Re: [Radiant] New Site: West Port Book Festival

2008-07-22 Thread Sean Cribbs

Some anecdotal evidence:

On a site I've been working on recently that is still on 0.6.4, I added 
a published-date selector (like what is in 0.6.5+) to the UI using an 
extension, and converted a page that had been cherry-picking individual 
articles to use the aggregation extension.  When I did that, one article 
somehow had a published year of 2010 and popped up to the top of the 
listing.


Sean

Jim Gay wrote:

On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:43 AM, Andrew Neil wrote:
I was under the impression that if a page has a publishing date set 
in the
future, it would only become visible on the site from that date 
onwards. Now
that you mention it, I'm not sure if this is true in Radiant, 
although it is

the case with another CMS that I have used. I did wonder about adding a
field, called "occurs_on", and using it in the way you described 
above, but

in the end I thought it simpler to just use the Reorder extension.


It might make sense for that to be a part of the core, but it will 
change the behavior.
Radiant just checks if there is a published date, but doesn't care 
what it is.
The scheduler extension adds some nice features which allows you to 
set pages to appear and disappear on given dates

http://github.com/radiant/radiant-scheduler-extension/tree/master
Given the features that scheduler adds, I think it makes sense to 
leave the default Radiant behavior as is, but it's not entirely 
intuitive, so perhaps it should be rethought.

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Re: [Radiant] New Site: West Port Book Festival

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Gay

On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:43 AM, Andrew Neil wrote:
I was under the impression that if a page has a publishing date set  
in the
future, it would only become visible on the site from that date  
onwards. Now
that you mention it, I'm not sure if this is true in Radiant,  
although it is
the case with another CMS that I have used. I did wonder about  
adding a
field, called "occurs_on", and using it in the way you described  
above, but

in the end I thought it simpler to just use the Reorder extension.


It might make sense for that to be a part of the core, but it will  
change the behavior.
Radiant just checks if there is a published date, but doesn't care  
what it is.
The scheduler extension adds some nice features which allows you to  
set pages to appear and disappear on given dates

http://github.com/radiant/radiant-scheduler-extension/tree/master
Given the features that scheduler adds, I think it makes sense to  
leave the default Radiant behavior as is, but it's not entirely  
intuitive, so perhaps it should be rethought.

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Re: [Radiant] New Site: West Port Book Festival

2008-07-22 Thread Sean Cribbs

Drew,

Thanks for the advice (and the vote!). My original patch included tests, but
now that Radiant has moved on to specs I guess it has gone stale. I will try
forking Radiant, and translating my tests into specs. Does anyone know a
rough schedule for the next release?
  
Assuming I get some more time to work on Radiant this week, it will 
likely be on the weekend (probably Saturday).  I need to address 
existing tickets before I can get to a release stage though.


Sean
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Re: [Radiant] New Site: West Port Book Festival

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Neil
> Nice site! Well done.


Thanks.


> Couldn't you use the published date to order the events instead of reorder?
> Although, I personally haven't tried much with dates in the future.


I was under the impression that if a page has a publishing date set in the
future, it would only become visible on the site from that date onwards. Now
that you mention it, I'm not sure if this is true in Radiant, although it is
the case with another CMS that I have used. I did wonder about adding a
field, called "occurs_on", and using it in the way you described above, but
in the end I thought it simpler to just use the Reorder extension.


> I think people would find Wrappits useful.
> To get it in the core, you should fork Radiant and integrate it into your
> branch so that it is even easier than applying a patch. This would allow a
> core member to create a branch, pull your changes, and run your tests to see
> if it does what it is supposed to do. I'm fairly certain that it would not
> be added until you write your specs for it. Radiant is well tested and any
> new features should be well tested too.

But I'd certainly vote for it to be part of the core.


Thanks for the advice (and the vote!). My original patch included tests, but
now that Radiant has moved on to specs I guess it has gone stale. I will try
forking Radiant, and translating my tests into specs. Does anyone know a
rough schedule for the next release?

Cheers,

Drew


>
>
> On Jul 22, 2008, at 5:11 AM, Andrew Neil wrote:
>
>  having just heard about wrappits from this post, I am moved to wonder why
>>> this isn't part of core radiant behaviour
>>>
>>
>>
>> I thought so too, and submitted a patch[1] for it a while ago. I don't
>> think
>> I managed to convince the gatekeepers to let it in, so I finally got round
>> to releasing it as an extension.
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> [1]: http://dev.radiantcms.org/ticket/611
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Andrew Neil <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Announcing a new site built on Radiant:

  http://westportbookfestival.org/

 Designed by Will Brady, built by myself.

 I was determined to keep it simple, so kept the number of extensions to
 a
 minimum:

 * Reorder[1]
 * Sass[2]
 * Subscriber lists[3]
 * Wrappits[4]
 * Markdown

 I considered creating a new model to introduce Event and Venue models,

>>> but
>>>
 I decided that it was unnecessary. All the information I needed to store
 about a venue could easily fit within the page-with-parts paradigm. I

>>> just
>>>
 needed to add the reorder extension so I could order on the events
 chronologically.

 I wrote the Subscriber lists extension for this project. I would have

>>> liked
>>>
 to use the Newsletter extension, but I wasn't sure how to configure the
 server to send mail from our GMail.

 Shameless plug: If you are planning to be in Edinburgh this August, be

>>> sure
>>>
 to check out the West Port Book Festival. Events are all free!

 Cheers,
 Drew

>>>
>
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Re: [Radiant] New Site: West Port Book Festival

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Gay

Nice site! Well done.

Couldn't you use the published date to order the events instead of  
reorder? Although, I personally haven't tried much with dates in the  
future.


I think people would find Wrappits useful.
To get it in the core, you should fork Radiant and integrate it into  
your branch so that it is even easier than applying a patch. This  
would allow a core member to create a branch, pull your changes, and  
run your tests to see if it does what it is supposed to do. I'm fairly  
certain that it would not be added until you write your specs for it.  
Radiant is well tested and any new features should be well tested too.


But I'd certainly vote for it to be part of the core.
If you have time, integrate your changes now and it might become part  
of 0.6.8, which is shaping up to have some great new features and this  
would be a welcomed addition by me.


-Jim

On Jul 22, 2008, at 5:11 AM, Andrew Neil wrote:

having just heard about wrappits from this post, I am moved to  
wonder why

this isn't part of core radiant behaviour



I thought so too, and submitted a patch[1] for it a while ago. I  
don't think
I managed to convince the gatekeepers to let it in, so I finally got  
round

to releasing it as an extension.

Drew

[1]: http://dev.radiantcms.org/ticket/611




On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Andrew Neil <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


Announcing a new site built on Radiant:

  http://westportbookfestival.org/

Designed by Will Brady, built by myself.

I was determined to keep it simple, so kept the number of  
extensions to a

minimum:

* Reorder[1]
* Sass[2]
* Subscriber lists[3]
* Wrappits[4]
* Markdown

I considered creating a new model to introduce Event and Venue  
models,

but
I decided that it was unnecessary. All the information I needed to  
store
about a venue could easily fit within the page-with-parts  
paradigm. I

just

needed to add the reorder extension so I could order on the events
chronologically.

I wrote the Subscriber lists extension for this project. I would  
have

liked
to use the Newsletter extension, but I wasn't sure how to  
configure the

server to send mail from our GMail.

Shameless plug: If you are planning to be in Edinburgh this  
August, be

sure

to check out the West Port Book Festival. Events are all free!

Cheers,
Drew



Jim Gay
http://www.saturnflyer.com



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Re: [Radiant] New Site: West Port Book Festival

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Neil
> having just heard about wrappits from this post, I am moved to wonder why
> this isn't part of core radiant behaviour


I thought so too, and submitted a patch[1] for it a while ago. I don't think
I managed to convince the gatekeepers to let it in, so I finally got round
to releasing it as an extension.

Drew

[1]: http://dev.radiantcms.org/ticket/611


>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Andrew Neil <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Announcing a new site built on Radiant:
> >
> >http://westportbookfestival.org/
> >
> > Designed by Will Brady, built by myself.
> >
> > I was determined to keep it simple, so kept the number of extensions to a
> > minimum:
> >
> > * Reorder[1]
> > * Sass[2]
> > * Subscriber lists[3]
> > * Wrappits[4]
> > * Markdown
> >
> > I considered creating a new model to introduce Event and Venue models,
> but
> > I decided that it was unnecessary. All the information I needed to store
> > about a venue could easily fit within the page-with-parts paradigm. I
> just
> > needed to add the reorder extension so I could order on the events
> > chronologically.
> >
> > I wrote the Subscriber lists extension for this project. I would have
> liked
> > to use the Newsletter extension, but I wasn't sure how to configure the
> > server to send mail from our GMail.
> >
> > Shameless plug: If you are planning to be in Edinburgh this August, be
> sure
> > to check out the West Port Book Festival. Events are all free!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Drew
> >
> >
> > [1]: http://github.com/radiant/radiant-reorder-extension/tree/master
> > [2]: http://github.com/radiant/radiant-sass-filter-extension/tree
> > [3]: http://github.com/nelstrom/radiant-subscriber-lists-extension/tree
> > [4]: http://github.com/nelstrom/radiant-wrappits-extension/tree
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Re: [Radiant] New Site: West Port Book Festival

2008-07-22 Thread Aleks Clark
having just heard about wrappits from this post, I am moved to wonder why
this isn't part of core radiant behaviour

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Andrew Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Announcing a new site built on Radiant:
>
>http://westportbookfestival.org/
>
> Designed by Will Brady, built by myself.
>
> I was determined to keep it simple, so kept the number of extensions to a
> minimum:
>
> * Reorder[1]
> * Sass[2]
> * Subscriber lists[3]
> * Wrappits[4]
> * Markdown
>
> I considered creating a new model to introduce Event and Venue models, but
> I decided that it was unnecessary. All the information I needed to store
> about a venue could easily fit within the page-with-parts paradigm. I just
> needed to add the reorder extension so I could order on the events
> chronologically.
>
> I wrote the Subscriber lists extension for this project. I would have liked
> to use the Newsletter extension, but I wasn't sure how to configure the
> server to send mail from our GMail.
>
> Shameless plug: If you are planning to be in Edinburgh this August, be sure
> to check out the West Port Book Festival. Events are all free!
>
> Cheers,
> Drew
>
>
> [1]: http://github.com/radiant/radiant-reorder-extension/tree/master
> [2]: http://github.com/radiant/radiant-sass-filter-extension/tree
> [3]: http://github.com/nelstrom/radiant-subscriber-lists-extension/tree
> [4]: http://github.com/nelstrom/radiant-wrappits-extension/tree
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