Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-12 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 2/12/2007 2:50 AM, Patrick Connolly wrote: On Wed, 07-Feb-2007 at 07:07PM +1100, Jim Lemon wrote: | Matthew Keller wrote: | Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one that I | imagine most people who use R have come across. The name R is a big | impediment to

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-11 Thread Patrick Connolly
On Wed, 07-Feb-2007 at 07:07PM +1100, Jim Lemon wrote: | Matthew Keller wrote: | Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one that I | imagine most people who use R have come across. The name R is a big | impediment to effective online searches. As a check, I entered R |

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-09 Thread Jim Lemon
Ben Fairbank wrote: To those following this thRead: There was a thread on this topic a year or so ago on this list, in which contributors mentioned reasons that corporate powers-that-be were reluctant to commit to R as a corporate statistical platform. (My favorite was There is no one to

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-09 Thread Jeremy Miles
I was under the impression that most software has a licence agreement that does not allow you to sue them. If Windows crashes at a crucial moment, and loses me millions of dollars [I can't imagine that happening to me, but it might happen to someone], I don't think I can sue microsoft. A few

[R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Albrecht, Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner)
Dear all, I was reading with great interest your comments about the use of R in the industry. Personally, I use R as scripting language in the financial industry, not so much for its statistical capabilities (which are great), but more for programming. I once switched from S-Plus to R, because I

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Patrick Burns
Private Equity Partner) wrote: Dear all, I was reading with great interest your comments about the use of R in the industry. Personally, I use R as scripting language in the financial industry, not so much for its statistical capabilities (which are great), but more for programming. I once switched

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Stefan Grosse
I just ran on my Windows PC the benchmark from http://www.sciviews.org/benchmark/index.html which is pretty old now. Thats probably the reason for the errors which I did not correct. As you see R has some advantages but Matlab has also some advantages. However the differences are not to big. There

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Roland Rau
Hi, On 2/8/07, Albrecht, Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would very much appreciate any comments on my above remarks. I know there has been some discussions of R vs. Matlab on R-help, but these could be somewhat out-dated, since both languages are evolving

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Ben Fairbank
with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. Ben Fairbank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Burns Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:24 AM To: Albrecht,Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner) Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R in Industry From

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Duncan Murdoch
, 2007 10:24 AM To: Albrecht,Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner) Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R in Industry From what I know Matlab is much more popular in fixed income than R, but R is vastly more popular in equities. R seems to be making quite a lot of headway

Re: [R] R in Industry - new SIG

2007-02-08 Thread Kuhn, Max
). Max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kuhn, Max Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:10 PM To: Doran, Harold; R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R in Industry As someone who has (reluctantly) sent job postings to R Help, I think

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Charilaos Skiadas
in this, I am relatively far from the industry world. Haris __ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Joe Byers
Equity Partner) Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R in Industry From what I know Matlab is much more popular in fixed income than R, but R is vastly more popular in equities. R seems to be making quite a lot of headway in finance, even in fixed income to some degree. At least

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Erik Iverson
) Albrecht, Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner) wrote: Dear all, I was reading with great interest your comments about the use of R in the industry. Personally, I use R as scripting language in the financial industry, not so much for its statistical capabilities (which are great), but more

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Joe Byers
Equity Partner) Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R in Industry From what I know Matlab is much more popular in fixed income than R, but R is vastly more popular in equities. R seems to be making quite a lot of headway in finance, even in fixed income to some degree. At least

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Ravi Varadhan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stefan Grosse Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:09 PM To: Albrecht, Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner) Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R

Re: [R] R in Industry - new SIG

2007-02-08 Thread Jim Porzak
. There are some simple rules for postings (e.g. no attachments etc). Max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kuhn, Max Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:10 PM To: Doran, Harold; R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R in Industry

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Spencer Graves
, then your company could hire an R programmer for a short time to fix whatever needs fixing, and that would be a much smaller expense than licensing an expensive package like those other ones out there. But perhaps I am completely wrong in this, I am relatively far from the industry

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread AA
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Burns Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:24 AM To: Albrecht,Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner) Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R in Industry From what I know Matlab is much more popular

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Albrecht, Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner)
Dear all, thanks a lot for your comments. You raise several important points. I also think that depending on a certain person maintaining a package can be dangerous, since this person might stop working on the package. Even if the package is handed over to a second one, the other guy may be

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Doran, Harold
or when it is removed by the person that created it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AA Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:23 PM To: Duncan Murdoch Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch; Ben Fairbank Subject: Re: [R] R in Industry I

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-08 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 2/8/07, Albrecht, Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, thanks a lot for your comments. You raise several important points. I also think that depending on a certain person maintaining a package can be dangerous, since this person might stop working on

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Lemon
Matthew Keller wrote: Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one that I imagine most people who use R have come across. The name R is a big impediment to effective online searches. As a check, I entered R software, SAS software, SPSS software, and S+ software into google.

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-07 Thread Romain Francois
=links:jobs Cheers, Romain -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doran, Harold Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:08 PM To: R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: [R] R in Industry The other day, CNN had a story on working at Google. Out

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-07 Thread Eric
Conversely, unqualified(*) candidates are nearly guaranteed to find support scarce here. More seriously, free job boards, highly targeted like the one proposed do seem to get enough traffic to make it worth the effort to post there. One example serving the US market for market research is

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-07 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
that allows me to use R/S+ since I got out of graduate school 2 years ago but with no success. I am wondering if there is something that can be done to promote the use of R in industry. It's been very frustrating to see people doing statistics using excel/spss and even more frustrating to see people

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-07 Thread Martin Maechler
/07, Wensui Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been looking for job that allows me to use R/S+ since I got out of graduate school 2 years ago but with no success. I am wondering if there is something that can be done to promote the use of R in industry. It's been very

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-07 Thread Barry Rowlingson
Matthew Keller wrote: I do wonder if anything can/should be done about this. I generally search using the term CRAN but of course, that omits lots of stuff relevant to R. Change the name in the next major version to 'Rplus'? Barry __

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-07 Thread Thomas Lumley
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote: That sounds like a good idea. The name R makes it especially hard to find job postings, resumes or do any other type of search. Googling resume+sas or job opening+sas is quick and fairly effective (less a few airline jobs). Doing that with R

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-07 Thread Paul Gilbert
of graduate school 2 years ago but with no success. I am wondering if there is something that can be done to promote the use of R in industry. It's been very frustrating to see people doing statistics using excel/spss and even more frustrating to see people paying

[R] R in Industry

2007-02-06 Thread Doran, Harold
The other day, CNN had a story on working at Google. Out of curiosity, I went to the Google employment web site (I'm not looking, but just curious). In perusing their job posts for statisticians, preference is given to those who use R and python. Other languages, S-Plus and something called SAS

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-06 Thread Kuhn, Max
As someone who has (reluctantly) sent job postings to R Help, I think that a SIG would be a good idea. Max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doran, Harold Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:08 PM To: R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: [R] R

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-06 Thread ¨Tariq Khan
@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: [R] R in Industry The other day, CNN had a story on working at Google. Out of curiosity, I went to the Google employment web site (I'm not looking, but just curious). In perusing their job posts for statisticians, preference is given to those who use R and python

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-06 Thread Bert Gunter
... two main drawbacks of R at our firm (as viewed by our IT dept) are lack of guaranteed support as well as the difficulty in finding candidates. -- Just an aside: lack of guaranteed support -- absolutely true in theory, absolutely false in practice. I doubt that the voluntary support found on

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-06 Thread Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doran, Harold Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:08 PM To: R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: [R] R in Industry The other day, CNN had a story on working at Google. Out of curiosity, I went to the Google employment web site (I'm not looking, but just curious). In perusing

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-06 Thread Wensui Liu
I've been looking for job that allows me to use R/S+ since I got out of graduate school 2 years ago but with no success. I am wondering if there is something that can be done to promote the use of R in industry. It's been very frustrating to see people doing statistics using excel/spss and even

Re: [R] R in Industry

2007-02-06 Thread Matthew Keller
to promote the use of R in industry. It's been very frustrating to see people doing statistics using excel/spss and even more frustrating to see people paying $$$ for something much inferior to R. On 2/6/07, Doran, Harold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other day, CNN had a story on working