Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
I was hoping for the Sierra's and of course will go with the consensuses as SLO is a good second. Considering coming up Friday. I have requested Sunday the 29th off so we'll see how that shapes up. ~Hugh Hugh Sunland, Ca On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com

Re: [RBW] FS-Nitto Dove Bars and Periscopa Stem for sale. Includes Crane Bell! $55 plus shipping

2013-06-12 Thread geosat
*Sold!* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Rope swings and bike rides.

2013-06-12 Thread Ron Mc
great photos, but aren't you supposed to get wet on those things? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/fish4/chunt002.jpg On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 9:15:27 PM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: Rope equal summer. Period. Pictures demonstrate that summer events occurred:

[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread Mitch Browne
I live local and have been attempting to post but posts are automatically deleting. Jim is trying to help but nothing obvious is going on. So. This is a test post. Mike there aren't any stores very close to any of the discussed camp sites. El Chorro stores are about 4 miles next to CalPoly and

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: All the Great Rivendell Components, minus frame, almost New Condition!

2013-06-12 Thread Tim Gavin
I understand that you want the interrupter levers and shifters to stay on that beautiful Brooks wrapped cockpit. Revised offer: Brooks Saddle-- $145 Rear Derailer -- $50 and Front Derailer -- $46 retail total -- $236 55% -- $130 Shipping to 52404

[RBW] WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Chris
I am helping a friend with a build and she is looking to purchase either of both of these items. I thought i would give the forum a shot! Thanks Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] WTB: Shimano tiagra brake lever set for drop bars

2013-06-12 Thread PeterG
I am hoping to find some brake levers for a drop bar set-upRiv. part number is 15091...contact me off line...Thanks PeterG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
I love my wider 67 or 68 (whichever is unsprung), and had tried the B17, which was definitely too narrow. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:02:38 AM UTC-6, Chris wrote: I am helping a friend with a build and she is looking to purchase either of both of these items. I

Re: [RBW] Large SaddleSack Initial Impressions

2013-06-12 Thread Christopher Chen
Here's mine with a 16lb watermelon, with room to spare... http://flickr.com/photos/99743766@N00/9022305528 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: For Sale: Assorted Handlebars, Pedals, and a Saddle!!

2013-06-12 Thread Scott Mead
Another update: The following items are now sold: 48CM Noodles/Tektro R100 levers Albatross Bars MKS Touring Pedals Soma Noah's Arc Bars Grip King Pedals Everything else ... still available at the moment. Thanks again ... you guys are amazingly quick! Scott -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread Mike Schiller
Thanks Mitch. You might try a different browser. I had the same issue until I switched to Google Chrome. I didn't think there were any stores near Cuesta, seems kinda odd with the school there. I'm very familiar with that shopping area as my daughters both lived very near there while

Re: [RBW] Bristle to remove the bristle.

2013-06-12 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I started using a mug and a brush decades ago. The M-I-L gifted me with an Aramis (badger) set and it wsa too good not to use. Then J. Peterman came out with really fantastic shave cream in a tub (Taylor of Old Bond Street) which was the bomb. Of course, I eventually decided convenience was

[RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Frank Brose
Is she looking for a B68 or B67? The B68 is unsprung. The B67 is like the Flyer only wider. On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:02:38 AM UTC-5, Chris wrote: I am helping a friend with a build and she is looking to purchase either of both of these items. I thought i would give the forum a shot!

[RBW] Re: FS: All the Great Rivendell Components, minus frame, almost New Condition!

2013-06-12 Thread CapNMike
I am in need of the Sugino XD2 crank due to a moment of mechanic incompetence. Please contact me off list. Thanks, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Chris
I think either would suffice. She is looking for a wider saddle for upright riding, sprung or unsprung doesn't really make a difference. Although, aesthetically, i definitely prefer the look of a sprung saddle. On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:35:31 AM UTC-7, Frank Brose wrote: Is she looking

[RBW] Re: Bristle to remove the bristle.

2013-06-12 Thread Bryan
Don't do it! Bryan On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:37:31 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Makes me almost want to shave. http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Tim Gavin
The Champion Flyer is a (narrow) B17 on springs. It's more for a heavy guy than a lady. I'm 210# and the Flyer is great for me. The B68 is probably the best choice for her. On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Chris citrowbri...@gmail.com wrote: I think either would suffice. She is looking for

Re: [RBW] Re: Bristle to remove the bristle.

2013-06-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
The Rabbi in me won't :-) Hugh Sunland, Ca On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Bryan bwedg...@gmail.com wrote: Don't do it! Bryan On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:37:31 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Makes me almost want to shave. http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm ~Hugh

Re: [RBW] WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Dan McNamara
I do have a honey Champion Flyer S that is not being used. That is the slightly shorter version that is designed for women. Or ladies as they probably say at Brooks. Let me know if there is any interest. Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78804025@N08/sets/72157631883563542/ Dan Marin

[RBW] Did you?

2013-06-12 Thread Christopher Wiggins
Go to a longer stem when you switched from Drops to Albas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Large SaddleSack Initial Impressions

2013-06-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That's impressive! But with my Banjo Bros market panniers *I* can carry that watermelon + a couple of six packs! On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Here's mine with a 16lb watermelon, with room to spare...

Re: [RBW] Large SaddleSack Initial Impressions

2013-06-12 Thread Peter Morgano
Market panniers dont have a top flap though, do they? On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: That's impressive! But with my Banjo Bros market panniers *I* can carry that watermelon + a couple of six packs! On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Christopher

[RBW] Re: Did you?

2013-06-12 Thread William
In general most people do. I think the general consensus is that the *right *stem for your albas is 2-3cm longer than the right one for drops. Applying that to me, I'm using a 9 or 10cm stem on most of my bikes, and I'd use a 12 or 13 with Albas. On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:59:38 AM

Re: [RBW] Large SaddleSack Initial Impressions

2013-06-12 Thread Christopher Chen
Not sure, but if these dimensions are right: 13.5″ L x 8″ W x 15″ H That watermelon was larger than that smallest dimension. But Anne was right--with the top flap, I can carry a six pack on top of my camping load: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8732869528/ ...and look classy doing

[RBW] Re: Did you?

2013-06-12 Thread Michael Hechmer
Did you lower the stem too by how much? On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:59:38 PM UTC-4, Christopher Wiggins wrote: Go to a longer stem when you switched from Drops to Albas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Did you?

2013-06-12 Thread Minh
i did, but you have to look at the bike you have, alba's (and boscos) can compensate for a too long headtube as well, so take that into consideration, if your current setup is perfect then yes a longer stem should be used to get the position about the same. i lowered my stem slightly as well,

[RBW] Re: Did you?

2013-06-12 Thread Doug M
My Hunqapillar with Albas and my Hilsen with Noodles have the same TT length, 62.5. Hunq has a tallux 12, the Hilsen has a tallux 9 and they both seem to have pretty close to perfect reach for me. On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:19:16 PM UTC-5, William wrote: In general most people do. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Did you?

2013-06-12 Thread Dan Abelson
Not quite the same but when I went from drops to a jitensha bar on my crosscheck, I went with a 2cm longer stem. Dan Abelson On Jun 12, 2013 2:19 PM, Doug M yengamg...@gmail.com wrote: My Hunqapillar with Albas and my Hilsen with Noodles have the same TT length, 62.5. Hunq has a tallux 12,

[RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Mitch Browne
Chris, I have Brooks Countess on a shelf $60 + shipping. http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/saddles/brooks-countess.html It would need to be broken in. Great condition, the rails may have been rubbed a little. Mitch Browne San Luis Obispo, CA On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:02:38 AM UTC-7, Chris

[RBW] Re: Did you?

2013-06-12 Thread EGNolan
I did. I went from 8-9 cm stems to 12-13 cm stems when using albatross bosco's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Peter Morgano
Not to snipe here but what color on the countess? I am looking for a new saddle for my wife's MB2. If Chris isnt interested that is. On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.comwrote: Chris, I have Brooks Countess on a shelf $60 + shipping.

[RBW] RE: Price drop on Bike Friday!

2013-06-12 Thread Rich Powers
A lot of lookers and not much action! PRICE DROP from $1600 to $1400 with trailer or $1300 with out trailer. On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Rich Powers richdpow...@gmail.com wrote: This is a recent NWT and includes many extras. I believe the center to center seat tube length is about 20 and

[RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Mitch Browne
Description oversight. Black Countess. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] 17/20 Dingles: $18 shipped CONUS or TRADE? Other things too!

2013-06-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I have two 17/20 Dingles that are refractory to my ring/stay/cog desiderata. Both used, both show no signs of wear X/C dirt, both $18 shipped CONUS. I've ordered a 17/19. I am open to trades -- as Cajun chef Justin Wilson replied when asked what wine goes best with his gumbo, Watcha got? Surprise

[RBW] WTB: Shimano tiagra brake lever set for drop bars

2013-06-12 Thread PeterG
Got the brake levers..thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Chris
Mitch. Thanks for the offer. I have sent the info to my friend and should hear back from her shortly. On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:03:56 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote: Chris, I have Brooks Countess on a shelf $60 + shipping. http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/saddles/brooks-countess.html

[RBW] Re: For Sale: Assorted Handlebars, Pedals, and a Saddle!!

2013-06-12 Thread Scott Mead
WOW. Thanks for all of the interest and purchases! This group really moves fast! Several Items have sold, but a few are still available. All item prices include standard shipping to anywhere in the lower 48 states. Sorry, no shipping outside the US, either. Here’s the list of “still

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Peter Morgano
Ooh, black is the color I am looking for. Chris if your friend doesn't want it I will take it Mitch. Thanks. On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Chris citrowbri...@gmail.com wrote: Mitch. Thanks for the offer. I have sent the info to my friend and should hear back from her shortly. On

[RBW] Re: Did you?

2013-06-12 Thread Christopher Wiggins
Kind of where I was headed. Thanks all. On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:59:38 PM UTC-4, Christopher Wiggins wrote: Go to a longer stem when you switched from Drops to Albas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread dougP
Mike: I like your idea. I'll plan to be there Friday afternoon as well. Are we considering hiker-biker at Morro Bay or getting a reservation at Morro Strand? Or other location? Related topic: I plan to hang around the area a while longer (or maybe come up earlier) check out some

[RBW] Re: Rope swings and bike rides.

2013-06-12 Thread dougP
We're kinda short on water here in California. We do have a nice ocean :). dougP On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:16:07 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: great photos, but aren't you supposed to get wet on those things? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/fish4/chunt002.jpg

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Chris
Peter...i took a pass on it. She is looking for a honey or brown saddle. So enjoy! On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:53:11 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Ooh, black is the color I am looking for. Chris if your friend doesn't want it I will take it Mitch. Thanks. On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - Albatross Bars and Brooks B68 or Champion flyer

2013-06-12 Thread Peter Morgano
Ah, well best of luck in the search. Mitch PM me when our get a chance to set up payment. Thanks. On Jun 12, 2013 6:02 PM, Chris citrowbri...@gmail.com wrote: Peter...i took a pass on it. She is looking for a honey or brown saddle. So enjoy! On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:53:11 PM UTC-7, Peter

Re: [RBW] Large SaddleSack Initial Impressions

2013-06-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Oh don't worry, you can get a 16 lb watermelon in one of them, easily with room to spare. They have that ideal balance of stiffness to keep their shape and flexibility to accept oversize items. On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Not sure, but if these

[RBW] Re: 17/20 Dingles: $18 shipped CONUS or TRADE? Other things too!

2013-06-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
One Dingle left! Shipped for less than half the price of a new one before shipping! On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I have two 17/20 Dingles that are refractory to my ring/stay/cog desiderata. Both used, both show no signs of wear X/C dirt, both $18

[RBW] DINgles are DONe!

2013-06-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
All gone! -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: 17/20 Dingles: $18 shipped CONUS or TRADE? Other things too!

2013-06-12 Thread RayO
I thought I knew bicycles...but what is a Dingle and do I need a shiny one? On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I have two 17/20 Dingles that are refractory to my ring/stay/cog desiderata. Both used, both show no signs of wear X/C dirt, both $18 shipped

Re: [RBW] Re: 17/20 Dingles: $18 shipped CONUS or TRADE? Other things too!

2013-06-12 Thread Peter Morgano
If you need to ask On Jun 12, 2013 8:48 PM, RayO lochm...@msn.com wrote: I thought I knew bicycles...but what is a Dingle and do I need a shiny one? On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I have two 17/20 Dingles that are refractory to my ring/stay/cog

Re: [RBW] Re: 17/20 Dingles: $18 shipped CONUS or TRADE? Other things too!

2013-06-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
You need at least two, but unfortunately you are too late for the whopping deal on mine. http://www.jensonusa.com/17-21/Surly-Dingle-Track-Dual-Fixed-Gear-Cog On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:48 PM, RayO lochm...@msn.com wrote: I thought I knew bicycles...but what is a Dingle and do I need a shiny

[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread Mitch Browne
Doug, I caution you on accommodations. I believe most campgrounds will be in demand with limited reservations, if any, with maybe some first come first served spots. El Chorro says on their website that arriving in the middle toward end of the week is the best chance. I wouldn't count on

[RBW] Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread hsmitham
My Brothers new LHT with Surly racks 26 wheels. I talked him into this one as he didn't want to spend $4K+ on an Atlantis. I think it's a great looking bike and came with a great group.Our up coming tour will flesh out how he likes it. He'll be running Ortlieb Back rollers and Arkel T-28's in

Re: [RBW] Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Nice bike, until you get to that bar! Ouch! On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:11 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: My Brothers new LHT with Surly racks 26 wheels. I talked him into this one as he didn't want to spend $4K+ on an Atlantis. I think it's a great looking bike and came with a

Re: [RBW] Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread Eric Platt
Having seen the smog white in person, it's quite nice. Good looking bike. Like the bars way up like that. Glad Surly went with a longer steerer tube. Really think the LHT with 26 wheels in larger sizes fills a spot in the bike community that's often overlooked. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed,

[RBW] Re: Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread Mike
I'm sure he'll love that bike. Looks great although I do think he could come down a bit on the bars as they look a bit high. But if that's where he like them, then he should leave him. Somewhere on the Surly site it mentions that their steerer tubes are sturdy and you don't have to worry

[RBW] Re: Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread dougP
Looks good. I agree he should leave the steerer alone until he's 100% comfortable with it. Don't hurry with the hacksaw. Touring bike? check Stout racks? check Chubby tires: check OK, load it up go! Have a good trip post pics. dougP On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:11:59 PM UTC-7,

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Mike, He was lamenting whether to go with 700c or 26 I told him with the 26 you'll have a vast choice of tires with different tread, and a cushy ride. I do think he needs to lower the HB's and just have the spacers above. I also recalled what you said about wishing you'd had the 26 er which I

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Doug, Thanks for the kind words. I of course agree with holding off on cutting too soon. His mechanic was in a hurry to cut it and he resisted. Hugh Sunland, Ca On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:07 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Looks good. I agree he should leave the steerer alone until he's

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread Mike
Don't fear the stacked steerer tube. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8316708732/in/photolist-dEViKS This was my LHT set-up for its maiden voyage. Fenders and many miles have since been added. The nice thing about the 26ers is that you can fit a 2.15 tire, that includes many mountain

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Funny he's putting a VO stem on today. and he's already running the Big Apples. 700 x 50 is impressive I imagine without fenders? Hugh Sunland, Ca On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Don't fear the stacked steerer tube.

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread dougP
Before I got my Atlantis, I was talking to Riv about a custom for touring. One of my specs was 26 wheels. To me, versatility is key, and for my purposes 26 was preferable. Long story made short, I've never regretted my stock 58 cm Atlantis with 700 wheels. But if I was a bike designer, I'd

[RBW] Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread RoadieRyan
Nicely done good to start small and build up. I wanted a Riv and started with a Handsome devil, very close in spec to the LHT, love the Devil and still want a Riv. Enjoy riding with your bro that's the important piece. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv'ed LHT

2013-06-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
BTW, I hadn't noticed the wheel size in the photo. Put a chubby tire on 26 looks just fine. Exactly! Hugh Sunland, Ca On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:16 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Before I got my Atlantis, I was talking to Riv about a custom for touring. One of my specs was 26 wheels.

[RBW] Re: For Sale: Assorted Handlebars, Pedals, and a Saddle!!

2013-06-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Standard operating procedure is you and a buyer agree to terms, then that's it. Sometimes it takes a day for the buyer to get to Paypal, but that's part of the deal. Jumping the line ahead of someone who's already agreed to buy by getting there first is frowned upon. On Wednesday, June 12,

[RBW] Re: Sugino Triple XD2 (24-36-46) 2-month review...with pic...

2013-06-12 Thread Michael
PS- having the 24t ring is fantastic because we have some big hills around here. Good to have confidence that I can go anywhere with a riding friend and not have to worry about making it up hills like I did with the Bleriot crankset. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-12 Thread dougP
Manny: I feel a bit like Mike I have hijacked your thread. Not intentionally; I just got excited by the whole idea. What are your thoughts on camping vs lodging, and some of the sites that have been tossed out? Other than Morro Bay San Simeon, all I know about the other places is what