a
David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.neither-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk
wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
[]
What planet do you people live on?
I have one client that will not even allow Windows critical security
updates to be installed until a extensive formal test is done to
David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.neither-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk
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j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
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The point is LOTS of places have extensive procedures in place that
must be followed before any software on production systems can be
changed, including applying vendor
David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.co.uk.invalid wrote:
Nathaniel Homier wrote:
Thank you for the ideas. There were many and I think I will start with
the audio drivers first. But I will keep an eye on the serial/gps
solution as well.
You may find that you need SSB capability on
Nathaniel Homier n...@universal-mechanism.org wrote:
On Fri, 01 May 2009 21:15:02 +, jimp wrote:
David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.co.uk.invalid wrote:
You may find that you need SSB capability on the HF receiver.
Not for any WWV station.
We can use the synchronous detector
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
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n...@blacklist.anitech-systems.invalid wrote:
... and, what do all those millions of embedded systems
do now to get time zone data?
They don't. DST support is usually hardwired, manually configured
John Hasler j...@dhh.gt.org wrote:
Jim Pennino writes:
Newer stuff tends to run a version of Linux or FreeBSD and you get
updates as patches from the maker.
Downloaded automatically as needed? What happens when the maker goes bust,
shuts down their server, or decides the product is
John Hasler j...@dhh.gt.org wrote:
I wrote:
I don't know of any distribution that provides an easy way
arrange for automatic updates of a single file.
Null writes:
Why would rsync not work?
It would work fine but it seems like overkill and is not universally
available.
...or a cron
John Hasler j...@dhh.gt.org wrote:
I wrote:
I'm just proposing that the file be made available at a standard location
on a well-known set of distributed servers.
Jim Pennino writes:
For what kind of system?
Any.
While the zoneinfo database, also known as the Olson database, is
David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.co.uk.invalid wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
What about all the systems that don't use Olson?
I'm only aware of one that doesn't require the system administrator to
manually configure for any zone that that doesn't match the (historic)
John Hasler j...@dhh.gt.org wrote:
Jim Pennino writes:
If you limit the problem to Olson, the problem was solved years ago at:
ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/
Until they have a budget cut, a server reorganization, decide the traffic
is excessive, or just get bored.
You are still ignoring the
David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.co.uk.invalid wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.co.uk.invalid wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
What about all the systems that don't use Olson?
I'm only aware of one that doesn't require the system
unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote:
On 2010-02-10, David J Taylor
david-tay...@blueyonder.delete-this-bit.and-this-part.co.uk.invalid wrote:
David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote in message
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David J Taylor wrote:
I
JohnAllen johnbenal...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe I read this too quickly, but the report published today by the
UK Royal Academy of Engineering (see
http://www.raeng.org.uk/news/publications/list/reports/RAoE_Global_Navigation_Systems_Report.pdf
and also the BBC coverage at
unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote:
On 2011-03-08, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
JohnAllen johnbenal...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe I read this too quickly, but the report published today by the
UK Royal Academy of Engineering (see
Uwe Klein uwe_klein_habertw...@t-online.de wrote:
Chris Albertson wrote:
NTP simply is not good enough for use in a tower so it is not used.
And why would they use it when all towers by definition have a clear
view of the sky
IMHO the basic concept of your system is broken when you have
Yessica yessima...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello!
I am installing an NTP server, but requires authentication for that
clients can be synchronized with the server, and also that
authentication should be with public and private keys. Let me know if
I can work with certificates issued by any authority
Hal Murray hal-use...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net wrote:
In article ghps58-1a@mail.specsol.com,
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com writes:
When I see questions like this my first response is Why all the bother?.
There is nothing secret or proprietary about the time of day.
Since all NTP
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:26 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
When I see questions like this my first response is Why all the bother?.
There is nothing secret or proprietary about the time of day.
Security is so that you know you
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:18 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Hal Murray hal-use...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net wrote:
In article ghps58-1a@mail.specsol.com,
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com writes:
When I see questions like this my first
Steve Kostecke koste...@ntp.org wrote:
On 2011-03-25, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com
wrote:
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:26 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
When I see questions like this my first response is Why all
Uwe Klein uwe_klein_habertw...@t-online.de wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
If you specify the server by IP address, how does that happen and who
would bother to do it?
The $something trading solutions that require exact timematch
( remember the recent rush of ntp users
Miroslav Lichvar mlich...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 05:01:07PM -0700, Chris Albertson wrote:
Security is so that you know you are not being spoofed. Or if you are
providing the time so that you can prove to your users that you are
who you claim to be and are not spoofing them.
Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote:
On 3/25/2011 11:40 AM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Uwe Kleinuwe_klein_habertw...@t-online.de wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
If you specify the server by IP address, how does that happen and who
would bother to do it?
The
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Null@blacklist.anitech-systems.invalid wrote:
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Let's see you spoof the Internet, GPS, and CDMA all at the same time.
Any two would be sufficient!
GPS Jamming could take
David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
One more time, if time is critical to your operation you have several
sources to include local GPS and CDMA NTP boxes.
You missed an important point, your CEO must also have a current science
background.
Uwe Klein uwe_klein_habertw...@t-online.de wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
One more time, if time is critical to your operation you do NOT have one
and only one NTP server.
One more time, the times of well designed protocolls
and infrastructure software are gone ;-)
Today the PHB
unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote:
On 2011-03-25, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Miroslav Lichvar mlich...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 05:01:07PM -0700, Chris Albertson wrote:
Security is so that you know you are not being spoofed. Or if you
Maarten Wiltink maar...@kittensandcats.net wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote in message
news:5lpu58-278@mail.specsol.com...
Uwe Klein uwe_klein_habertw...@t-online.de wrote:
[...]
The $something trading solutions that require exact timematch
( remember the recent rush of ntp users
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:40 AM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Let's see you spoof the Internet, GPS, and CDMA all at the same time.
Summary of above argument:
You can't spoof my system, therefor other systems can't be spoofed.
Nope.
Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote:
On 3/27/2011 5:45 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Let's see you spoof
Uwe Klein uwe_klein_habertw...@t-online.de wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote:
Didn't I just see an announcement that GPS was going to be jammed in
order to test something or other?
Yeah, it happens quite often on a scheduled basis in
Uwe Klein uwe_klein_habertw...@t-online.de wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
At that point they start slowly changing the time to something else.
Meanwhile, inside the building where NTP was set up by someone with a clue
if you go by the questions placed here on occasion that
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:56 AM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
OK, so the bad guy sets up the stuff for a GPS spoofer and parks it next
to the targeted building where high dollar value stuff goes on in hopes
of tweeking their system
Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote:
GPS can be done very affordably and can offer great time. There are
several *potential* pitfalls:
- It is *possible* for the US Gov't to detune the GPS system (locally or
in-general). Since GPS is now increasingly used for human safety
things, the
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote:
And we keep hearing about the UK jamming GPS for hours at a time in
regions of the UK.
Yes, we keep hearing about that from the UK.
But what about other countries, probably they do the same thing but
we don't hear
unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca wrote:
On 2011-08-31, Uwe Klein u...@klein-habertwedt.de wrote:
David J Taylor wrote:
How does this square with those who claim 4ns from their GPS devices?
Pfft.
The defining document is rather old I guess. A lot happened in between.
( I looked into GPS
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
Rich schmidt.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Someone is at war with USNO NTP service. They could be students,
who knows? But all of the offending addresses traced to Chinese
sites. In order to continue to provide NTP to US customers, USNO
elected to block Chinese
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
How do you tag a neutrino so that you can say with assurance that the
the neutrino that left Cern is the same neutrino that arrives at Sasso?
Jim Pennino writes:
By sending them in a pulse of a known width.
It should be
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
unruh writes:
They require ns accuracy in the timing and m accuracy in the
distance. And the timing is not simply gps ( although they could have
gotten that wrong) but then that timing has to be brought down into
the mine a km or so below ground and
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
On 2011-12-24, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
unruh writes:
They require ns accuracy in the timing and m accuracy in the
distance. And the timing is not simply gps ( although they could have
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Jim Pennino writes:
The issue is that most people don't seem to be able to understand how
to get an accurate position of a location that is vertically under a
km or so of dirt, yet horizontally feet from wide open sky and GPS
signals.
The open sky
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
The open sky nearest the OPERA detector is straight up through 1400m of
rock.
Jim Pennino writes:
And the easiest open sky to get to is horizontally down the tunnel to
the entrance which is next to a freeway.
Yes, the entrance is next to a freeway.
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
On 2011-12-24, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
On 2011-12-24, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
unruh writes:
They require ns accuracy in the
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
On 2011-12-25, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
The open sky nearest the OPERA detector is straight up through 1400m of
rock.
Jim Pennino writes:
And the easiest open sky to get to is
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Again, were do you see the word few in what I wrote?
That makes the statement so meaningless. Every distance can be
measured in feet.
If I had written exactly the same thing with the exception of using
Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/24/2011 8:10 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
The open sky nearest the OPERA detector is straight up through 1400m of
rock.
Jim Pennino writes:
And the easiest open sky to get to is horizontally down the
Greg Hennessy greg.henne...@cox.net wrote:
The bottom line is that the only thing that is relevant is how easy it is
to get to a GPS antenna with an open view of the sky.
Everything else is bloviation.
GPS is not used for this kind of thing, they are too inaccurate, so it
doesn't matter.
Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/27/2011 8:48 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/24/2011 8:10 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
The open sky nearest the OPERA detector is straight up through 1400m of
Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/27/2011 11:45 PM, Greg Hennessy wrote:
On 2011-12-28, Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/27/2011 9:08 PM, John Hasler wrote:
Danny writes:
GPS is not used for this kind of thing, they are too inaccurate, so it
doesn't matter. They use atomic clocks.
Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/28/2011 12:09 AM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/27/2011 8:48 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/24/2011 8:10 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
John Hasler
Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/28/2011 12:17 AM, unruh wrote:
On 2011-12-28, Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/24/2011 8:10 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
The open sky nearest the OPERA detector is straight up through 1400m of
rock.
Danny Mayer ma...@ntp.org wrote:
On 12/29/2011 8:38 PM, Dennis Ferguson wrote:
On 29 Dec, 2011, at 23:26 , Terje Mathisen wrote:
Danny Mayer wrote:
No, they use synchronized Cesium atomic clocks for time accuracy. GPS is
only used to get a fix on the location and I'm not sure that 10's of
Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote:
On 2/22/2012 5:16 PM, David Woolley wrote:
An article in the Metro, the free morning paper on the London commuter
transport network, suggests that criminals may be using GPS jamming
equipment to warp the time on financial systems to allow the
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Null@blacklist.anitech-systems.invalid wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
In this case what is being jammed is position, not time,
and this is so smarter car thieves can defeat systems like LoJack.
This is a much easier case
Rick Jones rick.jon...@hp.com wrote:
Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote:
On 2/22/2012 5:16 PM, David Woolley wrote:
An article in the Metro, the free morning paper on the London commuter
transport network, suggests that criminals may be using GPS jamming
equipment to warp the
Dennis Ferguson dennis.c.fergu...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 Mar, 2012, at 08:26 , David J Taylor wrote:
Just wondering:
1) Is the UK govt doing this?
The notice is from a UK Government agency.
2) Is the USA doing anything similar?
I would be surprised if they were not, but they may
David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote:
On 27/01/2013 19:33, unruh wrote:
On 2013-01-27, no-...@no-place.org no-...@no-place.org wrote:
[]
In case you are wondering, my app is a professional piano tuning app.
The standard in this industry is that tuning devices should be
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
The listeners should enjoy a smooth reception while driving around.
So of course there should be no time lag between the modulation signals
of the different transmitters. Experts in the field tell us we
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote:
On 27/04/14 17:28, Rob wrote:
We are setting up a co-channel diversity network. That means multiple
FM transmitters that are transmitting the same signal on the same
frequency on different sites, where the
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
Jochen Bern jochen.b...@linworks.de wrote:
[Resend to list, rather than non-working(?) sender e-mail address]
On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Rob wrote:
We are setting up a co-channel diversity network. That means multiple
FM transmitters that are transmitting the same
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
The listeners should enjoy a smooth reception while driving around.
So of course there should be no time lag
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Your transmitters will have to be contained within a circle of 3.6km,
reduced by the timing errors in the modulation at 0.3km/microsecond.
This turns out to be not the case. Networks like this have
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
j...@specsol.spam.sux.com j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
The listeners should
Nick m...@privacy.net wrote:
snip
This performance is marginal for WSJTX. I need 10ms offset or less after
15 minutes.
What make you think that?
I see a lot of WSJTX signals that are within +/- .5 seconds and occasionally
some over a second off and they still decode. Most seem to be +/- .3
Nick m...@privacy.net wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 23:16:57 +, jimp wrote:
Nick m...@privacy.net wrote:
snip
This performance is marginal for WSJTX. I need 10ms offset or less
after 15 minutes.
What make you think that?
I see a lot of WSJTX signals that are within +/- .5
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