Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest

The route sounds and looks amazing. I hope a Rivendell Rally can be setup like this on the west coast On Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:22:21 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote: Ted, Excellent photos. Glad to have finally met you in person, both at the shop on Thursday and the ride on Saturday. Today's part

[RBW] FS: Soma San Marcos 59cm frame

I have a new frame in the box with headset and bottom bracket installed. I do not have time to spend on bike projects right now so I want to send this one off. I will go $750 for it. Local pick-up preferred. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Bosco Bars

I did my first ride with my new Bosco Bars and was really impressed.http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2012/06/rivendells-bosco-bars.html I rode a 100K at the Harpeth River Ride outside of Nashville and found the bars to be great. Nothing to do, but wrap 'em in leather and call them

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest

Manny: You realize that Riv Rally East was partially motivated by the group rides you all frequently enjoy in the Bay Area... You've got so many riders and so many great places to ride... to me it seems like you've been doing Riv Rallies on a regular basis for years... That said, I think you

[RBW] Bosco Bars

I like 'em bare but have considered covering them as well. Is there a particular brand of leather you'd use? I've used VO's Elkhide on another bar, which is definitely a good value but, though treated, isn't perfectly beautiful after significant sun rain. (My commute means parking outside.)

Re: [RBW] Bosco Bars

That is a nifty Bosco set-up, Marc, with the extra brake levers near the stem and the Dia-Compe antler nubshttp://www.susanstevenson.com/Journal/2009/June/7140MooseP.jpg! Is the hands-on-nubs position comfy? - David G, Madison WI On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Crazy isn't it? Seems this is what everyone wants but nobody offers anymore. I use the Dura-Ace GS 7700 but the 7800 is also silver. Good luck finding a good one. http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Shimano_Dura-Ace_derailleur_(7700_GS).html On Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:21:45 PM UTC-4, Scot

RE: [RBW] Re: Sackville Saddlebag Support

I have used a Carradice Bagman for a couple of years on my Quickbeam with a tweed Country Bag (obviously smaller than the Saddlesack Medium, but I do sometimes load the Country Bag pretty heavily, so it's still a useful comparison). I have found the Bagman connections between the tubes of the

[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racer E-Lever / 24t Chainring 58BCD

Racer is sold. e-lever and chainring still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZIgmMbNXneEJ. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-RD-7800-Derallieur-10-Speed-Medium/dp/B001VDSVNI/ref=sr_1_14?s=cyclingie=UTF8qid=1338819621sr=1-14 On Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:21:45 PM UTC-4, Scot Brooks wrote: As my new bicycle is taking shape, I'm painfully aware all-over-again that there are very few rear

[RBW] Front Rack Bag on Romulus

All, I'm doing my first Brevet in 12 days on my Romulus. I have a Berthoud bag mounted on my Atlantis with a front rack and a decaleur and I am considering mounting the bag on a Mark's Rack on my Rom for this event. I think the front bag effects handling on the Atlantis, but not in a

Re: [RBW] Front Rack Bag on Romulus

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: All, I'm doing my first Brevet in 12 days on my Romulus.  I have a Berthoud bag mounted on my Atlantis with a front rack and a decaleur and I am considering mounting the bag on a Mark's Rack on my Rom for this event.  I think the

[RBW] Re: Sackville Saddlebag Support

Really- how heavy? Have others had this happen- the hupe digging into your frame? On Sunday, June 3, 2012 2:48:54 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: I highly suggest a rack, if your planning any outdoor trip. The carradice quick release is great but the actual support starts to wiggle after a

RE: [RBW] Riv Rally Midwest

Great pics, Ted. Can you put names to some of the faces? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted Durant Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:13 PM To: RBW List Subject: [RBW] Riv Rally Midwest The weather gods

Re: [RBW] Front Rack Bag on Romulus

I'd encourage you to set it up and ride it. Not so much for you to decide yourself but more that it will be different. To state the obvious... ;^) The key core question is whether it matters at all. For me - my build, riding style and terrain - a front bag doesn't bother me. I switch

[RBW] Wanted: SR / Sakae aluminum all-rounder handlebar

Has anyone ever seen one of these? I want a bar like this or something that puts your hands in front of the stem, and must be narrowish 3 speed style. I've already ruled out the Jitensha bar and a few others. http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/sakae/catalog18/pdf/sakaecatalog18_%2010.pdf

[RBW] FS: White Industries VBC crankset and bb

For your consideration... White Industries VBC crankset with matching bottom bracket 165mm, 44-28 chainrings, silver polished arms very good condition, low mileage Included: White Industries JIS 113mm stainless steel bottom bracket. bearings are perfectly smooth. low mileage as well. $200 --

Re: [RBW] Front Rack Bag on Romulus

I like the handling of my Ram better when unloaded on the front. I have however had it set up with a Mark's rack and lil loafter up front and like you said in 15mins (if that long) I'm used to the change in feel. I find too that the wider the tire the less noticible the front weight is to me. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Peterson at Mountain Sports ltd on June 3rd

It was a great day . I enjoyed chatting and riding with Grant and hanging out with like-minded cyclists. Bob and Steve were gracious hosts. Our paper had a write up: http://www2.tricities.com/news/2012/jun/04/biking-legend-grant-petersen-offers-advice-signs-b-ar-1963170/ Thanks to Grant ,

[RBW] Re: Front Rack Bag on Romulus

I think this is what you're contemplating. Rode this way on Seattle to Portland (200m) and enjoyed it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/7336358432/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/7336362820/in/photostream On Monday, June 4, 2012 7:32:25 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:

[RBW] Sunday ride

30 miles on the Quickbeam yesterday, almost all on paved trails, running from Wilmington, DE out to the PA-DE state line at Marcus Hook. T-storm in the middle was exciting, otherwise a beautiful ride. Maybe 20 stream crossings over some beautiful bridges, and nobody on the trail -- storm must

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

I like the Dura-Ace suggestions quite a lot, but don't Shimano's GS derailers run out of wrapping capacity well before 36t? I just assumed that SGS (or equivalent) was the only way. If I'm not careful, I'll end up with a beautiful Dura-Ace RD and a new cassette just to use it :) -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville Saddlebag Support

I tried an R-10 at one time. I had thigh interference from the clamp around the seatpost on my Hillborne. I also note that for me the platform was significantly higher than the platform of a Mark's Rack's or a more typical rear rack's could be. Those two things together made me not like it as

[RBW] Re: Bosco Bars

I'm going to use the VO elkhide, I have it on my Hunq and really like the feel. I just rub it down with Mink Oil paste occassionally. Marc On Monday, June 4, 2012 9:42:07 AM UTC-4, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: I like 'em bare but have considered covering them as well. Is there a particular

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Peterson at Mountain Sports ltd on June 3rd

I really didn't want to leave at the end of the day. I was too busy talking and visiting, almost forgot to even pull my phone out to snap a few pics. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/sets/72157630044896692/ Clyde, pleasure to meet you; yes, we need to get Steve to organize a

[RBW] Re: FS 52cm Betty Foy

Hi Pat, I sent a note to your email but in the event it goes to spam I thought I'd try here as well. Please contact me as I am quite interested. Thanks, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com On Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:04:14 PM UTC-4, patmando wrote: I am offering my Betty Foy for

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant Peterson at Mountain Sports ltd on June 3rd

Was a pleasure meeting you as well Leslie. Thanks for posting those pics. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I really didn't want to leave at the end of the day. I was too busy talking and visiting, almost forgot to even pull my phone out to snap a few

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Those Shimano road models all say max cog = 28. In my experience you can push it a little, but trying to get a Shimano road rear der to take a 36T cog is bound to fail. Pushing it 2 teeth is no biggie. 4 teeth is usually a little noisy but it'll work if you have to do it. 8 teeth beyond the

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest

I just got back to HC, steeling my nerves for the last 5 miles home. I want to thank everybody who attended for the WONDERFUL weekend of riding. As predicted, we had between 10 and 500 riders most of the time, and each was an exemplary individual. I think Jim M and I rounded out the weekend

RE: [RBW] Bosco / Sackville shopping

I like the bar bag above basket setup, too. It's particularly useful if you have a quick on/off handlebar bag like the Berthoud Klik-Fix mounts; the bar bag rotates up to get complete access to the basket, without even taking it off. I used a small version of that setup (with a Medium

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

What you want is either rare or non-existent. I've been though this with customers before, and my opinion is that it's much better if you can get the one that works and ride it and forget about the color. Speaking for myself, I've never judged a man's (or woman's) worth by the color of his (or

Re: [RBW] Bosco Bars

The knobs provide a position which takes the palm and edges of the palm out of contact. So, all those sensitive nerve endings which cause numbness are not affected. I rode 62 miles the first day with complete comfort. Marc On Monday, June 4, 2012 10:00:25 AM UTC-4, David G wrote: That is a

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Some may recall that in the Riv Readers of yore, Grant frequently (as I recall) talked about the Japanese concept of wabi-sabi, which, quoting from Wikipedia is the 'beauty that is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete'. Sometimes it's good to have the bad stitch in a masterfully hand-woven

RE: [RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Speaking for myself, I've never judged a man's (or woman's) worth by the color of his (or her) dérailleur cage But rather by the content of his cassette? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill -

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

On Jun 3, 5:07 am, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Really would be nice if Paul or White jumped in with a boutique option.  I imagine the design and tooling investment would demand either an impossible price or volume though. On the contrary, both have built rear derailiers (and

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Thanks for the link Applejack, I havent seen that site for years http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Shimano_Dura-Ace_derailleur_(7700_GS).html Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Riv-ish Stuff from Way Before Rivendell

Found this at a bike swap over the weekend. Don't know much about it, other than that it's old, leather, and English. I think I'll use it to carry brevet cards and receipts. http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/7337390716/lightbox/

Re: [RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

I've been using a Suntour Cyclone short cage derailleur with a Shimano XTR 12-28 8-speed cassette and friction down tube shifters for the past few months with no problems. A Cyclone GT long-cage derailleur can handle big cogs -- 34 according to official specs, maybe 36 in real life?

Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville Saddlebag Support

One liability with all these saddle- or seatpost-mount bag supports is their weight limit; I think the Carradice SQR (= seatpost quick release) device has the heaviest limit, but that is only 10 kg or 22 lb. You can get much more than that into a large saddlebag. So, another recommendation for a

Re: [RBW] Riv-ish Stuff from Way Before Rivendell

Wikipedia has a bit on them as does Sheldon... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humber_(bicycle) http://www.sheldonbrown.com/english-3.html#humber On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Found this at a bike swap over the weekend. Don't know much about it, other

[RBW] Re: FS: Soma San Marcos 59cm frame

Sorry I failed to mention that I live in St. Louis, MO. On Monday, June 4, 2012 8:17:05 AM UTC-5, DustyMerkin wrote: I have a new frame in the box with headset and bottom bracket installed. I do not have time to spend on bike projects right now so I want to send this one off. I will go

[RBW] Re: FS 52cm Betty Foy

Sale pending. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/P5pvPbNIYl8J. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Any San Diego Bike Shop Recommendations?

My brother lives in San Diego and is interested in getting into cycling, mostly for commuting/exercise/urban riding. I'm wondering if anybody can point me to a decent shop near La Jolla that isn't so racing-bike oriented. Thanks, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

RE: [RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

If you're running a 36t rear cog, just go with a current-vintage SRAM or Shimano unit. Sure, it won't be all-silver, but you also won't have to worry about poor shifting, etc. FWIW, the euro LX is quite heavy, and the stamped/bent steel pieces can develop slop quicker than all-alloy units.

Re: [RBW] Front Rack Bag on Romulus

--Just finished a brevet with 2 other Rivendells. Romulus had a Acorn boxy rando front bag, the Rambouillet had a large Berthoud and my Homer had an Acorn boxy. All of us also had a seat bag. If you stick the heavier stuff like tools in the seat bag, and use the front bag for food and clothes

[RBW] Very longshot WTT a front rack for a front rack

What I have is an extra Nitto Mini Front Rack. I bought it from Rivendell and you could buy one from Rivendell right now. I'm saving it for a theoretical Atlantis purchase somewhere down the road. What I want is a Velo Orange Randonneur Front rack with Integrated Decaleur. This is it:

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Buy one of these M751 ones. NOS for $65 is a great deal. Stock up on them even. On Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:35:36 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: I prefer the older XT long-cage SGS derailleurs, have the same model on both the Ram and the Bomba... The Ram is w/ a 11-32 9sp, the Bomba is w/ a

[RBW] Re: Sackville Saddlebag Support

I'll be getting a Carradice Bagman Expedition now, as the Nitto Wire Guard I purchased has proven to provide insufficient clearance on my Hillborne. So, anybody looking to buy a Nitto Wire Guard for $30 shipped? On Jun 4, 2:32 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: One liability with all

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Will M751 rders handle the 36t big cog? We've noticed that recent Shimano MTB units can handle the big cogs... Older models, not so much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

I'm running the M751 med-cage GS right now on my Rawland with a 12-36 cassette. It has a lot to do with the geometry of the rear drop out as well. If the dropout holds the rear derailer really close to the axle of the rear hub, then the published max is pretty accurate. If the drop out

[RBW] Bullmoose Bosco bar?

I'm really digging the look of the the bullmoose Boscos. Does anybody who have these bars these pleased with the fixed handlebar angle and stem reach? Or are you wishing you bought the standalone handlebar version instead? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Front Rack Bag on Romulus

I notice an effect on handling due to a front Lil' Loafer on both my Atlantis and my SH. It slows the steering in a way that is noticeable on steep downhill turns. I can see how it could be something that some would be willing to live with and adjust towhile others would not.I have been in the

Re: [RBW] Bullmoose Bosco bar?

I just love mine on my 58 Hunqapillar and in fact, ordered a second set to try on the Atlantis and on the Betty. So far, I'm very pleased with the fixed configuration and have had no need to make any changes. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

Re: [RBW] Any San Diego Bike Shop Recommendations?

Pacific Coast Cycles in Oceanside. The owner is Chuck, and it is a common occurrence to get into nice conversations with him. It's on PCH on the ocean-side of the street, not far north of the Carlsbad/Oceanside border. -Original Message- From: Jeff Feldstein Sent: Jun

[RBW] Re: Any San Diego Bike Shop Recommendations?

Velo Cult and Adams Ave Bikes are closer to downtown. Pacific Coast is great. Chuck actually stocks touring stuff! Velo Cult is a fun visit as well as a neat shop. dougP On Jun 4, 3:46 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Pacific Coast Cycles in Oceanside. The owner is Chuck, and

[RBW] Re: Sackville Saddlebag Support

I Have a bagman support and I find that after some minor rework it is quite solid. I adjusted the bends of the rod to suit my country bag better. I also made an indent in the rod that the set screw seats in (I think I used a drill). Before doing that I did have problems with the rod working its

[RBW] Re: Any San Diego Bike Shop Recommendations?

Velo Cult is now in Portland, but Errin and his crew at Mission Hills are tinkerers at their soul. And very nice people. +1 on Pacific Coast up in Oceanside. Cal Coast, Thomas Bike Shop, and Adams Avenue are all good shops. Big Ring Cyclery in La Mesa is small-time, but very good with service

[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racer E-Lever / 24t Chainring 58BCD

E-lever is sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-LjP-aKbS00J. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Ah yes. I should had thought about that. I've spent my 20+ years on a bike blissfully free of the horrors of index shifting. I met Mr. White with a nice woman I assume is his wife at the Indiana NAHBS. A bike I am putting together this fall will have a White crank, bottom bracket and

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Here 'ya go . I've used on of these for a few years . It's a modern Silver RD. They still have them in stock . . .lol. http://www.jensonusa.com/!xFzOUiKZz4ZvnT31UVLKxg!/Shimano-LX-M581-Rear-Derailleur Frankly .. the older Shimanos I prefer , like from the 80/90's. They've lightened the

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

I imagine this works well, but boy does it look chintzy compared to my '90s Ultegra. On Monday, June 4, 2012 7:45:40 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Here 'ya go . I've used on of these for a few years . It's a modern Silver RD. They still have them in stock . . .lol.

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest

On Jun 4, 9:39 am, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Great pics, Ted.  Can you put names to some of the faces? I'm afraid I can only put first names. Jim Jim, a little help here?? td -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Gotta go back... further... mid-80s... First gen Shimano m700 Deore (Deerhead). These are wonderful friction derailleurs that will shift like butter and last forever. Just look at this one... it's over 25 years old. http://tinyurl.com/79vo4md Or (from the same era), one of these Suntour

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally Midwest

I'll identify myself with a nice run-on sentence. In Ted's photos, I'm wearing a blue t-shirt and I have a buzzcut and I'm riding the green bike with brown tires and I just discovered a new enthusiasm for adhering more strictly to my paleo diet because it looks like I'm plumping up a bit. A

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

On Saturday, June 2, 2012 8:24:11 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Joe, that Campy is gorgeous but only wraps up 29t per their specs. I know there's a little cushion there, but I might be pushing it with 36t. What about the Nashbar/Microshift 10 spd rear der:

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Jim, Undoubtedly there's some wisdom in your comment. Maybe the derailer big wigs will move their design back to the days of yore at some point, but there's no sense in making my bicycle wait. Phil B., Those Paul RDs and White RDs are awesome. I never knew such a thing existed, especially the

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

another way to get the low gearing you desire is to get a 94bcd crankset and run a 20T small chain ring. Then a 34 cog will get you a similar low gear. The White Industries crank will get you there and there are other available used MTB cranksets as well. ~mike On Saturday, June 2, 2012

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

Well yeah ..lol... pretty much any decent quality RD from that era is better for friction than the modern ones . I even used a odd looking Sport LX m452 on my Stumpjumper for years after the original ST crapped out. I bought in an emergency at a shop and it still works fine. I bought a

[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver

correction... TA and Middleburn offer 94/58 cranksets not White Ind. ~mike On Monday, June 4, 2012 8:27:46 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: another way to get the low gearing you desire is to get a 94bcd crankset and run a 20T small chain ring. Then a 34 cog will get you a similar low gear.

Re: [RBW] Re: Any San Diego Bike Shop Recommendations?

VeloCu... er, never mind... On 6/4/12, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: Velo Cult is now in Portland, but Errin and his crew at Mission Hills are tinkerers at their soul. And very nice people. +1 on Pacific Coast up in Oceanside. Cal Coast, Thomas Bike Shop, and Adams Avenue are all good