Making fun of this idea from the point of view of a cyclist who uses 700c-ish
wheels is to miss the point, and the inventor seems to have a pretty good
understanding and appreciation of how bicycles work.
Agreed. Assuming this works beyond just in theory (my main concern is energy
loss
Well, you've gotten many good suggestions here. I used to have some sort of
computer on every bike. I even mounted my car GPS to the hadlebars with some
spare parts. Why not? It didn't cost me a penny and the GPS had a bike mode.
Got enough juice from each charge for most day trips. But
my nephew and his wife crossed Australia on Bromptons with their two babies
in trail. He finished with a destroyed tire wrapped in duck tape (and a
lot of pumping). He could have probably used an airless tire.
On Friday, May 3, 2013 4:42:40 AM UTC-5, bobish wrote:
Making fun of this idea
I abandoned the computer a few years ago for most all the reasons already
mentioned in this thread. I abandoned logging miles, but have mapped a few
of my routes or have checked mileage for some rides if I get curious about
distance. There are times when I would like to have an idea on
I use my computer mainly for that, to log the hours. With a young family at
home I unfortunately cannot succumb to the bike that is like some kid from
the wrong side of the tracks who wants you to stay out all day playing
hookie, haha.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com
The past several days have been very summer like here in Northern Calif.
I'm lucky to have a ~7 mile ride to work and am able to commute most days.
Here's a photo taken on the bike trail (~1 mile) portion of the route :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/8704118372/in/photostream
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I have one of those widgets that does all this 'normal' stuff and records
altitude, I'm fond of that.
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On May 2, 2013, at 9:30 PM, hangtownmatt hangtownm...@yahoo.com wrote:
Personally, I like my computer. Primarily, I like the odometer. I like to
know how many miles I get
On Friday, May 3, 2013 1:18:20 AM UTC-4, Seth Vidal wrote:
Looks like a great way to spend the afternoon. Damascus has a very
different feel than Abingdon, that transition must be interesting by biking
through the woods. :)
-sv
You've not ridden the Creeper? I would've thought you
Never had a cycle computer. No plans to get one. I bring my smart phone
with me on rides where the map function will be helpful. The few times
I've wondered how far I rode, I was able to come up with reasonably close
figures afterwards with online map programs.
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I like my Garmin 810. Have had previous models and others as far back as I
started riding. Like the gadgets too much, even though I don't really do
anything formally with the data since I hate having to manually edit it.
I primarily use it for monitoring my Heart rate and cadence, which are
Small tires (Brompton is 349 bsd) wear out fast because of the number of
rotations to cover a given distance. Schwalbe makes the Marathon Plus in this
size, which is pretty close to being a solid tire!
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The gadgets I use are important to me for two reasons: to collect
information, and as navigational aids. I don't have much problem with them
controlling me.
If you want to be somewhere, or know where you are so you can determine
when you will be somewhere, a cyclometer and basic GPS are pretty
I have a Garmin 500 that I use most of the time. I really like the GPS map
and the elevation info. I don't generally care about speed or time, but how
far I rode is usually something I look at. I thought about getting a Garmin
810 because of the mapping feature but will probably not spend that
It's baffling to me why everyone these days seems to think you need one.
I imagine many like me have a smart phone through their employer.
I live in the Chicago area as well and the few times I've wanted find my
work issued smart phone will tell me where I am and adequately assist with
Anyone doing the WCC tomorrow? If so, please say hi as you pass me, which
you most assuredly will. I'll be in Team Strawberry Pancakes kit, on
either an emerald green Rivendell or a light blue Vanilla.
Weather looks great, nice day for an easy century.
Max B
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Speaking of the Creeper Trail.I was down there last week and took advantage
of an evening to ride to Damascus.got back too late (and it was Monday) to
hit Wolf Hills Brewery but had one of their fine energy drinks at the Blue
Blaze and a pizza to prepare me for the return to Abingdon.what a great
Leslie,
Thanks for sharing great pictures of a great looking ride. I don't know
Virginia but looks like beautiful terrain to ride through. And yes +1 on
retirement activity.
Hugh
On Friday, May 3, 2013 6:36:14 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
On Friday, May 3, 2013 1:18:20 AM UTC-4, Seth Vidal
My iPhone is my external brain (like a wheelchair for a paraplegic), so
that's why I keep it with me.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, May 3, 2013 9:45:01 AM UTC-6, Eric Peterson wrote:
The gadgets I use are important to me for two reasons: to collect
information, and as navigational aids.
My in-laws used to live in Damascus; we'd eat at Quincy's all the time.
It changed names/owners?, but had still been an Italian restaurant.I
still thought of it as Quincy's, and was where I was intending to eat
lunch... I locked my bike in front of it,
Not having a smartphone is somewhat going against the tide of history,
IMO. It would be like sticking with the telegram after other people got a
phone or only listening to radio after TV came out. My phone is a great
tool when I am out riding for both letting me know where the hell I am and
I think my buddy bought his Garmin because he couldn't find an Iphone
bracket he liked.
On Friday, May 3, 2013 12:02:38 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
Not having a smartphone is somewhat going against the tide of history,
IMO. It would be like sticking with the telegram after other people got a
Ok stupid question time, is a car garmin the same as a bike garmin? my dad
has a spare in the basement since he got a car with built in GPS and
whatnot and I would like to give it a whirl.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:
I think my buddy bought his Garmin
I'm not up on the tech, but the bike garmin is about the same size as a
cateye and it radio-receives the standard heart-monitor signal and cadence
transducers, etc - a system adopted by many makers.
On Friday, May 3, 2013 12:20:24 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
Ok stupid question time, is a car
On Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:51:58 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:
Airless tires have so much resistance that you'd rather change a flat
every 10 miles! We tested a set of airless tires for our latest tire test
(Bicycle Quarterly Spring 2013), and found that they used 50% more power
than a good
I don't have one (smartphone). I'm not saying it isn't useful, but
generally I don't need the features of it, I do not want to pay for one and
I hate the size of them. I use one of those pay as you go phones from
Walmart and barely ever use up minutes on it. Can't stand those kind of
gadgets
Nice article on the history of the paleo and natural health movements on
NPR:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/04/01/175961020/paleo-diet-echoes-physical-culture-movement-of-yesteryear
Based on the photographic evidence, I think it's quite likely that Grant is
actually a 150-year-old
Who knew he had such ripped abs?
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Nice article on the history of the paleo and natural health movements
on NPR:
Hope this isn't too off topic for the list. I'm still really intrigued by
the Appaloosa concept, even though I can't quite explain why. But since I
don't really have the opportunity to visit RBW headquarters and check one
out in person, I'm having to pay attention to the comments from others
This also explains why he's never seen without a shirt on.
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On May 3, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
Who knew he had such ripped abs?
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Eric Norris
Númenórean bloodline.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, May 3, 2013 12:30:45 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
Nice article on the history of the paleo and natural health movements
on NPR:
I go back and forth on this topic. I'll ride with no computer for a while
and enjoy the freedom, then I'll go back to the Garmin. However, when I'm
doing long rides, especially if I don't know the route, I always have
the Garmin. A couple of years ago, I was somewhat lost in east San Diego
But Eugen died aged 58.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Nice article on the history of the paleo and natural health movements
on NPR:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/04/01/175961020/paleo-diet-echoes-physical-culture-movement-of-yesteryear
I stopped using a computer after my second year of randonneuring. I found
it just became too much of a distraction. Besides, while riding brevets it
wasn't uncommon to be riding with others and usually someone in the group
would have a computer. Besides, you've got the cue sheet, just follow
He'd better watch his pants.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Nice article on the history of the paleo and natural health movements
on NPR:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/04/01/175961020/paleo-diet-echoes-physical-culture-movement-of-yesteryear
I've used an iPhone and currently have a Garmin 810. I like them both for
different reasons. The Garmin is more of a single purpose device I use on
longer rides. The main differentiator for me is that Garmin's battery life
(17 hrs) compared to the iPhone's (4 hrs). I generally have the iPhone
Actually, the guy coyly posing in the pic reminds me of Billy Connolly as
the tennis pro in The Impostors.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Nice article on the history of the paleo and natural health movements
on NPR:
That's what Grant WANTS you to believe. Don't be fooled. The truth is out there.
Eric N
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Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
On May 3, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Alex Zeibot veloban...@gmail.com wrote:
But Eugen died aged 58.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Eric
Thanks for the link! I saw a picture of the bike on Jim Thill's FB page.
I'm definitely in the same boat as you, and considering starting out with a
non-spaceframe Jones for budgetary reasons, and trading up over time.
Possibly even just adding the fork to a bike I already have. The
Sorry that there is a misunderstanding. I don't judge the merits of the
invention until I have seen and ridden it. It is well possible that 15
years from now, we all ride on those wheels. (Grant predicted/lamented in
an early Rivendell Reader that spoked wheels would become obsolete, and he
Depends on what one means by slow.
Best Regards,
R Zeidler
Prime Mover
On May 3, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:
Sorry that there is a misunderstanding. I don't judge the merits of the
invention until I have seen and ridden it. It is well possible that 15 years
I, too, am excited for the Appaloosa, and the Jones Long Ranger is an
interesting bike-- long mixte-like mountain bike with huge tires. Very
un-Riv but beautiful to me.
NAHBS had a few longer bikes with fat tires
(http://www.dirtragmag.com/webrag/nahbs-2013-fat-bikes-gallery-part-1). The
same here, gave up computers as I'm too driven to maintain a certain
speed. I take my iPhone for directions (rarely), emails, phone calls and so
my wife can locate me ( pay for the service) for her peace of mind. Most
of the time I review a map before I go somewhere new and then wing it...
I used to use a Cateye to log mileage and stay on target for the season.
Then, when gas hit $2 permanently, I said screw this, I'm only driving
when absolutely necessary. I started enjoying myself more, and the
computer went into a trash can as I passed my mileage goal in July.
Marc
On
Hmmmn my mind is fighting this idea. The Long Ranger reminds me very
much of Mt. Tam bikes from the Repack days. I owned various early
(post-Repack) models, and then in the early 80's I spent three days riding
in Texas with Chris Chance, and his short chainstay bikes stunned me, they
Hello,
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great. Here is what is left. All prices include shipping. Thanks.
-Nitto moustache 25.4 clamp, tape residue and lots of scratches in clamp
area $35.00
-Phil wood Bottom Bracket 108mm, approx 2,000
I think the Surly Knard has and is going to spin up some interesting
bikes. It would be cool if the Appaloosa could fit those tires too. A
lugged fat bike!
Could be a great county bike for really rough country.
~mike
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On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 14:01 -0700, Marc Irwin wrote:
I used to use a Cateye to log mileage and stay on target for the
season. Then, when gas hit $2 permanently, I said screw this, I'm
only driving when absolutely necessary. I started enjoying myself
more, and the computer went into a trash
Mike S, once again we agree! The Knard, particularly the 120 tpi version is
an amazing tire. And a frame designed around it doesn't have to be as weird
as the frames designed around 4-5 fat tires. That said, I don't expect
that the Appaloosa will clear a 700x75...
On Friday, May 3, 2013
A Riv that will fit 3 tires has my vote. Dunno about long but am open to
being convinced.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:
I think the Surly Knard has and is going to spin up some interesting
bikes. It would be cool if the Appaloosa could fit those
Jim, that looks like a beautiful section to commute. Thanks for sharing.
-Erl
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I need to change my stem from a 100mm to a 80mm so i'm thinking of yellow cloth
tape with clear shellac. Anyone have this combo? Curios how yellow it would
stayand how it looks with the hilsen blue.
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I'm not a geometry expert but it seems to me that the long chain stays are
meant to stabilize the rider in a more upright position rather than the
front end jumping about. I just looked at the pictures of the said Lone
Ranger and well my temporal lobe flooded me with lust for a fat tire beast
Not sure, but just try it. The beauty of cloth tape and clear shellac is that
the parts are not super expensive and the shellacking takes the pressure off of
the need to get the cloth tape perfect. So just do it, because what's the worst
that could happen? You won't like it and have to do it
I was lucky to try the Appaloosa concept bike at RBW. Grant said , just
try this, you'll be surprised. I was. It was so stable, but would still
turn. Makes me wonder why we keep riding bikes that resemble racing bikes.
On Friday, May 3, 2013 11:34:48 AM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
Hope this isn't
There is a great deal of space between an Appaloosa and a racing bike.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote:
I was lucky to try the Appaloosa concept bike at RBW. Grant said , just
try this, you'll be surprised. I was. It was so stable, but would still
turn.
I can't get comfortable on it in the hooks, and I've just bought a B136
from a lister.
After just 11 miles today, albeit 3 or so on roughish dirt, my left palm
was tingling and turning numb. No good.
You can buy the Midge, black, in 25.4 or 31.6 for $30 shipped here:
Meant to say: you can buy a black new one at
http://shop.titusti.com/product-p/hboomi.htm for $29.99 with NO CHARGE for
shipping CONUS. My white one will therefore cost you $8 less, net, shipped.
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I can't get comfortable on
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Last time I did a round of cotton bar tape was orange with clear shellac on my
green Sam. The color was a bit bold for me so I mellowed it with a coat of
amber shellac on top of the two clear coats. I guess what I'm saying is that
you've got a little wiggle room to play with the color if it
I'm speechless.
Marc
On Friday, May 3, 2013 5:51:04 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 14:01 -0700, Marc Irwin wrote:
I used to use a Cateye to log mileage and stay on target for the
season. Then, when gas hit $2 permanently, I said screw this, I'm
only driving
Thanks for the pic. Nice looking bike and set up. Is that a Riv Custom?
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My take on Marc's story was that when his bike became his daily transportation,
old mileage goals seemed irrelevant, as did the computer. I had the same
experience when I integrated cycling into my daily routine rather than
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+1. Nicely done sir.
On Friday, May 3, 2013 11:41:36 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Númenórean bloodline.
With abandon,
Patrick
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Heheheheheeh 3
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I'm about to toss in the towel on the Midge myself. I wanted so badly for these
bars to work for me. Built up a new (to me) Soma Double Cross with them. Tried
several different angles, feeling too stretched out and low with a longish
Salsa stem so went to a 90mm/35 degree stem, now too cramped
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:13:52 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
Hi all. Thought I'd ask all of you who use computers for recomendations.
I've been on the fence about using a computer to track mileage for some
time now, but I believe I'd like to try.
The criteria:
1. It has to be very simple
I have the Sigma 509. It is inexpensive ($15 at Amazon), battery last long
(over a year now) has auto start/stop and is easy to use.
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:13:52 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
Hi all. Thought I'd ask all of you who use computers for recomendations.
I've been on the fence about
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