Re: [RBW] Re: Now threaded steer tube (was lug vs. tig)

2009-12-11 Thread James Warren
This is marginally on-topic I guess, because it's mentioned in the latest Rivendell catalog, but I just want to briefly point out that the quill stem has been important to me because of the ease of bar height adjustment WHILE OUT ON A RIDE. I should have made that distinction clear. I won't go

[RBW] Re: Now threaded steer tube (was lug vs. tig)

2009-12-11 Thread JoelMatthews
I hear this again and again, but it's just not true. Threadless allows easy adjustment of bar height if the steerer isn't cut too short. This is true, if, and especially with higher end bikes a real big if, the owner is happy with having a spacer atop the threadless stem. I know many people

[RBW] Re: New Rivendell Frames, Last Chance Atlantis

2009-12-11 Thread Patrick in VT
On Dec 11, 2:04 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: A forward facing horizontal drop out is meant for derailers.  Whatever you want to call the rear facing thingy, it is not. FYI - on this bombadil, the track end has a derailer. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread Seth Vidal
This is not a rivendell bike but it is modern lugged steel. I thought I would share these contrasting photos with everyone. Consider this a cautionary tale: Before Fedex: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/34509120_bc65826f8a_b.jpg After Fedex:

[RBW] Re: Now threaded steer tube (was lug vs. tig)

2009-12-11 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Most threadless stems/headsets require only a 5 mm allen to change the height. Quick and easy. You can do it while on a ride. On Dec 11, 4:39 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: This is marginally on-topic I guess, because it's mentioned in the latest Rivendell catalog, but I just

[RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread newenglandbike
Wow, that is awful. I'm sorry that happened and hope you can get it repaired without too much trouble. thanks for the warning. On Dec 11, 6:05 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: This is not a rivendell bike but it is modern lugged steel. I thought I would share these contrasting photos

Re: [RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:38 PM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, that is awful.   I'm sorry that happened and hope you can get it repaired without too much trouble.   thanks for the warning. Getting it repaired will be simple in contrast to getting the responsible party to

[RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread newenglandbike
Yeah I know what you mean.Geez you'd think they put the box in a compactor or something. On Dec 11, 6:42 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:38 PM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, that is awful. I'm sorry that happened and hope you can

[RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread Cycletex
Oh man... I just shipped my Quickbeam back to headquarters via FedEx... dang. On Dec 11, 5:05 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: This is not a rivendell bike but it is modern lugged steel. I thought I would share these contrasting photos with everyone. Consider this a cautionary tale:

[RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread eflayer
is the blame on fedex or whoever packed it for shipping. if someone shipped that Kogswell P with the lug points unprotected, then it ain't fed ex's fault. by the way those lug points were freakishly long and dangerous as daggers...and just wating to get bent somehow. On Dec 11, 3:48 pm,

[RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Both UPS and FedEx break stuff once in awhile. I have had UPS reimburse me fairly for damage/loss numerous times, but I'm 0/1 with FedEx. On Dec 11, 5:05 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: This is not a rivendell bike but it is modern lugged steel. I thought I would share these contrasting

[RBW] Re: Now threaded steer tube (was lug vs. tig)

2009-12-11 Thread newenglandbike
The trouble with adjusting bars w/threadless on the go is that sometimes it can be hard to get the compression right with threadless, especially if you are using needle-bearings, which can be touchy IME. With threaded you don't have that issue, you can just dial-in your headset once and then

[RBW] Re: Would it be against the law - a tigged Rivendell?

2009-12-11 Thread eflayer
There is no place I found in the catalogue Grant says anything about the Roadeo being out there from a Riv perspective. Me thinks I missed it or you be making up stuff. On Dec 11, 12:11 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Headtubes on BLT and BLTaiwans are short... Geometry is close

[RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread doug peterson
Check out the recent discussion under My Quickbeam arrived 10 minutes ago. The poster was kind enough to photo how Riv packs a bike (an awesome job). They use a specific foam block to protect the seat cluster, and even mount it to a plug that goes in the ST. The block is maybe 4 thick. The

[RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread Ken Yokanovich
I deal a lot with manufacturers shipping. Federal Express generally runs lower in number of claims. Of course statistics don't help much when it's YOUR claim. Sorry to see the damage. The good thing about Rivendell shipping frames is that the seat lug has been protected with a bit of an

[RBW] Re: Old pictures of First bike Tour.

2009-12-11 Thread doug peterson
Manny: An excellent resource for touring the area is Bicycling the Pacific Coast by Vicky Spring Tom Kirkendall, from the Mountaineer Press in Seattle. I've used this book for over 20 years, currently on the 4th edition. They did the original research and now update as people send in new info.

Re: [RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread David Faller
Consider the amount of force it took to do this much damage to cast steel. This carton was BADLY mishandled, regardless of how it was packed. - Original Message - From: eflayer To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: a study in

[RBW] Re: Our New Bike Catalog Is On The Site

2009-12-11 Thread doug peterson
John: OK, someone's got to whine and nit-pick, today it's my turn: 2009 has less than 3 weeks left. Is it too late to make it a 2010 catalogue? Just sayin'. dougP On Dec 11, 10:22 am, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: a sneak preview can be found by following this to a PDF

Re: [RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread Robert F. Harrison
The link to the set of photos is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157622964863214/ The specific image with the block that went onto the seat cluster is: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2525/4171117138_7da9595d3c_b.jpg As for the box, I made a mistake earlier and should have noted

Re: [RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread cyclotourist
It looks like Seth had one of those round plastic protector on the end of the tube which SHOULD protect it if carried correctly (top up!) Looks like they instead first DROPPED the box, and then DRAGGED it around the shipping facility or shipped it upside down in the back of the truck after

Re: [RBW] a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread tarik saleh
Seth, That is probably the most common shipping damage for pointed seat lugs. I am not sure how it was packed, but if it was only one of those plastic load spreaders, that is not enough. If you or anyone else ship bikes with seat lugs like that, put a seatpost or dowel in there clamped tight. Or

[RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread Jim Cloud
Seth, Here's a cautionary tale. I've shipped two complete bicycles that I've sold on eBay. Both bicycles were very well packed by a established bicycle shop here in Tucson (Fair Wheels). They were shipped by DHL. The first one, a very original Schwinn Paramount 1974 P10 model, arrived in

[RBW] Re: Now threaded steer tube (was lug vs. tig)

2009-12-11 Thread Bill M.
http://www.tullios.com/Nitto.htm Scroll down a bit - Nitto's got it covered. On Dec 11, 4:31 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: there is currently a void in market with the demise of the Salsa SUL open face quill.  Not sure, but maybe VO is gonna fill it.  But for me, theyr represented a

[RBW] FS Updated Update

2009-12-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Here are what is left. (Here is what are left. Here are what are left. Here is what is left. Here are what are not sold. Oh, alright, already.) Old-type XT (I think it's XT; it's certainly XT quality) 122.5 cup and cone bb bearing assembly, new, no package, $30 shipped. Pair Gaerne crabon fibre

[RBW] Re: For Sale

2009-12-11 Thread Cycletex
9 sp chain is sold. Sugino AT triple cranks are sold. Nitto seat post is sold. Thanks! On Dec 11, 11:26 am, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Size info. The SR Seat post is 26.8mm and the Nitto is 27.2mm. VO wheel is 700c. Thanks, Clif -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Now threaded steer tube (was lug vs. tig)

2009-12-11 Thread eflayer
to the best of knowledge Nitto does nothing above 90 degrees. Salsa went higher and, to me, looked better. On Dec 11, 5:29 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: http://www.tullios.com/Nitto.htm Scroll down a bit - Nitto's got it covered. On Dec 11, 4:31 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net

[RBW] RR # forty-something/late 2009: out for Xmas?

2009-12-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The last one I saw was last summer. Anything since? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post

Re: [RBW] Our New Bike Catalog Is On The Site

2009-12-11 Thread ercarlso . rbw
Is nicities spelled correctly on page 22? I'm looking at the original_bike_cat_FINAL_nospread.pdf version. I like that the bikes are now being marketed as safe and strong, I think that is a very good idea. Erin On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:22 AM, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: *

[RBW] Re: RR # forty-something/late 2009: out for Xmas?

2009-12-11 Thread Mike
I thought it would be out by now. Didn't Grant mention something about it being out in a month a month or so ago? --mike On Dec 11, 5:47 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The last one I saw was last summer. Anything since? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional

[RBW] Re: Our New Bike Catalog Is On The Site

2009-12-11 Thread Mike
I don't know if that's correct or not but it wouldn't be Rivendell literature without some typos. On Dec 11, 5:52 pm, ercarlso@spamex.com wrote: Is nicities spelled correctly on page 22?  I'm looking at the original_bike_cat_FINAL_nospread.pdf version. I like that the bikes are now being

[RBW] FS: Updated Updated Update

2009-12-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:34 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Here are what is left. (Here is what are left. Here are what are left. Here is what is left. Here are what are not sold. Oh, alright, already.) 11-Gear stainless steel vacuum type 28 oz waterbottles, $20 each shipped,

Re: [RBW] Re: a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread Z
The after-FedEx link isn't connecting. From: Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 6:18:53 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: a study in contrasts I deal a lot with manufacturers

[RBW] Re: Our New Bike Catalog Is On The Site

2009-12-11 Thread doug peterson
Hey, try to find beaussage in the dictionary - it's all part of the charm. I love the BW photos! dougP On Dec 11, 6:01 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that's correct or not but it wouldn't be Rivendell literature without some typos. On Dec 11, 5:52 pm,

[RBW] Re: RR # forty-something/late 2009: out for Xmas?

2009-12-11 Thread doug peterson
We just got the 2009 catalogue. My un-educated guess is the next RR is a ways off. Someone's got to assemble that batch of Rodeos for Christmas! dougP On Dec 11, 6:00 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it would be out by now. Didn't Grant mention something about it being out in a

Re: [RBW] Re: Our New Bike Catalog Is On The Site

2009-12-11 Thread james black
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 19:27, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Hey, try to find beaussage in the dictionary - it's all part of the charm.  I love the BW photos! I think it's pretty awesome that google finds 2,920 hits for the world beausage. James Black Los Angeles, CA -- You received

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Demographic? --Was LHT tigged Rivendell?

2009-12-11 Thread Tim McNamara
On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Ray Shine wrote: For the money, it's hard to beat an LHT. That's true, although I'd lean towards a Gordon BLT. And that begs the question: who does comprise the typical Rivendell marketing demographic? Usually middle aged and well off enough to have a pretty

[RBW] Re: Our New Bike Catalog Is On The Site

2009-12-11 Thread EricP
I like it a lot. Of course, liked the little folder-upper that's been included in the more recent shipments. Now, will this one be printed up and shipped out? I like the look on the web. But always prefer the printed version for easy, quick reference away from the computer. Eric Platt (who

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Demographic? --Was LHT tigged Rivendell?

2009-12-11 Thread doug peterson
I'll bet the Rivendell demographic is so diverse and scattered as to defy marketing logic. There are probably people riding Rivs who live a student lifestyle (rent a room; no car) as well as fanatic bicycle collectors (the more rare exotic, the more interesting). The bell curve is probably

Re: [RBW] a study in contrasts

2009-12-11 Thread rswat...@me.com
On Dec 11, 2009, at 15:05, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Friends don't let friends use fedex. Ha! I use that same line about UPS! Be glad you used FedEx rather than UPS. That's pretty minor. A few minutes with some pliers and it's ridable. UPS would have bent the frame beyond

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