Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-12 Thread Matthias Felleisen
Thank you Sage for taking on this task. — Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-12 Thread Robby Findler
Great! I think I get moderation messages too, and I'm happy to help out in letting people in. Robby On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 12:25 PM Sage Gerard wrote: > Both racket-users and racket-dev have just now been changed to "Anyone > can ask." > > On 1/12/22 1:17 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > > On

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-12 Thread Sage Gerard
Both racket-users and racket-dev have just now been changed to "Anyone can ask." On 1/12/22 1:17 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:14 PM Sage Gerard wrote: >> Yes. I assumed was that (b) was not true, since I thought volunteers >> were hard to come by for most community

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-12 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:14 PM Sage Gerard wrote: > > Yes. I assumed was that (b) was not true, since I thought volunteers > were hard to come by for most community tasks. "Ask only" makes more > sense if someone can be found and made available at any time. > > All: I normally wait for a

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-12 Thread Sage Gerard
Yes. I assumed was that (b) was not true, since I thought volunteers were hard to come by for most community tasks. "Ask only" makes more sense if someone can be found and made available at any time. All: I normally wait for a go-ahead from a quorum before applying changes like this. If I don't

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-12 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
Here's my suggestion: we switch to "ask to join" on Google Groups. I think that will notify all the moderators, and thus (a) more people can potentially respond (eg, I think I currently get those emails too) and (b) if someone can no longer take on this responsibility, it's easy to have someone

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-11 Thread Sage Gerard
No no, that was helpful, thank you. We do need to figure this part out. On 1/11/22 2:22 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > Sorry, I probably shouldn't have jumped in here. I'm happy with whatever you > folks decide is best! > > Robby > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 1:09 PM Sage Gerard wrote: > >> Makes

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-11 Thread Robby Findler
Sorry, I probably shouldn't have jumped in here. I'm happy with whatever you folks decide is best! Robby On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 1:09 PM Sage Gerard wrote: > Makes sense. > > I'll repeat one key difference in the context of Google Groups > >- *Ask to join* > - Racket volunteer must

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-11 Thread Sage Gerard
Makes sense. I'll repeat one key difference in the context of Google Groups - Ask to join - Racket volunteer must be available for vetting requests, on receiving them. Member starts process in Google Groups - Invite only - Racket volunteer may vet first, but must initiate contact with member.

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-11 Thread Robby Findler
Probably people find out about the mailing list by the website, right? We could post an email address or two there where asks should go? Robby On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:41 PM Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > One thing to note here: it's now not possible to _request_ to join the > list. If

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-11 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
One thing to note here: it's now not possible to _request_ to join the list. If someone wants to join the list, they have to know someone who is already a member and ask them to join. It looks like another option is "Anyone on the web can ask" to join. It's not immediately clear who gets the

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2022-01-11 Thread Sage Gerard
Someone else wanted to chime in here. This email is just to make the thread easier for them to find. On 12/19/21 8:35 PM, Sorawee Porncharoenwase wrote: > FWIW, here're the settings of racket-users from the About tab: > > Anyone on the web: can see group > > Group owners and managers: can view

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-19 Thread Sorawee Porncharoenwase
FWIW, here're the settings of racket-users from the About tab: Anyone on the web: can see group Group owners and managers: can view members Anyone on the web: can view conversations Group members: can post Invited users: can join group and here're the settings of racket-dev: Anyone on the web:

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-19 Thread Nadeem Abdul Hamid
In other Google groups that I'm on, when I view the group, the links in the left bar read "Conversations", "Members", "About", "My membership settings". But in the Racket Users, there isn't a link to the "Members" list. On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 5:24 PM Sage Gerard wrote: > Looks like I scoped

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-19 Thread Sage Gerard
Looks like I scoped invitation powers to group managers, not members. Checking on this. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On Dec 19, 2021, 4:17 PM, Nadeem Abdul Hamid wrote: > I don't have any special privileges... when I view the Google group, I don't > see a

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-19 Thread Nadeem Abdul Hamid
I don't have any special privileges... when I view the Google group, I don't see a "Members" page at all and no where to invite anyone else. All I can access is a link "My membership settings". --- nadeem On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 3:49 PM Robby Findler wrote: > When I follow the link at the

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-19 Thread Robby Findler
When I follow the link at the bottom of one of these messages, click on members, I see an "add members" button and clicking on it gives me a place to add email addresses. I didn't actually add email addresses to the list and try to add them, and I might have already had special privileges on this

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-19 Thread Sage Gerard
Alright, thanks to all of you for the quick replies. As of this writing, the list has been reconfigured to create an explicit perimeter between the non-members and members. The public can no longer let themselves in. Not totally out of the woods yet. - Someone please confirm if you can invite

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-18 Thread Matthias Felleisen
+2! And many thanks. (I was personally spared this spam until very recently. No clue why) — Matthias > On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > > +1! Thank you. > > Robby > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 1:43 PM Matthew Flatt > wrote: > The "members"

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-18 Thread Robby Findler
+1! Thank you. Robby On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 1:43 PM Matthew Flatt wrote: > The "members" option sounds right to me. Thanks for tracking down a way > to improve the situation! > > At Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:35:23 +, Sage Gerard wrote: > > Core team, > > > > Sam asked me to issue bans for a

Re: [racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-18 Thread Matthew Flatt
The "members" option sounds right to me. Thanks for tracking down a way to improve the situation! At Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:35:23 +, Sage Gerard wrote: > Core team, > > Sam asked me to issue bans for a troublesome spammer. I've done so, even > just today. I understand I need quorum for larger

[racket-users] Core Team: I need you decide what I should do about the spammer.

2021-12-18 Thread Sage Gerard
Core team, Sam asked me to issue bans for a troublesome spammer. I've done so, even just today. I understand I need quorum for larger decisions. This is why I have not yet reconfigured the list to permanently stop the spammer. After researching the problem further, I need your urgent attention.