I though the Rivendell offer was generous in spirit and in practice.
What they were offering was clear. Seems odd to pick it apart...
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Quoting rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com:
The whole discount thing was a little unclear. I read it several times
and still kind of thought it was a discount for all members who had
been affected by the poor economy. Too many ifs, ands, and ors...
(apostrophe or not?).
Here's what they
Actually, it may be simpler to order an appropriate threadless fork at the
same time. The steerer tube is just set into the fork crown, and it could be
just a matter of getting an unthreaded tube put in. That way, you have the
dimension of fork blades that the bicycle was designed for.
shipping yr ride
to an lbs
is always an option
ive had many folks over the yrs
ask to ship to the shop
no charge for them to have it arrive and pick up
ive never had another lbs charge me anything for doing same
of course i dont ask em to assemble
nor do i ask to use their tools
take enuf to
On Dec 23, 2008, at 1:20 AM, rob markwardt wrote:
The whole discount thing was a little unclear. I read it several times
and still kind of thought it was a discount for all members who had
been affected by the poor economy. Too many ifs, ands, and ors...
(apostrophe or not?).
It didn't
Perhaps a bit off the wall, but couldn't you buy a threaded fork with a too
long steerer and cut the threaded bit off?
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Quoting JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com:
Actually, it may be simpler to order an appropriate threadless fork at the
same time. The steerer tube is just set into the fork crown, and it could be
just a matter of getting an unthreaded tube put in. That way, you have the
dimension of fork
Cutting the threaded part off works just fine, if the steerer is long
enough. In the case of my fixie, I did find a few threadless forks on
eBay and such some time back, but I was having trouble even finding a
new threadless steerer that's long enough for a 25 frame. Typical
9/8 threadless
Even more sensible, IMO, would be to decide to get along with the fork
that came with the bike, or if a threaded fork is a show-stopper, to
get a different frame, one with a threadless fork. There are plenty
enough of them.
I am on your side on this. As long as Nitto is making its
I understand why a lot of cyclists want to hang on to forged aluminum
stems for aesthetic reasons. But like lugs, pneumatic tires,
cotterless cranks, aluminum rims and dozens of other things, they were
introduced as a technical improvement. Forged aluminum stems are much
lighter than forged steel
Sorry to hear that Tim. I know you have all that old McNamara money
behind you, but let me know if you guys need any help with anything.
Personally, I found the discount to be a clever bit of marketing.
Discounts, even steep ones, aren't uncommon in the bike business this
time of year, and
Like cassette hubs, index shifting, dual pivot brakes, single rail
saddles, and on and on, threadless forks have a certain inevitability
about them because they are technical improvements. Yes, it's easier
to raise and lower your bars within a narrow range with a quill stem,
but that's the
I can see valid points on both sides of this issue and I have bikes
with threadless as well as threaded steering tubes/stems. But one
thing found out the hard way about threadless that has made me a wee
bit leery - if you buy a cheapo threadless stem, and the bottom edge
of it (the part where it
I was both impressed with Rivendell and touched by the offer.
Literally. I lost my job in May of last year - due to both company
restructuring and the economy. It had been slow at my employer for the
last year or two.
Unfortunately when the discount came down I couldn't afford to spend
the
Like Jim, I'd take that bet as well. :-) I'm always on the active
lookout for Legolas in the wild, and to date have only seen them as CX
race bikes or road-ish/brevet bikes.
So how much were you considering waging? Perhaps a slice of pumpkin
pie, washed down with a pint?
Gino
On Tue, Dec
Sold! Thanks for your interest.
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Quoting George Schick bhim...@gmail.com:
Now, this is not to imply that a similar thing couldn't happen to a
threaded set up, but they're usually things you have to look for ahead
of time anyway - are the top and bottom edges of head tube straight
and parallel, is the crown race evenly
I've used, and adjusted, exactly one threadless stem in all my years of
riding, and (1) I was hugely impressed with how easy it is to adjust; not
only easy, but simple! But (2) I was also very disconcerted (and I realize
that this is a purely personal reaction) when I couldn't easily fine tune
the
On Dec 23, 11:25 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
I've used, and adjusted, exactly one threadless stem in all my years of
riding, and (1) I was hugely impressed with how easy it is to adjust; not
only easy, but simple! But (2) I was also very disconcerted (and I realize
that this
I have a new, 36-hole Velocity Synergy, non O/C, and
I have a new, 32-hole Velocity Blunt, non O/C, but I need a
new, 32-hole Velocity Synergy, non O/C. All 650b (or 584mm) sized.
I'd like to trade either rim, straight up.
I also have a new, 36-hole Mavic A719, 700c rim that I'd be happy to
All you need do to remedy (2) above is to not chop the steerer down
all the way, leaving a little space both above and below the stem for
spacers. Or, if you're really picky, use an NVO stem
system:http://www.nvocomponents.com/
But then you either have ugly steerer tube protuding atop the
Unless I'm missing something, there's no need to cut the threaded
portion off. One possible hiccup would be if the uppermost race
couldn't be slid into place over the threads, but I think that's
unlikely. The stem will then clamp quite happily over the threads.
In order to keep the geometry as
On Dec 23, 11:53 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems to me that if you want a bike with a threadless headset that
you might want to go with something other than a Rivendell. Unless you
get a Legolas. There are tons of custom frame builders willing to make
lugged frames with threadless
Exactly! Talk about drinking the Kool Aid; the consumers all bought into the
differences as improvements, when, in fact, the differences are only
differences. Most threadless stems are just ugly. I suppose some are a tad
lighter, but this was never the reason for the new design. And what's
I believe that it's not recommended to clamp threadless stems on threaded
steerers. Stress risers, catastrophic failure, that sort of thing.
Really, the 1 threaded setup is nearly as ubiquitous to Rivendell as
lugs--there are plenty plenty of bikes out there to choose from if the quill
On Dec 23, 12:15 pm, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote:
Exactly! Talk about drinking the Kool Aid; the consumers all bought into the
differences as improvements, when, in fact, the differences are only
differences. Most threadless stems are just ugly. I suppose some are a tad
Please keep in mind that no one here has said they thought Riv should
abandon threaded forks; only that for those of us who could derive a
benefit from it (real or imagined), it would be great to have the
option of a threadless setup. Either as an option on a new Riv, or
from some aftermarket
Quoting jim g yoj...@gmail.com:
This one's certainly not ugly...
http://flickr.com/photos/t2architect/3128394163/in/set-72157610331529941/
No, not hardly! What is that luscious thing, anyway?
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Dunno, but I'll bet it cost more than a Technomic Deluxe! B-)
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Can't access his site right now (some miserable weather in Wisconsin,
maybe it knocked down a power line) but it looks like something from
Jonnycycles.
I have a custom Jonnycycle threadless stem on my threadless fork bike.
(I went with brushed nickel rather than the bright chrome). It is
I just don't see this as some kind of competition.
Threadless stems came about for several good reasons, and that should
not be a threat to anyone. Both systems have their advantages. Not
being able to find a steel road fork with a 1 threadless steer tube
is a bit like not being able to find a
I think, opine, consider, think, presume, and believe that Grant was wholly
altruistic in his offer, and I applaud, congratulate, en-kudo, praise,
commend, and acclaim it whole heartedly.
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No!!! I don't want steerer sticking up above my stem!!! Abominable! Won't do
it!!!
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:00 PM, jim g yoj...@gmail.com wrote:
All you need do to remedy (2) above is to not chop the steerer down
all the way, leaving a little space both above and below the stem for
http://flickr.com/photos/t2architect/3128394163/in/set-72157610331529941/
Gawd, that's even *pretty!
IIRC, my brother had an old tandem frameset from the 1930s with a clamp on
stem rather like the pinch bolt system used on tricycles when I was a child.
Not elegant, but obviously not new, either.
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:04 PM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote:
How's your quill stem look when you pull it out every year for
greasing?
[snippo]
And if you don't pull it out every year? Good luck getting it out (if
you rode it at all that year).
Huh? ***HUH* I've
Pull it out *every year for greasing*?
Blpfpht ppffft pop! crackle! Fwooom! That doesn't compute.
Thanks to Bill The Cat for weighing in on the topic..
I have to agree though, service bike parts as needed. Like most things, YMMV.
Regarding the now furious debate about
We've got to find a good long hill where we can watch. I went with some
people from LA last year to the top of a grade somewhere out maybe in
Ventura County. It was a circus a lot of fun. The actual race group goes
by so quickly, even on a steep grade, it's pretty amazing. But it's one of
On Dec 23, 12:49 pm, palin...@his.com wrote:
Quoting jim g yoj...@gmail.com:
This one's certainly not ugly...
http://flickr.com/photos/t2architect/3128394163/in/set-72157610331529...
No, not hardly! What is that luscious thing, anyway?
Custom Toei. Not mine, unfortunately.
-Jim G
Considering the recent weather all over the country, I'd be inclined to cut
'em some slack. Hey, you've got great reading for the next snowstorm!
dougP
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
Neither snow nor rain nor heat of day nor gloom of night shall stay
To get your bikes around domestically, look into shipping via either Fed Ex
or UPS ground. Contact your motel ask them to take delivery of your bike
ship it so it gets there a day or 2 ahead of you. Then when you leave you
just re-pack your bike, ship it home. Usually runs around $45-50
So is this some kind of legislative process whereby we determine what
kind of steer tube is right and proper for all, which then becomes the
law of the land? Have I missed something? I thought I was joining a
discussion of possible ways to get a threadless fork on a Rivendell or
similar bike. Is
All you need do to remedy (2) above is to not chop the steerer down
all the way, leaving a little space both above and below the stem for
spacers. Or, if you're really picky, use an NVO stem system:
http://www.nvocomponents.com/
-Jim G
Their motion graphic gives a
Between the 4th and 11th works fine for me...
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Chris fourf...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm in Sonoma County until the 30th, but could do something after
that.
On Dec 23, 5:56 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm interested, for sure. It would be nice to meet
I just shipped a bike to a UPS customer center near the customer's
home. It was much cheaper than it usually is when I ship it to a
business or residential address.
I'd also recommend paying a bike shop that does mail order to pack and
ship the bike. The shop will generally provide a used box
on 12/23/08 5:18 PM, Atlantean at softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com wrote:
So is this some kind of legislative process whereby we determine what
kind of steer tube is right and proper for all, which then becomes the
law of the land? Have I missed something? I thought I was joining a
The threadless CT-80 below it is pretty...
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:07 PM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 23, 8:18 pm, Atlantean softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com
wrote:
I removed an Albatross bar from my Atlantis even though I liked it a
lot, simply because I could
I'm not a fan of the 7 shaped stem, and I really really don't like the
looks of track stems. A track stem and an Albatross bar? I don't think
so.
The Atlantis comes with 15mm of spacers (I think) under the top nut. I
couild have shortened the steer tube up by that much and that might
have
Thanks. The maxy fasty pair has been traded.
Rene
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Date: 12/23/2008 11:04:11 AM
Subject: Re: WTT: maxy fasty with col de la vie
Hi Rene,
Have
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