Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-30 Thread Chabot Denis
Hi again, Le 07-01-29 à 16:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:47:09 -0500 From: Simon Urbanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word? To: Don MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: R

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-30 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 1/30/2007 11:43 AM, Thomas Lumley wrote: On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, stefano iacus wrote: Please stop this dogmatic war against/in_favor_of Word Co. or I'm forced to close this thread. A dogma-free summary: Not only dogma-free, but quite accurate. Not 100% 1. Word (and the rest of

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-30 Thread Byron Ellis
On 1/30/07, Duncan Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5. R does not know how to produce .wmf -- under Windows, R does device-independent graphics calls that are translated to .wmf, .png, .jpeg, or screen images by the operating system as required. That's true for wmf and on-screen

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-30 Thread Martin Henry H. Stevens
Nice writing -- to the point. I have read the advice about png, and when I use bitmap with res=400, it is great. However, lower resolution (with drag and drop) is jaggy enough to be, IMHO, less- than publication quality and less than good enough for my presentations. This seems like a

[R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Martin Henry H. Stevens
Hi Folks, While I do not use Microsoft Word for my own work, I (i) I teach R to people who use Word and PowerPoint, and (ii) many people use Word around here would like to use R, but are frustrated about getting graphics into Word. My most recent response to a colleague, and my preferred

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Federico Calboli
On 29 Jan 2007, at 18:42, Martin Henry H. Stevens wrote: 4. The best success I had came when I stopped using Word, but I realize that that is NOT for everyone. Is a move being made to help folks who are wedded to Word? Such a move would be useful, I think. Unhelpful as it might sound, people

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Richard De Veaux
I don't think this forum is the appropriate place for personal harangues against Word. There are enough other R issues to keep us busy. Cheers, Dick De Veaux On 1/29/07 2:25 PM, Federico Calboli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 Jan 2007, at 19:07, Ben Bolker wrote: Have you ever tried to

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Federico Calboli
On 29 Jan 2007, at 19:35, Richard De Veaux wrote: I don't think this forum is the appropriate place for personal harangues against Word. There are enough other R issues to keep us busy. I disagree. I don't thing the developers of R for Mac shoud spend their time (which, I dare presume,

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Don MacQueen
I'd suggest you try using R's png() driver. I am satisfied with how graphics imported into Word or PowerPoint look if save using png(). Note that Adobe Illustrator for Mac has a Save for Microsoft Office option, and it saves in png format. -Don At 1:42 PM -0500 1/29/07, Martin Henry H.

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Byron Ellis
*ahem* I think the developers for the Mac version of R will do whatever they please. This may in fact include better compatibility with a certain office suite. It may not. Personally, I would like the ability to drag and drop (or cut and paste) from Excel to R's GUI directly into a data frame. I

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Don MacQueen wrote: I'd suggest you try using R's png() driver. I'd discourage that one a Mac as there is not really a need for that - Quartz produces PNG directly and it's WYSIWYG unlike the png() driver and Quartz has much better rendering. To get back on

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Byron Ellis
On 1/29/07, Simon Urbanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To get back on the topic: To be honest I don't really see a problem here - Word can handle PDF very easily, just drop a PDF file in a Word document - it works just fine (to make sure I'm talking about Office 2004 here). The fact that it

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Eric
Use Preview? I just saved a PDF created in R on linux into a PNG using Preview's conversion on Mac, then dragged the file off my desktop into a Word 2004 document on Mac. I opened the file using Word for Windows running under Parallels and it looked just fine. E.g. I could see and re-size the

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread stefano iacus
Please stop this dogmatic war against/in_favor_of Word Co. or I'm forced to close this thread. No-one obliges anyone to use Word and no product can be dangerous to R (by any meaning of the word dangerous). If someone wants to write code for some I/O API to allow interoperability between R

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Phillip Price
On Jan 29, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Don MacQueen wrote: I'd suggest you try using R's png() driver. I am satisfied with how graphics imported into Word or PowerPoint look if save using png(). Note that Adobe Illustrator for Mac has a Save for Microsoft Office option, and it saves in png format.

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Wiki or Development for Mac-R.app-graphics-insert-to-Word?

2007-01-29 Thread Martin Henry H. Stevens
Thank you everyone for your input. It is precisely all of this confusion/disagreement/incompatibilities that led me to post my query. I have just tried everything that has been suggested, and will try to summarize it a little. One issue is relative quality of images. How good is good