Because Logitech wants the users registered to make service requests
easier, this way they know a lot about your configuration.
You would shake your head did you know how stupid the real reason was...
It has nothing to do with marketing, engineering etc.
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Michael
mherger;690409 Wrote:
Because Logitech wants the users registered to make service requests
easier, this way they know a lot about your configuration.
You would shake your head did you know how stupid the real reason
was...
It has nothing to do with marketing, engineering etc.
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As a new user, I am confused by the requirement for a mysqueezebox.com
account to set up my new Radio. I can understand the need if listening
to Pandora, etc., but during initial setup why am I forced to create an
account when connecting to a local server? It seems that if the
website goes down
Because Logitech wants the users registered to make service requests
easier, this way they know a lot about your configuration.
Other iOS Apps for the Squeezebox don't have that requirement :D
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I believe you can bypass MySB setup and just connect to your local
server. Been a while, but I think it is hitting the Home button or the
back arrow?
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buffettck;689821 Wrote:
I wouldn't call them stand alone units in any sense of the word. Yes,
it's a self-contained piece of hardware, but you cannot use it without
an internet connection...and the requisite hardware on the other end to
access it...
What they mean by 'stand-alone' is that
TopGeek;689858 Wrote:
What bothers me more about the SBR is that it is dependent on the server
for functions that are local in ther stand-alone radios - such as
alarms.
Yes, except that unlike the others, you can download the Logitech Media
Server software to your computer or NAS and still
virgiliomi;689862 Wrote:
Yes, except that unlike the others, you can download the Logitech Media
Server software to your computer or NAS and still use your radio to
play local music and internet radio streams that you have a direct URL
for, even if Logitech were to stop providing the
virgiliomi;689862 Wrote:
Yes, except that unlike the others, you can download the Logitech Media
Server software to your computer or NAS and still use your radio to
play local music and internet radio streams that you have a direct URL
for, even if Logitech were to stop providing the
castalla;689864 Wrote:
The local server is a key plus point for Logi devices. I also have a
cheap Chinese radio which has an onboard web server interface where you
can add stream urls directly - it's a pain to use, but useful since the
online database did close down!
Although I downloaded
With a plug computer running LMS, you can even continue to play music if
the Internet goes down permanently in a zombie outbreak. As long as
you've got your own generator and plenty of fuel ammunition, you can
keep listening to music 'till the zombies get you.
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Soulkeeper;689907 Wrote:
With a plug computer running LMS, you can even continue to play music if
the Internet goes down permanently in a zombie outbreak. As long as
you've got your own generator and plenty of fuel ammunition, you can
keep listening to music 'till the zombies get you.
This
TopGeek;689902 Wrote:
Although I downloaded the server during setup, I never use it and always
turn the computer off at night for energy saving reasons.
Your Chinese radio experience rather emphasises the point of this
thread.
I can only speak for Reciva radios - you are stuffed if Reciva
Stand-alone Internet radios should be able to work with any of the
servers that provide streaming radio access.
There is, for example, the Sangean WFR-20 or the Sanyo R227. As I said
earlier, my concern is the limitation of being tied to a single
dedicated server such as mysqueezebox.com.
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buffettck;689376 Wrote:
No, it's not disposable. Why would I bin it on a regular basis?
It's a radio, player, whatever. It does what it does...deliver
audio content from the internet or a local server... Would you also
toss a perfectly good, working AM/FM radio?
Now, if something
TopGeek;689763 Wrote:
Stand-alone Internet radios should be able to work with any of the
servers that provide streaming radio access.
There is, for example, the Sangean WFR-20 or the Sanyo R227.
Is that really true ? I assumed they were pretty much all tied to the
Reciva service. Can you
Topgeeks statement that internet radios can connect to a variety of
online servers is nonsense. The service provider is 'hardwired' into
the firmware, and in some instances probably into the hardware.
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castalla;689770 Wrote:
Topgeeks statement that internet radios can connect to a variety of
online servers is nonsense. The service provider is 'hardwired' into
the firmware, and in some instances probably into the hardware.
well it is true that TopGeek is having a hard time believing that
TopGeek;689763 Wrote:
Stand-alone Internet radios should be able to work with any of the
servers that provide streaming radio access.
There is, for example, the Sangean WFR-20 or the Sanyo R227. As I said
earlier, my concern is the limitation of being tied to a single
dedicated server such
garym;689783 Wrote:
well it is true that TopGeek is having a hard time believing that this
is true. Every example he has provided in fact requires a server
somewhere (many reciva). I admit that I didn't understand this concept
of server and internet radio when I first started down this path.
TopGeek;689818 Wrote:
lose the database and your Internet radio is useless, unless the
manufacturer is able to provide an upgrade to link to an alternative
database, which seems unlikely.
You're welcome and this is actually one of the things I like about SB
players. They have options for
TopGeek;689818 Wrote:
Thanks for you understanding response. Yes, I had not grasped the fact
that, even though there are several Internet 'receivers' on the market
that are described as 'stand-alone' units
I wouldn't call them stand alone units in any sense of the word.
Yes, it's a
garym;689819 Wrote:
May require your own computer to be on (or a NAS), but better than
nothing that would likely result with these other radios.
And you can be sure that within a few days or weeks of mysqueezebox.com
vanishing, someone here will have hacked the Radio to act independently
of
I know networking AVR's like Yamaha and Pioneer are dependent on vTuner
for online internet content. In fact Yamaha is very similar to the
MySqueezebox connection architecture in that your AVR connects to the
Yamaha online server which then utilizes vTuner as it's content
provider for menu's,
So I was right! All of these ifs, buts and maybes still come down to the
same thing - unlike most, if not all, other Internet radios, the SBR
cannot be used to access radio stations directly. Considering that it
costs as much as other Internat radios that also offer DAB and FM
reception, I find
That's not true. Most other internet radios use similar services like
Receiva's
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IIRC Years ago Turtle beach Audiotron had similar problem and user
managed to keep their own network server going for a number of years.
Interesting possible similar scenario with Harmony Link recently
appeared due to bug in iOS. The Engadget quote was
While we're sure this is a temporary
TopGeek;689221 Wrote:
So I was right! All of these ifs, buts and maybes still come down to the
same thing - unlike most, if not all, other Internet radios, the SBR
cannot be used to access radio stations directly. Considering that it
costs as much as other Internat radios that also offer DAB
TopGeek;689221 Wrote:
So I was right! All of these ifs, buts and maybes still come down to the
same thing - unlike most, if not all, other Internet radios, the SBR
cannot be used to access radio stations directly. Considering that it
costs as much as other Internat radios that also offer DAB
Mnyb;689251 Wrote:
Is that not a well known US hobby a storm-shelter filled with corned
beef guns guns guns, join the militia ;)
ah yes. Canned goods, guns, ammunition, a generator, fuel, SB players,
and 250,000 tracks. Ready for the end times First song in
playlist, The End (The
garym;689249 Wrote:
p.s. my little box I bought to be able to stream NETFLIX movies to my
TV will also be worthless if NETFLIX goes out of business.
What little box is this? A ROKU? NETFLIX could die today and I
wouldn't care. Plenty of other options for streaming content. Plus
the
buffettck;689256 Wrote:
What little box is this? A ROKU? NETFLIX could die today and I
wouldn't care. Plenty of other options for streaming content. Plus
the USB port. We download everything we want to watch and throw it on
a thumb drive. No cable or satellite bills for us! ;)
its a
Yes, of course they all need to pass through a server to access Internet
radio services but the choice of server is up to the user. The SBR is
only compatible with the Logitech servers and relies on them for most
of its functionality. As I said earlier, the SBR is not an Internet
radio - it's a
buffettck;689258 Wrote:
Then it's not completely useless, as you claimed, if NETFLIX were to
disappear tomorrow...
it was an example! And yes, it is useless for streaming netflix if
netflix goes away. It still works as a bluray player. Just like SB
players still work as local music or
TopGeek;689259 Wrote:
Yes, of course they all need to pass through a server to access Internet
radio services but the choice of server is up to the user. The SBR is
only compatible with the Logitech servers and relies on them for most
of its functionality. As I said earlier, the SBR is not
TopGeek;689259 Wrote:
Yes, of course they all need to pass through a server to access Internet
radio services but the choice of server is up to the user. The SBR is
only compatible with the Logitech servers and relies on them for most
of its functionality. As I said earlier, the SBR is not
TopGeek;689259 Wrote:
Yes, of course they all need to pass through a server to access Internet
radio services but the choice of server is up to the user. The SBR is
only compatible with the Logitech servers and relies on them for most
of its functionality. As I said earlier, the SBR is not
buffettck;689284 Wrote:
Then I guess there's no such thing as AM/FM radio, either because that's
just a stream broadcast in the RF spectrum and the box at the other
end is just a player, too, huh?
semanticsthis is an internet forum, not my PhD dissertation.
And the main point here
erland;689299 Wrote:
Let's not worry about mysqueezebox.com end of life before there at least
are some kind of indication that Logitech plans to shut it down.
Agree!
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garym
*Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch,
Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet
Let's not worry about mysqueezebox.com end of life before there at least
are some kind of indication that Logitech plans to shut it down.
At the moment, as far as I know, there is no indications that Logitech
plans to shutdown mysqueezebox.com, quite the opposite actually, they
are scaling it
For example, tivoli makes some internet radio capable players (that are
also AM/FM if desired). I have a few of the original AM/FM radios from
them and they're nice little bedside radios with AUX in for ipod, etc.
http://www.tivoliaudio.com/networks-global-radio-walnut-gold.html
But to access
erland;689299 Wrote:
Let's not worry about mysqueezebox.com end of life..
Ok, but I do understand those guys a bit .
Are a squeezbox an audio product hifi lifespan decades you can be
burried with it ?
Or a gadget/computer thing, like your phone you bin it on regular basis
thinking nothing
Mnyb;689359 Wrote:
Ok, but I do understand those guys a bit .
Are a squeezbox an audio product hifi lifespan decades you can be
burried with it ?
Or a gadget/computer thing, like your phone you bin it on regular basis
thinking nothing about it ?
No, it's not disposable. Why would I
It would be interesting to know because, if they ever shut it down, our
SBRs will apparently be virtually useless.
Please tell me I'm mistaken.
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TopGeek
Licenced radio amateur. Electronics/IT engineer. Translator of Dutch and
French to English. Received SBR as a Christmas present 2011.
That's actually a very good question. I'd like to know the answer to
this as well. Perhaps a third party would write some kind of
application to emulate the squeezebox server...
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buffettck
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buffettck;689147 Wrote:
That's actually a very good question. I'd like to know the answer to
this as well. Perhaps a third party would write some kind of
application to emulate the squeezebox server...
You mean like, Squeezebox Server (or LMS as it is now called)...
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andynormancx
buffettck;689147 Wrote:
That's actually a very good question. I'd like to know the answer to
this as well. Perhaps a third party would write some kind of
application to emulate the squeezebox server...
SB players can work until the player breaks. Mysb.com not needed. You
will always be
andynormancx;689149 Wrote:
You mean like, Squeezebox Server (or LMS as it is now called)...
LMS on your computer will work even if Logitech ceases to exist. It
doesn't require a connection to mysb.com for many of its functions.
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*Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1
For the how long question: not at all they can shut it down tonight.
But that is equally true of Sonos and its software for access to things
like pandora, etc.
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Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
buffettck;689157 Wrote:
How would one enter the URL manually on the radio itself?
On LMS running on your computer or NAS. if you only use mysb.com,
that's a problem I guess.
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Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet
garym;689148 Wrote:
SB players can work until the player breaks. Mysb.com not needed. You
will always be able to play your own music, Internet radio where you
can enter the URL (ie most of them) and any services where someone
provides a 3rd party plugin (eg spotify).
How would one enter the
garym;689158 Wrote:
On LMS running on your computer or NAS. if you only use mysb.com, that's
a problem I guess.
Ok, I guess this is where I need educating. What is LMS and how does
it work (i.e. is it easy to use)?
Also, I'm guessing if the squeezebox server went down, I could not just
up
buffettck;689159 Wrote:
Ok, I guess this is where I need educating. What is LMS and how does it
work (i.e. is it easy to use)?
Also, I'm guessing if the squeezebox server went down, I could not just
up and take the radio on vacation (alone, no laptop, etc) and expect to
pull all my
aubuti;689169 Wrote:
LMS is Logitech Media Server. It's software that runs on your computer
or NAS (network attached storage) for serving audio to Squeezeboxes.
The biggest difference from mysb.com is that LMS allows you to play
your own music, provided it is on a hard disk available
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