I really don't want to learn whether a Jones Plus could work with a
Rohloff and belt drive. I don't want to know this.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Mike Shaljian mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote:
Patrick,
The thing about the ride of the Jones Plus on the road is that it really is
like a
I'm surprised to hear Mark's experience with shredded Thunder Burts on the
Oregon Outback. I ran the liteskin 2.1 tubeless, and had one leak early
on the first day, but managed to spin seal it, and never had to pump it up
again. My buddy was running the Snakeskin 2.1 rear and 2.25 front, and
I'm putting up my recount of the trip by day. The first couple are up:
http://stonehog.com/2015/06/07/oregon-outback-2015-day-1/
http://stonehog.com/2015/06/08/oregon-outback-2015-day-2/
Still thinking about this trip!
Brian
Seattle, WA
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, stonehog
Brian,
Glad to hear your report em. I wasn't giving up them and hearing your
experiences adds to my resolve to run them. And so supple :)
Tail Winds,
~Hugh
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein
http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
Wonder if the Hillborne (650b version) will be able to fit these.
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Incidentally, one of my theoretical design benchmarks or gauges or
touchstones is the Rivendell Atlantis. I'd have something built with road
bike tubing (bowing to the builder's recommendations for durability).
I see that the model with a 57 cm top tube is the 56 cm, which comes with
26 tires.
Oh! I can't wait to put those 26 tires on my Atlantis. I wonder
about durability. Could I tour on them, or would they be too fragile?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, Jan. Kudos for bringing these to market in a very timely fashion!
KJ
On Tuesday,
The Stealth Bomba is crying out for that 584x48 – can’t wait!
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From what Rich explained to me that the XT hubs are standard, though
Shimano hubs are made in Asia anyways, and the Velocity sport hubs are
loose ball and just as easy to service, and made in Taiwan and has a silver
finish.
The Tektro sidepulls aren't too bad once you replace them with Kool
Oh man Mike those bikes are the bomb! The Mathews I find especially drool
worthy. I want a build like that in the worst way. So disappointed that I
can't get a fatter tire like a Quasi Moto to squeeze between the chainstays
of my Rawland Stag. If you ever want to sell ... ;-)
Cheers
Jayme
On
The 559 X 32s are coming too ...?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:
Rim width matters much less with very supple tires, since the sidewalls
don't hold up the bike. So you need to run somewhat higher pressures, but
the supple casing still gives you much
Excellent recaps. I like reading about riders who did the Outback
without racing. Nothing wrong with racing, but I like reading about
riders who rode it the way I'd ride it.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:13 PM, stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm putting up my recount of the trip by day. The
Mike Schiller: thanks for this; beautiful bikes btw.
We'll see what has to give. I can live with TCO - have in the past, even
with fixed gears in urban traffic, so it's not impossible. But I'm
confident that Chauncey can come up with the best solution.
Mike (Shaljian): thanks for the additional
Rim width matters much less with very supple tires, since the sidewalls
don't hold up the bike. So you need to run somewhat higher pressures, but
the supple casing still gives you much better comfort and traction (and
speed).
Cyclocross and pro mountain bikers run tubulars on rims that have a
Brian. Incredible. How did you like the SA saddle on the trip?
-Jim W.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:13 PM, stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm putting up my recount of the trip by day. The first couple are up:
http://stonehog.com/2015/06/07/oregon-outback-2015-day-1/
Thanks, Jan. Kudos for bringing these to market in a very timely fashion!
KJ
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:18:19 AM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote:
Rim width matters much less with very supple tires, since the sidewalls
don't hold up the bike. So you need to run somewhat higher pressures, but
Excited for the 26ers.
Eric
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Ah, ok then. The only parts on the list I would consider upgrading are
brakes (if using cantis, not crazy about the tektros but they are ok) and
the wheelset. If Phil Wood or XT or something a little nicer isn't in the
budget, then that's fine too. Derailleurs on a friction-shifted bike
Being Frugal is great! There are a few things I didn't really think through
or know about when I built my Sam 9 months ago.
I wish I would of built the front wheel with a dyno hub,so I could add
a head and tail light later. I don't commute or ride much at night but now
days I like to have
If you still have one of those ~$1000 bikes, you could move some or all of
the parts over to the new frame.
Then you can spend time finding parts to put the old frame back on the
road, or simply sell the leftovers.
If you don't have a spare bike, there's always Craigslist. Any size bike
will
Saluki, MAP Bars
Hetre's float over paved roads
Get in the dirt, soon
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The stiff olive or tan canvas retains its boxy shape after many miles. I
can not see *easily* into the bag but it isn't a problem for me. When I
ride without extra clothing the XS will hold what I take: general
flat-fixing stuff (tube/patches/levers/multi-tool; not a spare tire,
though) and
I wonder if no-retention works best if you pedal small gears at a highish
cadence, rather than if you mash. Can anyone comment on this?
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I recently built a bike with 8-speed XT bits that were gathered in a
leisurely fashion, mostly from the bay, along with this and that from the
list and from my boxes. Each individual transaction seemed cheap, and I
was careful never to total the costs, therefore the build was cheap. QED.
Next up: 27
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:54:54 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
Full circle!!
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:43:51 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
26 is the new 650B!!
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 6:23:06 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Looks like
Full circle!!
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:43:51 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
26 is the new 650B!!
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 6:23:06 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Looks like Jan got his first production prototypes for two new
anticipated tire models. Even fatter
I think I would like to try that 26x2.3 on my 90s MTB ;)
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like Jan got his first production prototypes for two new anticipated
tire models. Even fatter road/gravel tires in 559x54 and 584x48.
Carsick Designs has a nice barrel bag. I love it. Enough to put in spare
tube, levers, multi tool, snack bars, maybe a thin anorak. I'm not sure, I
know I fit a standard sized Krytonite U-lock in there with all my tools and
food. Works great.
On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 4:17:11 PM UTC-4,
While at Riv were the clems available to ride?
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-clemsmith.htm
For the price of the HIllborne frame you get a complete bike ready to roll!
I know it's not the Hillborne, but considering the evolution of riv bikes
I'd say all the good that's in the Hillborne
26 is the new 650B!!
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 6:23:06 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Looks like Jan got his first production prototypes for two new anticipated
tire models. Even fatter road/gravel tires in 559x54 and 584x48.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/
Now you need two new
Fantastic ride report, and good wishes for PBP.
~pb
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 9:08:27 PM UTC-7, Iron Rider wrote:
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2015/06/east-creek-600k-simmering-melange-of.html
for those who may be interested.
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Hoping I can run the 650bx48 on my Saluki sans fenders. It'll be tight if it
works!
-J
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Thank God that I've been blessed with sturdy and injury free knees for 60
years, but I did recently start taking glucosamine hydrochloride in some
sulfur compound (big bottle from Costco) because my brother says it helps
his runners' knees and ankle joints.
I *think* I've experienced less of an
That was my thought exactly! So my 1990 Fisher HK-II mtb just needs fresh
tires to be on the cutting edge. I'm so stoked to be in the curl on this
one.
dougP
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:43:51 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
26 is the new 650B!!
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015
I have no idea, Patrick. I ride the steep in SS but not with the weight
you're talking about. And don't know how much I'd notice the ability to
lift up on the rear pedal.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 1:56:20 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
I shall have to try it. But what
And by Riding across Washington and Seattle I meant Washington and
Oregon. Doh. Need more coffee.
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 3:20:07 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
I just finished an 8 day tour across Washington and Seattle and had some
interesting observations regarding clothes
- I
Rack is sold.
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 8:31:02 AM UTC-5, john muhl wrote:
$175 shipped; not sure of the exact model number but it is the same rack
as pictured here:
https://www.benscycle.com/p-2137-nitto-campee-rear-rack-26.aspx
They'd last way longer than 3 days for sure. That was just how long I
decided to go before switching. I know many people who stick with one pair.
The Riv ones are probably 3 times thicker than the Mountain Equip. Co-op
and Smartwool pairs I've had. They're definitely designed with a bike seat
in
Sounds like my wardrobe.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:37 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
That was my thought exactly! So my 1990 Fisher HK-II mtb just needs fresh
tires to be on the cutting edge. I'm so stoked to be in the curl on this
one.
dougP
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:43:51 AM
Retention free works high or low cadence for me. When I read Jan's jar
lid example, I thought Uh, pedal/handlebar does the same thing so I
personally suspect less difference in efficiency than retention vs. body
weight only. I'm not limited to my body weight on the downstroke when
pulling up
On 06/09/2015 01:04 PM, Philip Williamson wrote:
If you still have one of those ~$1000 bikes, you could move some or
all of the parts over to the new frame.
Then you can spend time finding parts to put the old frame back on the
road, or simply sell the leftovers.
You could even buy one of
i was persuaded to try the merino underwear thing, since im already on the
socks and shirt wagon. i had the same experience as you though. destroyed
after 2 days of riding. i was using minus33, which i guess are somewhat
budget. tried buying the striped riv ones, but they are out of those and
It makes zero difference to me :) I ride on the flats, sometime spinning
sometimes mashing. Up the ubiquitous 20 something percent climbs , both
seated and standing , makes no difference to me . I wonder how I put up
with riding rock hard boards called cycling shoes for so long . My feet
Ahahahaahahahha ! I was thinking the same thing . . . . .:-)
I can't wait for the new 5,6,7 speed freewheel revolution too . . . .
.. being silly . But hey , why not , many single speeders are already
going to 2 and 3 . What about those that want 4 , then 5 , then 6 and 7
again
Tarik:
Your photos remind me of something else I love about Europe: Large beer
glasses and small coffee cups (small but potent!). Oh, and the pastries
that go with the coffee.
dougP
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 9:43:55 PM UTC-7, tarik...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Jim,
I sort of tried this
Great writeup; I look forward to the next installments!
(But I want to know how those riders got an unboxed bike on the Coast
Starlight!)
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a
hodgepodge of bags (Riv
I have an SP PV-8 hub on one Hillborne and a current-generation SON28 on
another Hillborne. I like them both just fine. I may end up getting another
dynamo'd wheel in the future and, barring near-future failure of the one I
have, will probably get another SP PV-8 just because it's $150 cheaper.
If you're a cold person, bring a down sweater. If you're warm person, or a
freshly landed meteorite as my wife calls me, down is overkill for the
coast, but windbreakers are a must.
On synthetics vs down or wool, I only feel cozy with down or wool.
Synthetics keep me from being cold, but I
What a great ride!
I did it in 6 days on my Igleheart 29er. I couldn't image going any faster,
just the perfect mix of riding fun.
I saw Stonehog out there complimented on his Riv.
I believe I saw an Atlantis in Prineville but I was thinking I'd see alot
more based on the chatter on the
Of course after the test it was agreed that for racing, clipless is more
practical and safe , with the violent efforts and all. So again, whatever
suits your style :)
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I shall have to try it. But what about *really* steep hills? I find that I
not only pull down on the bar, but pull up on the pedal. Would losing the
last be a handicap?
I mean such occasions as grunting a 40 lb load up a very steep 1/4 to 1/2
mile hill up the side of a mesa in a 70 gear. Again,
Thanks to everyone for the feedback; and yes I meant tube not tire. I
probably wont move fast on this but it is good to know I'm headed in a
doable direction.
Rain, rain and more rain in the Green Mountains.
Michael
On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 4:17:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
I'm
Tom: FWIW, with a SON 20R on a 25 actual diameter wheel, my Edeluxe I puts
out usable light, if not full power, starting at about 5 or 6 mph. Full
comes on below 10, IIRC.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean
thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote:
I have an SP PV-8 hub on one
I just finished an 8 day tour across Washington and Seattle and had some
interesting observations regarding clothes
- I brought three t-shirts. I only ever wore one on the bike (merino
t-shirt, stayed dry while sweating). I'd often wear no shirt at all, which
was the most comfortable option.
FWIW, I find that decently made nylon boxers -- loose, hi-rise -- make very
comfortable riding togs -- nothing comes between me and my Target nylon
boxers.
The nice thing about these is that, tho' they will stink and within 24
hours if you ride much in them, they are very easy to wash and very
Hi Everyone,
I am going to reduce the price for the Coho before I resort to drastic measures
(...Ebay):
I'm offering the F/F/HS + Extras:
Price of Frame and fork plus Chris King HS, Decaleur, Front Rack, Berthoud bag
and Mafac Racer Brakes- $1100 + $100 shipping (Continental US).
hugh, where are you going?
im liking all the paring down suggestions.
i found a good deal on a nemo gogo, so ill be trying that out. not too much
smaller than my 1 man tent, and a breeze to set up/take down. packed, it's
the size of medium sized cantaloupe.
right now ive got a medium
Deacon: thanks.
To turn the question around (for everyone): what are the *advantages* of
riding no retention? I discount the reason given as no need for special
shoes since I certainly wouldn't be cycling fixed or off road no-retention
in Bass Weejuns on Tony Lamas or, for that matter, in Sperry
And I am not secretly and snidely asserting that retention is better*. If
no retention is proved to be more efficient, I'll drop my Keos and SPDs in
a NY minute.
But I *am* skeptical, since cycling and its related technology is after all
very mature, and foot retention dates back well over 100
They made a special arrangement with Amtrak, just for that trip,
because there were going to be so many bikes.
(But I want to know how those riders got an unboxed bike on the Coast
Starlight!)
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It really is a nice shirt!!!
On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 7:32:31 PM UTC-5, Wildcat96 wrote:
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Nice shirt Tony!
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Carradice Bag is sold.
GB bars, SA saddle, BS frame, and Soma Porteur rack still available. Feel
free to make an offer.
David
Chicago
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:15:35 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
As my storage space is overflowing with bike supplies, I can't buy new
stuff until unneeded
When will people learn to use U-locks...
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 2:58:31 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
It's common in Europe for couples to attach a lock to a bridge throw the
keys away (actually a cliche at this point). The poster child is one in
Paris that's suffering structural damage
Drew,
I've used the devold for a couple years now and only worn my first pair
out. They finally just disintegrated. I think they're worth every penny.
Mark,
Your clothing pack list is spot on. I on the other hand have a tendency to
overpack.
When I'm riding I really don't need much on as I'm
If I were a generally faster rider I might've gotten an SP SV-8 (which I
think is the one intended to work with smaller wheels with higher typical
rotation rates. But I don't like the notion of worrying about going fast
enough to see when I have a choice.
Dear Thomas Lynn,
Fast enough to see
Doug,
Yep, no shortage of fun stops for eating and drinking. I recall in the
chzech Republic I even liked goulash again after the ride, meat with brown
sauce 2 meals a day got a little tiring during the week before. The beauty
of the nicely spaced european village is you can roll around fairly
Drew,
I'm heading to Vancouver Island BC for a two week tour. I pine for the PNW
and further North, VI has been on my list.
Next year, I'm planning on doing the Oregon Outback like Mark just
finished and then some tours in the Sierra's.
I'm liking the Six Moons Designs Tent tarps for
The Nemo gogo is interesting, still like a tarp though a bit more
versatility. Seems if you have a leak on the air frame it could be a bummer
pretty small floor space height. It is a bivy though. And not cheap!
Tail Winds,
~Hugh
On Jun 9, 2015 4:57 PM, drew drewbeckme...@gmail.com wrote:
That's great news! I've been thinking of making an offer, but I'm glad you
were able to buy it. You need it more that I do.
You know, I would be a wreck if somebody stole my QB. Such an awesome bike.
Good luck with the build and riding it,
John
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:54:45 AM UTC-4,
Hi guys -
I didn't want to let this post fade without letting y'all know how much I
enjoyed your responses - especially the cajoling, encouragement, and
stories 'bout smoking'. While I'm still inhaling, I''m also now riding the
bike to work - about a seven mile commute each way from Silver
Not yet in the US.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_eye/2015/03/31/volvo_life_paint_invisible_safety_spray_paint_for_your_bike_that_glows_in.html
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Hurrah!
rod
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 9:23:06 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Looks like Jan got his first production prototypes for two new anticipated
tire models. Even fatter road/gravel tires in 559x54 and 584x48.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/
Now you need two new bikes to fit
The EL 650bx50 sounds dreamy.
Has Jan weighed in on whether a 23mm rim is adequate for a tire this wide?
KJ
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 9:23:06 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Looks like Jan got his first production prototypes for two new anticipated
tire models. Even fatter road/gravel
In the linked blog post he indicated that he installed them on a 23mm rim
and reports the width. He says he's been riding on them and thinks they
are awesome. He's said a wider rim would make them wider, so adequacy will
be in the eye of the beholder, I think. If you wanted to run them super
kurt, i've got the rivnut tool if you want to borrow it. I've done this
install a bunch of times, no problems.
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 9:09:15 AM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
I'm thinking of using rivnuts to install some bottle cages on a bike that
has only one cage mount. I know of the
Yes, that is the link to the Cheviot with the front rack I forgot to
include in my original post.
Thanks for all the insightful commentary and for giving me ideas.
Since the Cheviot Betty Foy front fork has attachment points at the
midpoint and tip, then the rack might as well use them.
I'm looking for a Nitto 27.2, 250mm seatpost. Either the S65 Crystal Fellow
or S83 would work for me. Thanks.
Steve Cole
Arlington, VA
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Price drop. Now asking $50.00 plus shipping CONUS.
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 12:53:44 AM UTC-5, Steven Butcher wrote:
Hello. I'm new to the group though have been following along for awhile.
I've a lightly use Acorn small handlebar bag I'd like to sell. It is the
olive green color
200k in albastaches, no problems; Done two ~60mi days in the Boscos, no
problem, The upright posture really helps keep pressure off the arms. Now,
be careful where you place your brake levers to keep you from flaring out
your wrists too much.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Steve Palincsar
I'm re-posting my 60cm Betty Foy for sale. Custom painted at DD Cycles.
Albatross build, Paul Thumbies with Shimano shifters.
Wheels built by Rich at Hands on Wheels.
Lightly used. Excellent condition.
Price Reduced... Asking $1800.
Would prefer local pick-up, but will ship if needed.
I'm looking for a pair of Shimano bar end shifter pods with the cable
stops/adjusters that go on the downtube braze-on posts. Any help
appreciated.
Thanks,
Steve Cole
Arlington, VA
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Hello,
Looking for a VO Rando rack and a 700c wheelset.
Wheelset should be all silver and 130mm shimano freehub. For a classic
steel build.
Thinking $50ish for rack and $200ish for wheelset. I am in San Diego.
Any leads appreciated, and thank you in advance.
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$175 shipped; not sure of the exact model number but it is the same rack as
pictured here:
https://www.benscycle.com/p-2137-nitto-campee-rear-rack-26.aspx
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Looks like Jan got his first production prototypes for two new anticipated
tire models. Even fatter road/gravel tires in 559x54 and 584x48.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/
Now you need two new bikes to fit these tires!
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Amazing as always. Love the SA saddles. No sores from the get-go. YMMV...
Brian
On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 8:51:41 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
Brian. Incredible. How did you like the SA saddle on the trip?
-Jim W.
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Next segment up: http://stonehog.com/2015/06/09/oregon-outback-2015-day-3/
Featuring less photos (more riding), Fort Rock, Sage Hollow, Bear Creek,
Crooked Creek, and Prineville Reservoir...
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Seattle, WA
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