On 2/12/2007 2:50 AM, Patrick Connolly wrote:
On Wed, 07-Feb-2007 at 07:07PM +1100, Jim Lemon wrote:
| Matthew Keller wrote:
| Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one that I
| imagine most people who use R have come across. The name R is a big
| impediment to
On Wed, 07-Feb-2007 at 07:07PM +1100, Jim Lemon wrote:
| Matthew Keller wrote:
| Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one that I
| imagine most people who use R have come across. The name R is a big
| impediment to effective online searches. As a check, I entered R
|
Ben Fairbank wrote:
To those following this thRead:
There was a thread on this topic a year or so ago on this list, in which
contributors mentioned reasons that corporate powers-that-be were
reluctant to commit to R as a corporate statistical platform. (My
favorite was There is no one to
I was under the impression that most software has a licence agreement
that does not allow you to sue them. If Windows crashes at a crucial
moment, and loses me millions of dollars [I can't imagine that
happening to me, but it might happen to someone], I don't think I can
sue microsoft.
A few
From what I know Matlab is much more popular in
fixed income than R, but R is vastly more popular in
equities. R seems to be making quite a lot of headway
in finance, even in fixed income to some degree.
At least to some extent, this is probably logical behavior --
fixed income is more
I just ran on my Windows PC the benchmark from
http://www.sciviews.org/benchmark/index.html which is pretty old now.
Thats probably the reason for the errors which I did not correct. As
you see R has some advantages but Matlab has also some advantages.
However the differences are not to big. There
Hi,
On 2/8/07, Albrecht, Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner)
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I would very much appreciate any comments on my above remarks. I know
there has been some discussions of R vs. Matlab on R-help, but these
could be somewhat out-dated, since both languages are evolving
with
ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
Ben Fairbank
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From what I know Matlab is much more popular in
fixed income than R, but R is vastly more popular in
equities. R seems to be making quite a lot of headway
).
Max
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As someone who has (reluctantly) sent job postings to R Help, I think
On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Ben Fairbank wrote:
If my company
came to depend heavily on a fairly obscure R package (as we are
contemplating doing), what guarantee is there that it will be
available
next month/year/decade? I know of none, nor would I expect one.
I would imagine that if
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From what I know Matlab is much more popular in
fixed income than R, but R is vastly more popular in
equities. R seems to be making quite a lot of headway
in finance, even in fixed income to some degree.
At least
with
ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
Ben Fairbank
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From what I know Matlab is much more popular in
fixed income than R, but R is vastly more popular in
equities. R seems to be making quite a lot of headway
in finance, even in fixed income to some degree.
At least
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. There are some simple rules
for postings (e.g. no attachments etc).
Max
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As Duncan indicated, I think R wins overwhelmingly on this point:
What should you do if a key software vendor decides to increase
their license fees beyond reason or obsolete a key product that burdens
you with excessive transition costs? Similarly, what do you do if you
want to
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From what I know Matlab is much more popular
Dear all,
thanks a lot for your comments.
You raise several important points. I also think that depending on a certain
person maintaining a package can be dangerous, since this person might stop
working on the package. Even if the package is handed over to a second one, the
other guy may be
or when it is
removed by the person that created it.
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I
On 2/8/07, Albrecht, Dr. Stefan (AZ Private Equity Partner)
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Dear all,
thanks a lot for your comments.
You raise several important points. I also think that depending on a certain
person maintaining a package can be dangerous, since this person might stop
working on
Matthew Keller wrote:
Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one that I
imagine most people who use R have come across. The name R is a big
impediment to effective online searches. As a check, I entered R
software, SAS software, SPSS software, and S+ software into
google.
Kuhn, Max wrote:
As someone who has (reluctantly) sent job postings to R Help, I think
that a SIG would be a good idea.
Max
Hi all,
My personnal experience also shows that it is difficult to find a job
where R is a key component, find R related material, or find companies
that would do
Conversely, unqualified(*) candidates are nearly guaranteed to find
support scarce here.
More seriously, free job boards, highly targeted like the one proposed
do seem to get enough traffic to make it worth the effort to post there.
One example serving the US market for market research is
Matthew Keller wrote:
Bob,
Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one that I
imagine most people who use R have come across. The name R is a big
impediment to effective online searches. As a check, I entered R
software, SAS software, SPSS software, and S+ software into
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on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:59:45 -0600 writes:
Frank Matthew Keller wrote:
Bob,
Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one
that I imagine most people who use R have come
across. The name R is a big
Matthew Keller wrote:
I do wonder if anything can/should be done about this. I generally
search using the term CRAN but of course, that omits lots of stuff
relevant to R.
Change the name in the next major version to 'Rplus'?
Barry
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On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:
That sounds like a good idea. The name R makes it especially hard to
find job postings, resumes or do any other type of search. Googling
resume+sas or job opening+sas is quick and fairly effective (less a
few airline jobs). Doing that with R
Martin Maechler wrote:
Frank == Frank E Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:59:45 -0600 writes:
Frank Matthew Keller wrote:
Bob,
Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one
that I imagine most people who use R have come
As someone who has (reluctantly) sent job postings to R Help, I think
that a SIG would be a good idea.
Max
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Our (financial) firm has struggled immensely with finding appropriate
candidates and I believe this would be *tremendously* useful. I really hope
that your suggestion is implemented. Importantly, I believe it would help
create a commercial presence for R, and secondly reduce use of products like
... two main drawbacks of R at our firm (as viewed by our IT dept) are lack
of
guaranteed support as well as the difficulty in finding candidates.
-- Just an aside: lack of guaranteed support -- absolutely true in theory,
absolutely false in practice. I doubt that the voluntary support found on
That sounds like a good idea. The name R makes it especially hard to
find job postings, resumes or do any other type of search. Googling
resume+sas or job opening+sas is quick and fairly effective (less a
few airline jobs). Doing that with R is of course futile. At the risk of
getting flamed, it's
I've been looking for job that allows me to use R/S+ since I got out
of graduate school 2 years ago but with no success. I am wondering if
there is something that can be done to promote the use of R in
industry.
It's been very frustrating to see people doing statistics using
excel/spss and even
Bob,
Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one that I
imagine most people who use R have come across. The name R is a big
impediment to effective online searches. As a check, I entered R
software, SAS software, SPSS software, and S+ software into
google. The R 'hit rate' was only
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