[RBW] Re: BLUG: New color on prototype and Cheviot

2014-09-19 Thread Ron Mc
What color is your bike? Metallic barf On Thursday, September 18, 2014 7:13:23 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: That metallic barfo green is great. I might have to get my deposit in on one. The gears are turning. On Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:18:12 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote: So at

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread David Stein
I did look into they Yves a bit and kind of remember it from the website back in the day when I could only window shop. Totally open to that too. Can't recall every seeing one pop up for sale on the list or my saved ebay searches though. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:53 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW

[RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Jan disagrees with the notion that short chainstays result in a sportier ride. Some riders and builders believe that longer chainstays make the bike more stableIn practice, we have found chainstay length does not noticeably influence the bike's stability. Bicycle Quarterly Volume 10 No

[RBW] Re: BLUG: New color on prototype and Cheviot

2014-09-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
My Mom is a retired seamstress. In my youth, we'd always laugh when Cloth World nearby had their clearance sale on sewing machines. They'd always blow out the unpopular colors of good machines. Their newspaper add would always say 50% off Barfo Green, Barfo Purple, Barfo Red etc. It

[RBW] Re: BLUG: New color on prototype and Cheviot

2014-09-19 Thread Minh
i think this is one of those colors you need to see in person and fully built up as a bike. a bike with mostly black parts could look sharp On Friday, September 19, 2014 10:15:04 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: My Mom is a retired seamstress. In my youth, we'd always laugh when Cloth

[RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Bill, I will not disagree that the Betty Foy, Chevoit and Appaloosa are all fun to ride, but I would hope they all have different ride characteristics. Otherwise, we would simply be debating colors and head badges. Matt On Friday, September 19, 2014 7:10:41 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

[RBW] Re: Latest DIY Project: Making a Baggins Boxy Rando bag more....um....BOXY!

2014-09-19 Thread Iron Rider
Nice job. What did you use for the cross bar? Also, you could use that to hang an internal sleeve - and add another pocket to the bacg. On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:30:39 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: Tonight I made a custom crossbar for my Nitto F-15 which totally squared up the front

[RBW] Re: Latest DIY Project: Making a Baggins Boxy Rando bag more....um....BOXY!

2014-09-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
I used a small length of Aluminum L-Channel. On Friday, September 19, 2014 8:44:14 AM UTC-7, Iron Rider wrote: Nice job. What did you use for the cross bar? Also, you could use that to hang an internal sleeve - and add another pocket to the bacg. On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:30:39 AM

[RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Matt I was merely pointing out the counter-opinion to your humble opinion that chainstay length has something to do with ride quality. Your opinion is the majority opinion, no question. Jan and Grant have a different opinion, that's all. They are in the minority, but they might be right.

[RBW] FS: Suntour DT Shifters, 650b Col de la Vie Tires, 27.2 Budget Seatposts, Seat Wedges, VO Decaluer

2014-09-19 Thread Conway Bennett
I'd maybe be interested in the saddle bag support. I'm in chi too so let me know when/if I can come take a look. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: suggestions for a bike computer?

2014-09-19 Thread Steven Frederick
I'm starting to think a Garmin might be a valid choice for me and my multiple bikes/different wheelsizes too. Is the 200 a reasonable choice? I'm not interested in the calories burned or heart rate, fitness or cadence features of the higher end ones, but I do think some of the map/routing

[RBW] Anyone have a tandem carrier for loan/rent?

2014-09-19 Thread Joe Bartoe
Hi All, I'm in the San Diego/Orange County area and need to deliver a tandem to a customer. Anyone out there has carrier to loan or rent? Shooting in the dark, Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter:

[RBW] Quickbeam 58CM Green Machine Phil Wood Hubs Brooks Nitto

2014-09-19 Thread Hobo
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[RBW] FS: 57cm Velo Orange Campeur, 59cm Surly Steamroller; 54cm Moser Leader AX, 16.5 Breezer Lightening

2014-09-19 Thread Scott Calhoun
At my spouses gentle, and not so gentle urging, it is time to let go of some really great steel frames. I had big dreams for these frames, but a garage remodel means I must part with these darlings. There are all Arizona bikes with no rust whatsoever. I think my prices are fair, but if you

[RBW] Re: WTB Simpleone or Quickbeam frameset 58cm

2014-09-19 Thread Hobo
They are Schwalbe Big Apple 29x2 On Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45:19 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Hobo, what are those tires on there? On Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:49:22 AM UTC-7, Hobo wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv Dynohubs?

2014-09-19 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I see a lot of front wheelbuilds in Rich Lesnik's future - J / cyclofiend.com On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:06:35 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: Sinewave, maker of a USB charger that I recently purchased for my PBP bike, likes the Shutter Precision hubs:

Re: [RBW] FS: 57cm Velo Orange Campeur, 59cm Surly Steamroller; 54cm Moser Leader AX, 16.5 Breezer Lightening

2014-09-19 Thread Goshen Peter
Great bikes, I love the Breezer! Only 3 sizes too small, haha! On Sep 19, 2014 1:56 PM, Scott Calhoun sc...@zonagardens.com wrote: At my spouses gentle, and not so gentle urging, it is time to let go of some really great steel frames. I had big dreams for these frames, but a garage remodel

[RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread Evan
Hi Bill, If chainstay length doesn't matter/makes no difference in ride quality--such as making a bike more or less stable, or lively, or able to climb well--then why bother to make a bike (such as Cheviot) with long chainstays and another bike (such as Yves) with medium chainstays and

Re: [RBW] FS: Suntour DT Shifters, 650b Col de la Vie Tires, 27.2 Budget Seatposts, Seat Wedges, VO Decaluer

2014-09-19 Thread David Banzer
Hi there, Sounds good. I live on the Northside by Horner Park. I think you had a saddlebag repair as well. If you still do I could take a look and let you know if I'm able to do the fix. I also work near Wicker Park/Uke Village during the week if that's easier. Thanks, David Sent from my iPad

RE: [RBW] Quickbeam 58CM Green Machine Phil Wood Hubs Brooks Nitto

2014-09-19 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Two questions: I. How much are you asking? And 2. Why are you selling this lovely machine? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hobo Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:32 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW]

Re: [RBW] FS: Suntour DT Shifters, 650b Col de la Vie Tires, 27.2 Budget Seatposts, Seat Wedges, VO Decaluer

2014-09-19 Thread captainconwaybennett
I'm in Andersonville so Horner park is more convenient. I do need some patching of bags done and I'd be more than happy to pay for that too. The rear hupe purchase is in hopes of not exacerbating the wear on my saddleback. Feel free to text me at 239.877.4119. Fair winds, Captain Conway

Re: [RBW] FS: Suntour DT Shifters, 650b Col de la Vie Tires, 27.2 Budget Seatposts, Seat Wedges, VO Decaluer

2014-09-19 Thread David Banzer
Sorry everyone - last message was meant as PM. P Update though: Shifters, CdlV tires, Plum Saddle Wedge, Deluxy Wedge, and Shimano rear hub are sold. Still have 27.2 seatpost (have a bunch) - $12 shipped Gray Saddle Wedge - $35 shipped Brown Saddle Wedge - $35 shipped Silver Hupe Saddlebag

[RBW] Re: Anyone have a tandem carrier for loan/rent?

2014-09-19 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Joe, I have one you can use. I'll be in Irvine on Saturday noonish if that will work. PM me if that will work. On Friday, September 19, 2014 10:43:47 AM UTC-7, jbartoe wrote: Hi All, I'm in the San Diego/Orange County area and need to deliver a tandem to a customer. Anyone out there has

Re: [RBW] Quickbeam 58CM Green Machine Phil Wood Hubs Brooks Nitto

2014-09-19 Thread Minh
Wow, how did you get the big apples to fit? I didn't think the QB had the clearance for these (thought they maxed out around 47mm). How is the clearance? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread Patrick Moore
I was rather surprised to find that the chainstays of my Ram are 1-1.5 cm shorter than those on my 2 customs -- 43.5 per the geom chart versus 44.5 (center of horizontal dropouts) and yet the customs handle a bit quicker than does the Ram. The customs exhibit an unerring straight line stability

[RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Hi Evan I would not claim to have made any conclusions for myself on this topic. I haven't gone out of my way to set up two identical bikes where the only difference is chainstay length and ride them extensively. Grant, Keven and Jan all have done exactly that experiment, and all three of

[RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread Christian
Fantastic response Bill--a model of clarity, thoroughness, and thoughtfulness. I have no stake in this debate; just thought your response was a good one. As for me, I really have no idea of the chainstay lengths on my Terraferma, my Jones, my LHT, or Salsa Spearfish, nor own my now sold

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread James Warren
I buy into the idea that it's all a matter of how upright you sit. When you sit way upright (as encouraged by Cheviot and Appaloosa) the center of mass does move backward. In that case, lengthening the support base through longer chainstay seems to make sense. Rivs' chainstays have generally

[RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread Garth
Neither ! lolToo short in top tube for I . I choose a custom , unless another model comes out :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Goshen Peter
A Tig welded Rivendell? say it aint so -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Fine with me if the bike is what I want and affordable. Didn't Grant (or someone else at RBW) mention that the Clem Smith would be sold only as a complete bike...no framesets? Did I imagine that? On Friday, September 19, 2014 3:20:02 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: A Tig welded Rivendell? say

Re: [RBW] Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Dan McNamara
Some but not all Tig sounds like a good compromise. If the welds are clean the lugs understated then it could look nice. A $1500 complete Riv is still pricey but is a new market for RBW these days. Looking forward to seeing the prototype. Dan On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Goshen Peter

Re: [RBW] Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Goshen Peter
I'm sorry, there are plenty of fine bike manufacturers that use tig and it looks great on those bikes but it just seems to dilute the brand, IMO. On Sep 19, 2014 4:45 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote: Some but not all Tig sounds like a good compromise. If the welds are clean the lugs

Re: [RBW] Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Chen
Home of the Lugged Steel Frame On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry, there are plenty of fine bike manufacturers that use tig and it looks great on those bikes but it just seems to dilute the brand, IMO. On Sep 19, 2014 4:45 PM, Dan McNamara

Re: [RBW] Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 09/19/2014 04:55 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: I'm sorry, there are plenty of fine bike manufacturers that use tig and it looks great on those bikes but it just seems to dilute the brand, IMO. It said some TIG but not all. Now what does that mean? It could mean welding at the bottom

[RBW] Re: Dia compe knob grip?

2014-09-19 Thread Evan Baird
Have em. Love em. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rdM2kf2ThHc/VByfzLyGWUI/V9M/GuHo0HyzkDg/s1600/14899910109_1aa23013cb_z%2B%281%29.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: WTB: Soma Highway 1 Bar -- Got One or Know Where to Get One?

2014-09-19 Thread Evan Baird
More coming later this month hopefully. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread lungimsam
Whoa! 2nd potentially offensive post by RBW in the last few weeks. As much as I love RBW (and I do, I think they make great bikes and seem like gentle and kind people), I didn't enjoy being told by them (in that Hiawatha post) that my ancestors genocided the Native Americans: * -Many

[RBW] Swapping out forks? Redwood Experiment?

2014-09-19 Thread David Banzer
So, I'm pleased with my Redwood so far, with the slight bummer that I want it to carry a front load better. Basically, I need a fork with more rake, yielding lower trail. The headtube is 73degrees, which is generally used in front loading rando types. I'm happy with space for tires/fenders, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Goshen Peter
and this has what to do with the new tig welded clem? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:59 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Whoa! 2nd potentially offensive post by RBW in the last few weeks. As much as I love RBW (and I do, I think they make great bikes and seem like gentle and kind

[RBW] Re: Swapping out forks? Redwood Experiment?

2014-09-19 Thread Kieran J
Tom Matchak talks about a couple of Rams on his blog that have been fitted with his low-trail conversion forks. Some pics there too. As you say, the HT angle should mean it'll work great. http://tommatchakcycles.blogspot.ca/search/label/forks KJ On Friday, September 19, 2014 6:07:19 PM UTC-4,

[RBW] Re: Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread lungimsam
I have removed the post. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread lungimsam
I have removed the post. Sorry for any inconvenience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Patrick Moore
All this pother has moved me to go look into this controversial post. Will report. After getting back ... Yes, I -- who find it hard to get indignant about such things -- even I find the phrase a bit offensive, and I'm half Asian. (Don't know if it's the good or the bad half.) But, still, it's

[RBW] Re: Swapping out forks? Redwood Experiment?

2014-09-19 Thread dougP
Tom Matchak made a fork for my Atlantis, reducing the trail from the stock 65 mm to 40 mm. This is a 58 cm frame with 700 x 40 tires. I've run it for a few years now like it a lot. I too preferred more load in front found the stock to be a bit wandering at low speeds. No big deal, just a

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Simpleone or Quickbeam frameset 58cm

2014-09-19 Thread cyclotourist
Wow!, thanks Hobo! And RR, this is what a green QB would look like at the top of Jedi: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3999839160 Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Hobo antiqueapert...@gmail.com wrote: They are

[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq

2014-09-19 Thread Mobile Bill
John Thanks for the additional assessment. I appreciate the convenience of having two sets of brakes on my Saluki drops. But I only miss them on the Boscos during those couple of minutes when I'm tucked and screaming downhilll at 30 plus miles an hour and don't really want to stop! I still

Re: [RBW] Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Somewhere I have an RBW tee that says something about always lugged. Maybe always = 20 years? Anyway there are lots of nice tîg welded frames around. It is less costly than lug work. There are frames with more exotic tubing too. Don't think Riv uses double tapered stays anymore, so what you have

Re: [RBW] Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Sky Coulter
tig and lugged is still lugged. On Friday, September 19, 2014 6:48:24 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: Somewhere I have an RBW tee that says something about always lugged. Maybe always = 20 years? Anyway there are lots of nice tîg welded frames around. It is less costly than lug work. There

Re: [RBW] Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Goshen Peter
Like a cashmere sweater that's 20% cashmere On Sep 19, 2014 9:57 PM, Sky Coulter incommontr...@gmail.com wrote: tig and lugged is still lugged. On Friday, September 19, 2014 6:48:24 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: Somewhere I have an RBW tee that says something about always lugged. Maybe

[RBW] Re: Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread jpp
Honestly I like the idea. I think it is just impossible to produce a fully lugged bike under $2k. I have always felt there was a market for something less expensive than a Riv but a little nicer than a surly. On Friday, September 19, 2014 4:20:02 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: A Tig welded

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Addisonwilhite
I think that's a Gunnar. I have two lovely ones. And a riv. Good for riv for trying something new. No doubt it will be a nice riding bike. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:18 PM, jpp paste...@notes.udayton.edu wrote: Honestly I like the idea. I think it is just impossible to

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

2014-09-19 Thread Goshen Peter
Independent fabrication also makes beautiful steel bikes. On Sep 19, 2014 11:18 PM, jpp paste...@notes.udayton.edu wrote: Honestly I like the idea. I think it is just impossible to produce a fully lugged bike under $2k. I have always felt there was a market for something less expensive than