Agreed - I would go with their recommendation. I'm on a 59cm AHH, and could
have easily gone 61cm. May try to change up someday when I get sick of the
color :)
Brian
Seattle, WA
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:20 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:
Spot on.
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:04
I'd listen to them, my 60cm SimpleOne fits perfectly. I just ordered a
56cm Sam Hillborne...also their size recommendation for my pubic bone
height with that particular frame. Each of their models are different
due to various geometry differences so you should listen to them. Call
them and explain
They won't steer you wrong.
On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:28:55 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
Hello All,
When you got your Riv's, how was their sizing recommendation for you?
I am planning on getting a RIV sometime, and was wondering if I should
go by what they recommend (I hear usually
I'm eternally grateful for the PBH method of sizing a Riv. I'm only
5'7, but my PBH of 84.5 cm put me on a 58 cm Ram. My gut would have
said 56 cm MAX, but it was wrong. If you asked me, I'd always say go
bigger. Pay attention to your mathematical top tube length; despite
what most of us
For my old Stumpy now that I re-dished / de-SSed it. Wide range preferred =
30 - 34 on the low end. Silverish cogs also preferred, but not critical.
Let me know off-list what you have on hand.
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When I got my Rambouillet I was at the top of their 62 and bottom of their
64 range. I went with the 62 and have been perfectly satisfied with it. I
like my HBs about 2 cm below the saddle, so that may have influenced my
preferences.
Michael
On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:28:55 AM UTC-4,
They did me well when I bought my Sam Hillborne. It fits great. One thing
is that their sizing number is different for each model, so you may be a 48
on the Sam and a 52 for a Homer, ect. Just a guess on those numbers
though. I would go with their recommendations but make sure your PBH is
I got a custom 63cm Long Low 11 years ago from Rivendell built for someone
else, that fit perfect. 4 years ago I bought an Atlantis, they only come in
61 and 63. I spoke with 2 people at Rivendell including Grant and they both
suggested I go with the 61. Well the bike always felt small and
Riv sizing fit me perfectly changed the way I thought about bike fit
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On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 05:32 -0700, tdusky wrote:
I got a custom 63cm Long Low 11 years ago from Rivendell built for
someone else, that fit perfect. 4 years ago I bought an Atlantis, they
only come in 61 and 63. I spoke with 2 people at Rivendell including
Grant and they both suggested I go
Me too. The chart in the brochure had my 91cm PBH said I could fit a 62
or a 64. I like my bars
(drops on my Ram) above saddle height and in the last 6 years have raised
them even more. I went with the 64 and have been very happy with it.
Handle bar preference plays into this too. I like a
I have never had woodies, but I do believe that they do not offer the
same spray protection as ESGE or aluminum fenders. They are gorgeous,
but maybe you should see if you can try out someone's bike with
woodies in the rain before laying down the cash.
Gernot
On May 3, 7:28 am, Brian Hanson
I considered the Campee front rack, but then went with a Nitto M-12
and a completely separate stainless Tubus low-rider instead. The low
rider can be added and removed probably as easily as the pannier
supports on the campee. I don't know the weight comparison, for the
full set up, but run only
Brian, since you live in Seattle I say go with VO, Honjo, Berthoud or
even SKS Longboards.On my rando bike I run 32mm tires and 52mm VO
Zeppelin fenders and it's great. The fenders practically wrap around
the tire to provide excellent coverage. Those wood fenders don't seem
to wrap around the
I've noticed that as I am getting older and lighter my bicycle fit is
a little different than it was ten years ago. I also prefer a shorter
top tube with mustache bars but usually end up with drops for two
reasonsversatility and the way a certain mirror I use fits. I
think Rivendell has
Bike fitting is a sum of imperfect compromises. Contrary to popular belief,
there is no perfect frame size. But not to worry: stems and seatposts are
adjustable. You may run afoul of the fashion police if your seatpost sticks out
1.7 cm farther than some old French guy's seatpost stuck out in
I would follow Rivs advice. FWIW I think top-tube crotch clearance fears
are unfounded.I know many disagree.I ride bikes with ~2cm top-tube
standover clearance in the woods and never have a problem even with
frequent foot-downs or sudden dismounts. Most of my riding growing up was
I dealt with Keven and sm very happy with the dize he suggested. At 9,000 mi
ridden, there has been ample time to evaluate.
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Odd, I've always found the Supremes to be surprisingly noisy. It doesn't bother
me, as they are wonderful tires. I believe they last longer in proportion to
cost. My buddy Weasel got almost 9000 loaded commuting miles on the rear! His
front tire, also after 9000 miles, looked almost new.
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I say go with 50mm Duremes. After all, these are going on a Bombadil.
--mike
On May 2, 5:29 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
Need a new set of tires for the Bombadil, and considering Big Apples or
Supremes. I noticed Riv has both in 700 x 50, and wondered if anyone here
has either/or.
I can remember going into a bike shop in my youth (dark ages). The
owner's sizing method was simple. According to him if you were going to
race get the smallest frame you can attain the proper saddle ht. with. I
don't remember any seatposts back then being 350-400 mm long either. If
you're
Both the Avocet and Selle San Marco are on their way to new homes. Thanks to
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This was pre-MTB era of course.
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:37 AM, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.comwrote:
I can remember going into a bike shop in my youth (dark ages). The
owner's sizing method was simple. According to him if you were going to
race get the smallest frame you can attain
Went out on a ride with my baby brother last night after installing
Nitto Noodle drop-bars on his Kogswell.
Had a great time, he said it's more fun riding with me than his friend
who is a girl because I'm a fast rider and he doesn't have to keep
stopping to turn around and wait. It made me laugh
Just to chime in -
I have a pbh of 93.5, and am SO glad that I went with Keven's suggestion of
the 64 Sam. I would have thought I was on the 60 for sure. Having a bike
that fits me is a revelation.
Go with what they say, they know their bikes.
On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:28:55 AM UTC-4,
I think it's interesting what the silhouette of the third photo
reveals in the fork differences between both bicycles. I'm sure
there's lots to see in differences of the frame geometries but my
ignorant eye can't see very much here.
On May 3, 11:57 am, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
Went
The only caveat I can think of is that their sizing method can be thrown
off by short torso/short arms. Probably only applies to a small percentage
of the male population, but females need to take that into account. People
w/ short upper body/arms can have a problem getting the bars close
I'm looking for this particular model, which is as wide as a 67 or 68,
but has an older sprung double rail arrangement.
Got one you want to part with? Will pay up to $70 for one in good
condition.
Phil B
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I have a 51cm Bleriot - standover is perfect. Reach... not so much.
I can't ride it over a century without getting real neck and shoulder
issues. I have the shortest stem possible. :-)
That said, it is the best commuter/local utility bike ever. But when
I start a commute on Monday after riding
Riv's sizing charts assume that you'll want your handlebars near or
above saddle height. If you're between sizes, and you prefer your bars
a lot lower than the saddle, choose the smaller size.
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All,
When you got your
Man, this discussion is making it really hard to resist hitting order on a
pair of supremes! i keep telling myself the tires on the bike currently
are working perfectly fine, but so hard to resist
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I have Woody's fenders on 3 bikes -- my Quickbeam, my SimpleOne, and an early
'80s Fuji MTB that's set up as a winter/rain bike (IGH and drum brakes).
Bottom line: in the right application and climate, they're great.
I used flat Woody's first on the QB, because flat wooden fenders are very
There sizing is spot-on. Drink the kool-aid.
I have, I think, 8 Rivendell bikes. When I discovered Rivendell in
1998, I was confident I knew more about frame sizing than they did - -
but soon learned the error of my old havits. The first frame I got
was a Heron. Grant suggested a larger size,
Mine was perfect, but Mark tweaked some things when I went in which
improved the ride. Thanks goes to Dave and Mark!
On May 1, 11:28 pm, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All,
When you got your Riv's, how was their sizing recommendation for you?
I am planning on getting a RIV
You should really be asking yourself what would the ideal size be for you,
and then find the bike. If it has to be a Riv bike, then spend the money
and get the one that best fits, and not the cheapest one that barely does
the job. Sure, Riv will sell you either a 56 or 60 Sam and tell you it
I would listen to Rivendell. I made the mistake of getting my first
Rivendell on the small side against their recommendation. A couple of
years later I ordered the larger frame and have been a whole lot happier
with it. I blame it on me having a Fit Kit certification and 10 years
experience
Does anyone know the weight of the Hunqa frame by itself? I can't find
it on the Riv site.
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I need to raise the cable hanger on my front brake to accommodate the diving
board for a Mark's Rack. The current low profile brakes are marginal (at best)
with the hanger closer to the tire and I anticipate that they will not cut the
mustard if I raise the hanger another inch or so. I'm using
I've bought 5 frames or bikes from Rivendell, and every one of them (i) is
bigger than I would have chosen on my own, and (ii) fits perfectly. You should
not abandon your own judgment, but they ought to be given a lot of deference in
the sizing of their frames and bikes -- they really do know
A few suggestions.
Paul Neo-Retro on my Quickbeam, set up by Mark at Riv (proclaimed by Grant P as
the master of canti brake set-up). VERY powerful, excellent modulation too.
Tektro aero levers. Pics of hanger height hard to come by because of rack,
light and bag interference, but you can
But wouldn't a Nitto Mini Front rack work better if you're running cantis?
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My son recently posted a video from a ride together in March. He is
apologetic about the shakiness of the handheld camera, but it looks good to
me.
I was not riding a Rivendell that day, but the Riv content should not be
hard to spot.
http://vimeo.com/41471076
David
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That looks like a perfect place to ride. Nice job!
On 5/3/2012 12:39 PM, carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote:
My son recently posted a video from a ride together in March. He is
apologetic about the shakiness of the handheld camera, but it looks
good to me.
I was not riding a Rivendell that day,
Norm,
I'm guessing you're using the Marks because you already had one? Tom is
right a Nitto Mini front will give a little more clearance because it will
dip under the straddle wire. That being said you can make it work with the
Marks. I have the IRD Cafams on one bike and the Pauls on
While the list is not the best sample, i do notice that most requests for
swaps are initated by someone looking to swap up to a larger size. Both of
my Rivs (a 56 Sam, 60cm QB) both fit fine. i was right in the middle for
the Sam and after owning it i think a 60cm may have worked (though the
It's funny. I bought my first real bike circa 1971, the bike boom
days, and was sized rather tall (I don't remember my PBH, but stand
5'11). It was a Raleigh sized in inches, 25 or 25 1/2.
In the eighties sometime I bought someone's used bike, also a Raleigh,
but only 23 or 23 1/2. Can't
Just got my paper copy from amazon.
Also, just as an FYI type of thing, it *really* helps the author if you
enjoy something that you read if you leave a positive review on amazon.
The more of those that a book gets, the more likely someone from outside
the regular sphere will buy it.
So, if
my only nit with the Pauls is that they sit farther out on the studs due to
the way they are designed, this can be a problem with canti mounted racks.
I think Paul has a solution for this, a special rack adapter for Paul canti
brakes: http://paulcomp.com/rackadapter.html
I have these.
http://www.origin-8.com/images/new_800/13032.jpg
I used them for a few weeks before moving on to a side pull bike. I paid
$85 in shop and would sell them for $75 shipped. They are not overly
adjustable but they were the first pair I could set up as easy as side
pulls. Plus they
Looks like those cantos are allot cheaper online. So I can sell mine for 60
shipped.
http://www.amazon.com/Origin8-Ultim8-Cantilever-Brake-Silver/dp/B0046VX3TO
- Ryan
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 1:46:40 PM UTC-7, Ryan Ray wrote:
I have these.
http://www.origin-8.com/images/new_800/13032.jpg
I, too, have the old flat Woodies on my Saluki. I think I've had 'em
since 2008? I l,ove them and they've held up really really well. My
frame is little, and I had to do some mucking about with spacers and
drilling holes for the fender stay because they came with a vertical
tab (you can see
I recently bought a 58 Hunq and the frame/fork/hs is about 9# on my
bathroom scale. Just received the wheels today (from Rich at Riv) and am
looking forward to finally building it up!
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:29:14 AM UTC-4, Jeffrey wrote:
Does anyone know the weight of the Hunqa frame by
I'd suggest the Paul cantis. I don't know why people seem to like the
Tektro CR720. Every time I have to set them up or adjust them, I want to
swear off my otherwise enjoyable career. And it's not like they have great
stopping power, so the appeal must be in cosmetics, I guess. I should
I would have been happier one size down from what was recommended. Wound
up with a short stem not to be too stretched out. IMHO, the critical
dimension is top tube plus stem length. The vertical part is easy. YMMV.
Joel
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I think their sizing was spot on but I may have messed up on my PBH
measurement and ended up with a bike that is a little big. I read that I
should measure it a bunch of times and go with the tallest measurement so I
came up with 85cm and ordered my 58 Hilsen. Now I have my bike and it feels
a
All my bikes have wide-profile cantis--Paul Neo-Retros, CR720s and TRP
Eurox. The CR 720s have a little slop in the pivots but have always
worked great for me.
Ryan
On May 3, 2:44 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
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I'd suggest the Paul cantis. I don't know why people
Like a certain NY jewelry shop, if you have to ask... ;-)
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 6:29:14 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey wrote:
Does anyone know the weight of the Hunqa frame by itself? I can't find
it on the Riv site.
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When I bought my used Ram frame, I was told it was a 52 cm frame,
which is what I have always bought. In any event, the standover was
about 30.5 inches, which is a bit more than the 30 I usually went
for, but I figured it would be fine.
It turns out that the frame was a 54 cm frame, and it works
I'm sure people here know this, but its worth mentioning that Riv measures
center-to-top, rather than center-to-center, which almost everyone else
uses. Sometimes, I think, people might hear that they should be on a 60cm
Riv frame, which sounds ridiculous as they've always ridden 55 or 57.
That looks fun!
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:12:15 PM UTC-5, Dave Faller wrote:
That looks like a perfect place to ride. Nice job!
On 5/3/2012 12:39 PM, carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote:
My son recently posted a video from a ride together in March. He is
apologetic about the shakiness
No discussion on this, but I've received a couple emails from people who
asked about this, and thought I might move it to the top of the feed for a
few minutes. I've heard from a handful of out-of-towners who are coming in
for the Grant book thing and/or for the Riv Rally. And I've heard from a
I know you're joking but I think this thinking is as silly as being a
weight weenie.
If you don't care about weight at all ever you will end up with a very very
heavy bike. Maybe that's OK for some people but for riding in a group in
hilly Seattle it's not fun.
Weight should not be something
Lighten up, (get it, lighten up, haha) But seriously, its not like its a
sold steel chinese delivery bike, I wouldnt describe the hunq or even the
bomba as very very heavy Stout yes but not like a lead weight beneath
you. Like so many things in life this is subjective, I rode a heavy mtb
in the
Earl,
I'm assuming you're referring to the Tara or Nova and I must admit that
this approach is growing on me (at considerably less than the Campee) as I
already have the Mini-Front. I assume you mounted the Tubus to the forks
with clamps?
I haven't read the BQ article you reference, but
go on a diet
Actually I'm pretty skinny and my Dr has told me I shouldn't lose weight.
This is the kind of jib I was talking about. Sometimes the crowd here can
be as bad as weight weenies. Just relax and let people ask how much a bike
weighs. It's a perfectly normal question that doesn't
You are right, Tony my LBS guy is pretty mean, but we are all Italians in
Bay Ridge Brooklyn and can take having someone bust our chops about
something. Its when you cant take a joke that things get mean in our
culture, you should hear my mom curse out my dad, hahaha. I have taken
false umbrage on
I plan to be there for the book event. I assume you'll have plenty of
copies of Grant's book for sale Jim? I don't know about the ride yet. I'm
going to try to make some portion of it at least...
Shaun Meehan
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
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So it's not just me? I don't find much to like about the CR720's. The
straddle wire was BARELY long enough to clear my Nitto M12, the pads don't
clear the forks or stays so they don't open fully (common to lots of brakes
these days), and even with the often recommended 'salmon' pads they
I'll start out with moustache bars on a dirt drop, as that was what the
test bike I rode had that blew my mind...
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
Brian, since you live in Seattle I say go with VO, Honjo, Berthoud or
even SKS Longboards.On my rando bike I run 32mm
Will agree with that assessment. The first run of Sam Hillbornes had a
slightly longer top tube than later runs. My 56 fits me very well, but
there is too much seatpost showing in a perfect world. I have thrown my
leg over a 60cm orange Hillborne and it fit perfectly. So things can and
do
Spot on - for two different geometries. I have an AHH and a Bombadil
- followed their advice on both and it was exactly right both times.
In fact they are more comfortable than my custom road bike. I would
also follow their advice on measuring your PBH. Take it three or four
times and average
Perfect. GP know of what he speaks.
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:47 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
Will agree with that assessment. The first run of Sam Hillbornes had a
slightly longer top tube than later runs. My 56 fits me very well, but
there is too much seatpost showing in a perfect
I'm now looking at Syke fenders, as well -
http://www.sykeswoodfenders.com/sykeswoodfenders/home.html - may get the
mahogany. Thanks for all the feedback! There are some seriously nice
setups out there!
Brian
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll start
Going to be making the signing and the Rally. Will be my most extensive
ride with camping gear. In fact, changed a few things around in the
schedule to make sure it would happen.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:25:23 PM UTC-5, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:
I plan to be
Agree, looks like a great ride.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 6:15:46 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
That looks fun!
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:12:15 PM UTC-5, Dave Faller wrote:
That looks like a perfect place to ride. Nice job!
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I've got the tara on with clamps provided by tubus
(http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/LM_1-250-pix.jpg)
Works fine. Though being paranoid I felt weird clamping anything onto my
beautiful Hillborne's fork, I can detect no ill effects from having done so.
I suspect the
The great thing about weight is that although ones opinion about the
weight of a frame (eg is it heavy of not) is strictly subjective, the
actual weight is a purely objective repeatedly measurable quantity. If
somebody I don't know says a bike is very very heavy I don't really
have any idea what
Homeland security is on the way to my house as I have obviously
hijacked this thread. Sorry folks!
- Ryan
On May 3, 6:29 am, Jeffrey unclecowb...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know the weight of the Hunqa frame by itself? I can't find
it on the Riv site.
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dig it! Looks like a great ride.
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:39:21 PM UTC-7, carne...@bellsouth.net wrote:
My son recently posted a video from a ride together in March. He is
apologetic about the shakiness of the handheld camera, but it looks good to
me.
I was not riding a Rivendell that
Hmmm. They are the only canti brakes I have ever used (and that only
fairly recently) so perhaps I am just ignorant of how much better
other options may be but they didn't seem that hard to set up, they
look nice, and they are fairly inexpensive. Whats not to like? I did
have lots of trouble
The IRD cafam canti's work really well and can be set up wide profile. The
supplied straddle wire was too small for the 2.0 tires i'm running on my
lugged stumpjumper. I set 'em up pretty high with some cut to size brake
cables. They work great.see picture.
Another vote for Paul; I use the Neo-Retro and have not experienced any
other canti with the same stopping power. I also found the CR720 and the
Shimano BR550 to have less than adequate stopping power.
jim m
wc ca
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 2:44:14 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
I went from Shimano BR-R550's (which worked fine but had a fairly low,
fixed straddle cable) to Paul Neo-Retro front / Touring rear. the
Pauls are a thing of beauty if you appreciate mechanical / machining
type stuff and the straddle wire clears my Nitto Mini, but I find them
somewhat finicky to
Kinda sick of club rides where no one talks or is too scared of getting
this bikes dirty. Planning a mix terrain ride( isn't all rides mix
terrain?) from Orinda BART over the Berkley hills into San Leandro on
Sunday. Meeting up with buddy Sean at BART around 9ish on a ride that
hopefully gets
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