[RBW] Re: Rain follow up

2013-01-09 Thread fugd...@gmail.com
I ride in a lot of rain a lot lof days. I wear clipless Shimano sandals over Sealskinz socks over thick wool socks. The Sealskinz don't provide warmth and get kind of wet thru eventually. Sometimes I have 2 pairs of socks, change my shoes, socks at work. The sandals have adjustable velcro

[RBW] Re: Will a smaller frame put me further behind bb?

2013-01-09 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Or this http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/seatposts/vo-grand-cru-seat-post-long-setback.html On Jan 9, 8:42 am, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sp3.htm On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: Recommend me a Rando bar please.

2013-01-09 Thread Matthew J
I like Noodles, but being ever curious tried these Grand Bois parallel bars from Compass and wouldn't you know it, liked them better: http://www.compasscycle.com/handlebars_gb_maes_para.html On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:04:43 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Ha ha, very funny. I do love

Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-09 Thread Kelly
William, sweet bike! So do you notice a difference in the power coat verse wet paint? On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:10:53 AM UTC-6, William wrote: The nice orange double TT one is mine. Powder coat with matching Bullmoose On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 8:14:31 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

Re: [RBW] Recommend me a Rando bar please.

2013-01-09 Thread Steve Wimberg
I initially had Soba (46 cm?) bars on my Ram and switched to 45 cm Nitto Randonneurs. The Sobas just seemed too wide. I really like the outward bend at the hoods because it provides a nice wide area for my entire palm to rest. The contact point is not just between the thumb and forefinger,

Re: [RBW] Re: Recommend me a Rando bar please.

2013-01-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
+1. The most comfortable bars I've used. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: I like Noodles, but being ever curious tried these Grand Bois parallel bars from Compass and wouldn't you know it, liked them better:

[RBW] Re: Will a smaller frame put me further behind bb?

2013-01-09 Thread iamkeith
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're over-thinking this. The frame size shouldn't have anything to do with how fore or aft your saddle is, relative to the bottom bracket. Assuming the seat tube angles are identical, the only thing that will change is the amount of seat post

Re: [RBW] Re: Will a smaller frame put me further behind bb?

2013-01-09 Thread Kenneth Stagg
The key thing here is Assuming the seat tube angles are identical Typically smaller frames have steeper seat tube angles, though I don't know about the AHH. That will, once again 'typically', mean that smaller frames will put you further forward. In my case it's one of the reasons I'm so

[RBW] Re: So, with Rivendell bikes are you supposed to get...

2013-01-09 Thread Brewster Fong
On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:47:13 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: Although we don't like to talk about it here in our little world of lugs and quill stems, many mainstream CF bike manufacturers have started to realize the advantages of something closer to the Riv geometry. Many of them

[RBW] Re: Will a smaller frame put me further behind bb?

2013-01-09 Thread Phil Brown
It will be a bit forward but unless you are very, very picky you won't notice the difference after 5 minutes. And about the seat post try a Campy 2 bolt. It will get a saddle about as far back as you can get it. Phil Brown On Jan 8, 10:07 pm, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: If it is the

[RBW] Re: My Riv AllRounder

2013-01-09 Thread Savvas
Hi All, Nice pictures! When I first became interested ib Rivendells in the '90s, it was the All Rounder (and subsequently the Atlantis of course) that caught my attention. I could never afford either - by the time I mentally adjusted to the $1000 shipping-to-Australia cost they had spiralled

[RBW] Re: Advice on how to best obtain a 650b single speed?

2013-01-09 Thread Jeremy
Surly Steamroller - used, the frames are cheap as dirt (I've seen $150 around the SF area), and with Tektro long reach brakes, they work for 650B. I'm finishing up a build for my wife now. Fits 650B x 38 with no trouble, and I'm going to shove Hetres in there soon to see how they fit. On

[RBW] Re: My Riv AllRounder

2013-01-09 Thread Bob Cook
Apologies for my ignorance, but what are the differences between the A/R and the Atlantis, other than fancier lugs on the former and a kickstand plate on the latter? Comparison of A/R geometry posted on Cyclofiend (a treasured resource; thanks, Jim) and Atlantis figures in current Riv geometry

[RBW] Re: fender clearance tektro r559 vs paul racer

2013-01-09 Thread Swza
Hi Michael, Do you think the long reach racers would have too long brake reach to work with a Ram? My friend has a used set he wants to sell me but I saw the brake reach for those are 57mm. I think it will be very close. Any thoughts? Thanks Jeff Swank Denver On Sunday, January 6, 2013

[RBW] Re: My Riv AllRounder

2013-01-09 Thread Dennis Hogan
Addison, Great pics and a great history of your bike. I can only wonder what changes the future will bring. Gotta love GP for his do-all versatile and beautiful designs. Dennis in PDX On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:43:41 AM UTC-8, Addison wrote: I was reminiscing about all the fun I've had

[RBW] Re: 52cm Waterford Bombadil FFHS for Sale, single top tube-Last Notice before the Ebay

2013-01-09 Thread essentialskills
HI Peter-sent you an e-mail via flickr, not sure if you got it. I'm new to the group and writing to tell you I'm interested in the frame fork. Please drop me a line when you have time! Thanks, essentialskills On Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:50:58 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: I really do hate to

[RBW] Re: Advice on how to best obtain a 650b single speed?

2013-01-09 Thread Brad Mitchell
I built up a 650b Surly Steamroller over the summer that I have been considering moving on to someone who might ride and enjoy it more, if I can find the right rider. Built up with Pari Motos as a fun, fast 650b single speed (it is a total blast to ride). Contact me off-list if you think you

[RBW] Ride report: A week in northern Lao on my hillborne

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Y
An incredible ride. I don't quite have the words, but here are the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157632480237694/ Now I am left with figuring out how to return as soon as possible! The Hillborne did great on 45 mm marathon extremes over both road and dirt road, but

[RBW] Re: Will a smaller frame put me further behind bb?

2013-01-09 Thread Garth
You are correct iamkeith, Yes, the Homer seat tube angle is the same for the 54, 56 , 72 degrees. TT difference is 1 cm. I use TT length and bar height as my major criteria for frame size. PBH alone is incomplete. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: My Riv AllRounder

2013-01-09 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Bob - Best way to look at that is the Atlantis is the (continually) refined version of the A/R. The first three models - Road, LongLow and All-Rounder - really provide the roots for a Rivendell designs, but it's clear that the iterative process of design and testing has created beautiful

[RBW] Re: New frame specials up on rivbike

2013-01-09 Thread Mike Schiller
saw the note about the Betty's... the Hillbornes are supposed to follow suit and get a 55cm 650B model I read. Hopefully it will be a single top tube. may be time to get a new Riv! ~mike On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:45:11 PM UTC-8, Dave wrote: Solid deal on a demo Betty foy, among

Re: [RBW] Ride report: A week in northern Lao on my hillborne

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Mather
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Paul Y paulyeoh...@gmail.com wrote: I'd much prefer a 2 tire on my next visit. Looks like a great ride! Thanks for documenting it for us. 2 tires? You're going to need a Hunq or Bomba for the next trip. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: New frame specials up on rivbike

2013-01-09 Thread RJM
Do it before Feb. 1st, the prices for many are going up after then. :( On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:04:23 AM UTC-6, Mike Schiller wrote: saw the note about the Betty's... the Hillbornes are supposed to follow suit and get a 55cm 650B model I read. Hopefully it will be a single top

Re: [RBW] Re: Bay Area bike tour write-up and photos

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
More, including Riv visit #1: http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2013/01/sf-adventure-part-3-into-east-bay.html?m=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] Re: My Riv AllRounder

2013-01-09 Thread Addison Wilhite
I've had these old Riv articles linked off of my blog for a long time but don't know that I've mentioned them here. If you scroll to the bottom of the page you will see a bunch of files/pdfs of old reviews of Riv models and Grant interviews, etc.: https://sites.google.com/site/renorambler/Home

[RBW] Re: My Riv AllRounder

2013-01-09 Thread Esteban
This bike embodies the Riv spirit! Nice to to be able to fit those knobbies. On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:38:02 PM UTC-8, Dennis Hogan wrote: Addison, Great pics and a great history of your bike. I can only wonder what changes the future will bring. Gotta love GP for his do-all

Re: [RBW] Ride report: A week in northern Lao on my hillborne

2013-01-09 Thread René Sterental
What an adventure! On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Paul Y paulyeoh...@gmail.com wrote: I'd much prefer a 2 tire on my next visit. Looks like a great ride! Thanks for documenting it for us. 2 tires? You're going to need

Re: [RBW] Re: Bay Area bike tour write-up and photos

2013-01-09 Thread René Sterental
Great write-up! You're making me ask some serious questions to myself... :-D René On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: More, including Riv visit #1: http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2013/01/sf-adventure-part-3-into-east-bay.html?m=1

[RBW] FS: 61cm AHH F/F/HS and 63cm Backroads Chimayo

2013-01-09 Thread Michael Williams
Hey Group, Up for sale is a used 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB. Its Toyo built, if that means anything. Repainted Butterscotch. Its 'creamier' in life than in the photos. definitely used, never abused. It has some paint chips here an there that i covered with nail polish. Some chainsuck chips

[RBW] Re: Will a smaller frame put me further behind bb?

2013-01-09 Thread Philip Williamson
Nope. Unless your seatpost extension is greater than the difference in seat tube length... This doesn't apply in this instance, since the two frames are from the same model, but it might be fun to wrap your brain around.

[RBW] Re: So, with Rivendell bikes are you supposed to get...

2013-01-09 Thread Jeremy Till
I was actually referring to things like the Spec. Roubaix/Secteur, Cervelo RS, Trek Domane, Felt Z series, etc. --mass produced MCRB's that feature taller heatubes, slacker head angles, longer chainstays, etc. I should think that with a custom builder like Parlee or Calfee you could get as

[RBW] Re: Will a smaller frame put me further behind bb?

2013-01-09 Thread Jeremy Till
There's a lot of conflicting things being said, so just to reinforce: *No*. Assuming seat tube angle, seatpost, and saddle are all the same, then frame size makes no difference as to saddle setback (the common term for the horizontal distance from the bb centerline to the saddle nose). As

[RBW] Re: Recommend me a Rando bar please.

2013-01-09 Thread Dave
I've got a great condition nitto randoneeur drop bar I'd be willing to ship for a good price. shoot me a note if you want pictures/measurements. On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:46:27 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: What's your favorite and why? I think they look neat, hope they work better for me

[RBW] eBay things for sale

2013-01-09 Thread Scott Henry
If anyone is interest, just posted some item for sale http://www.ebay.com/sch/skenry/m.html Paul Thumbies Baggins Hobo bag http://www.ebay.com/sch/skenry/m.html Cheers, Scott Dayton, OH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Bay Area bike tour write-up and photos

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Thanks René! Hope you get out for some nice adventures of your own. On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:01:38 PM UTC-6, René wrote: Great write-up! You're making me ask some serious questions to myself... :-D René On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

[RBW] Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-09 Thread George Schick
Upon close examination of the tread wear and condition of the sidewalls on my current tires, it's plain that it's time for a new pair. The Jack Brown discount that Riv is offering on their Internet garage sale e-mail flyer looks intriguing. So I surfing into their web site to look 'em over.

[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-09 Thread William
The Jack Browns I bought from Riv were folders. On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:15:39 PM UTC-8, George Schick wrote: Upon close examination of the tread wear and condition of the sidewalls on my current tires, it's plain that it's time for a new pair. The Jack Brown discount that Riv is

[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-09 Thread William
but that was last year. I would assume they still are folders, but a call wouldn't hurt. On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:23:41 PM UTC-8, William wrote: The Jack Browns I bought from Riv were folders. On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:15:39 PM UTC-8, George Schick wrote: Upon close

[RBW] Re: Jack Brown Sale

2013-01-09 Thread Mike
I'm sure they're folders. The Greens are great tires. Here in Portland it seems like lots of folks use cyclocross bikes as winter training bikes. I'm surprised that I don't see more people using them. I think a lot of folks just don't know they exist. --mike -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: NITTO Moustache for 42 Noodle

2013-01-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I too found that I prefer narrow bars -- the 42s on the Fargo feel better than the 46s I traded them for; and I'm not particularly wide in the shoulder. But! Narrower bars do not work as well, at least for me, off road: the Fargo on tech sing tr is scary! -- not that I ride tech s tr much. FWIW,

[RBW] ISO: 57cm A. Homer Hilsen

2013-01-09 Thread Pondero
I (foolishly) sold my 650b, 56cm AHH, and now I must replace it. I might try an exact replacement, but I'm also considering a 57cm, 700c wheel version. I plan to explore used and new options quickly before the 2-1-13 price change. Just gotta ask...anyone with a 57cm version that doesn't meet

[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm AHH F/F/HS and 63cm Backroads Chimayo

2013-01-09 Thread Michael Hechmer
I am interested and would really like to see pictures. Don't give up on Picassa, but send me some pics. I'm not in theBay area but we can work that out. Michael On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:13:17 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote: Hey Group, Up for sale is a used 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB.

Re: [RBW] ISO: 57cm A. Homer Hilsen

2013-01-09 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
riv has a 58cm 650 homer brand new for $1800. its under frame specials Woman is 57 But Looks 27 57-Year-Old Mom has a simple facelift trick that angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/50ee03f3e03cd3f35271st04duc --

[RBW] Re: So, with Rivendell bikes are you supposed to get...

2013-01-09 Thread ted
Yes, however do the mass produced CF bikes you'r referencing take what RBW calls wide tires? How about fenders. My quick look for Specialized Roubaix specs didn't turn up a max tire size but it looked like they are sold with 25s. The tightest riv (the Rodeao) takes 33s with full fenders, the

[RBW] Re: So, with Rivendell bikes are you supposed to get...

2013-01-09 Thread William
Brewster wrote: More recently, Calfee now offers its Adventure geometry optino that was designed for 700x32 tires AND fenders. It was reviewed, and liked, by Jan H.: http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/BQCalfeeTest.pdf That's not entirely true. The bike was delivered with skinnier tires and

Re: [RBW] ISO: 57cm A. Homer Hilsen

2013-01-09 Thread Dan Abelson
I am selling my 55cm AHH (the 55 takes 700C wheels). The geometry is below, I think it is pretty close to the 57 in geometry. If you are interested, I can give you more details, photos etc. TT length is 55.5cm. SO height 80cm ST is 55cm (c-t) Head Angle 72 Seat Angle 72 Fork Rake 52 CS Length

[RBW] Re: WTT: NITTO Moustache for 42 Noodle

2013-01-09 Thread Michael
Thanks Patrick. All I have to trade, bar-wise, for now is the moustache. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lywLpKOlzdUJ. To post

[RBW] Re: So, with Rivendell bikes are you supposed to get...

2013-01-09 Thread Jeremy Till
I wasn't endorsing those bikes or comparing them to the overall ride and functionality of Rivendells. I only ride steel bikes that have decent clearance. I was simply pointing out that aspects of the Rivendell geometry have been adopted by mainstream manufacturers of CF bikes. On

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 61cm AHH F/F/HS and 63cm Backroads Chimayo

2013-01-09 Thread Michael Williams
hey Michael, you are the 2nd responder. I have another guy interested who lives somewhat close. If it doesnt work out, then youre next. Do you still want to see pics?-Mike On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I am interested and would really

Re: [RBW] Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-09 Thread Christopher Murray
I really like the Hunqa green. I had my SimpleOne painted that color. It is still in the box as I am trying to get the rest of the parts together and find the time to build it. I peek inside every so often and it is just amazing. Can't go wrong with one of the stock colors- Riv chooses great

[RBW] Re: So, with Rivendell bikes are you supposed to get...

2013-01-09 Thread ted
I didn't mean to imply that you were. I was just noting an important aspect that I don't think the mainstream is picking up yet. On Jan 9, 7:07 pm, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't endorsing those bikes or comparing them to the overall ride and functionality of Rivendells.  I

[RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

2013-01-09 Thread Michael
Thinking about getting pitlocks for my seatpost and saddle (yes, they actually have one that clamps onto the post at the saddle bolt, thus blocking access to it). Noone can steal your seatpost *or* saddle, then. I am more concerned about the pitlocks scratching the paint on the seat tube

[RBW] Re: So, with Rivendell bikes are you supposed to get...

2013-01-09 Thread Brewster Fong
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:54:01 PM UTC-8, William wrote: Brewster wrote: More recently, Calfee now offers its Adventure geometry optino that was designed for 700x32 tires AND fenders. It was reviewed, and liked, by Jan H.: http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/BQCalfeeTest.pdf

[RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Unless something has changed since I tried it a couple years ago, I don't believe there's a pitlock that's easily compatible with a Riv seatpost clamp. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Come to think of it, I've kinda forgotten that saddle theft is an issue. I think about wheel theft, or whole bike theft when I lock up, but it's been a long time since I've heard about a saddle theft. I often park with a saddle cover over my B67 saddles, both for weather protection and for

[RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-09 Thread Zack
Well, the best part is, no matter what color you choose, the bike will be beautiful. I have a dark blue/purpley(blackberry!) metallic Sam, and love it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/36386964@N00/7516243896/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

2013-01-09 Thread Lynne Fitz
I'm in the same boat. My Bleriot was wrecked last week (I am so lucky to be typing this), and it is either a new bike or getting it repaired. And, of course, repainted. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157632430316656/with/8356816688/ I think I would want a green. Maybe

Re: [RBW] Do Pitlocks scratch paint on your seat tube collar?

2013-01-09 Thread Joe Broach
I lost a Champion Flyer and seatpost last year the one day I forgot to put the saddle cover on. Working late, I missed the last bus and had an interesting 5 mile ride home. The worst part was losing the post--a unique 26.7 Nitto on my Miyata. Impossible to find a perfect fit to replace it. Best,