[RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

2015-06-26 Thread hsmitham
Doug my man is spot on. I have an '03 Atlantis same deal. I have the heat shrink tubing and yes when I work on the rear derailler and not dilligant I will find it isn't in the channel slot. Doug when I have time this fall I'm going to follow you're lead and do the same. Man I'm constanly

[RBW] RE: Off topic alert!! Feedback request.

2015-06-26 Thread hsmitham
Well it's been a while in a world with *insta*gram and it seems no one out there has any experience with these shorts. So as is often the case I'll pony up and try em out. I purchased the cigarette shorts in dark grey in the old cotton stretch fabric. Gonna take em on tour and see how they

RE: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I believe in one of his Blug posts about the Mystery Bikes (which have chainstays in the 54 cm range), GP said they had to cobble together an extra-long chain out of extra links from a second chain. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [RBW] Re: Off topic alert!! Feedback request.

2015-06-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
So between the two of us we'll have some data to share. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I sucked it up

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread Liesl
My wee 46cm Appaloosa custom has l chainstays, especially for its size, and goodness that bike can go anywhere over any terrain regardless of my skill. And comfortable as all get-out. Long time Blug readers will have already seen these, but just in case, photos can be found here:

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread Kurt Manley
I agree with Doug. V-brakes are the way to go. No matter how much time I spend on my Paul canti's they still don't stop as good as my $20 avid v-brakes that I spent all of 3 min setting up. Less clearance for fenders on the v-brakes and tighter pad to rim clearance is the drawback of v-brakes.

[RBW] Re: Off topic alert!! Feedback request.

2015-06-26 Thread Johnny Alien
I sucked it up an bought a pair in the durable cotton. I wanted the lighter pair but they had none available on the site in my size and in gray. I had to get the durable pair instead. On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 4:37:34 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Well it's been a while in a world with

[RBW] Re: FS: HAR Bags, Rock n Road tires, Brooks grips, Noodle bar, Tiagra levers, Terry Butterfly, Spin Doctor truing stand

2015-06-26 Thread john muhl
Prices reduced. $90 HAR bags (tan) $15 Shimano Tiagra brake levers https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3Vmm_jgi9LKUngxdmNYR19MTEUusp=sharing Price includes shipping Contact off-list at johnm...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread Dan
That Clementine in the photo on the blug is a really nice looking bike. All those curves and whatnot. And shiny black paint. Beaut. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread Ginz
I agree with the v-brake comments. Is there a high clearance v-brake that puts the linkage above the fork crown? Rackage and fender'age are definitely more challenging with v-brakes. I have long since given up on the CR720. The Shimano CX70 was much easier to setup. -- You received this

[RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

2015-06-26 Thread Ginz
I've made longer tubes by extracting the inner lining from brake housing or even a brake noodle. A longer tube can still shift around but hopefully not shift so far that you are sawing the metal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread Philip Kim
Have CR720 on my dirt bike, once replaced with kool stop those things stop me on a dime. I'm a fairly light ride, but I still ride on rocky and rooty more technical trails. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread Alan Pickett
Eric - Yes, squeezing hard, not bottoming out. I was thinking about switching levers. happily, it's not a pressing issue (pun was unintended, but I would still like to take credit!), but I will try your suggestion of switching the yoke as the least expensive and involved thing to fiddle with

[RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

2015-06-26 Thread dougP
Hugh: Next time we're together remind me we'll flip over my Atlantis. The ridges on the BB shell file off fairly easily. The BB does need to come out to drill tap the hole for the screw that holds the guide on. dougP On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 1:29:24 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Doug my

[RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

2015-06-26 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
My cables have been sawing away at my bottom bracket on my Atlantis since 1998. It is my 'car' and I ride it constantly. There is a shallow groove worn into the shell, but not very deep. It should be good for another couple of decades. The frustration of the cable popping out of the little

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread Jeremy Till
I have a similar set up on my Long Haul Trucker and the brakes have always felt solid, in that they do require a fair bit of hand force to really brake hard. Especially with high profile cantilevers, there is a practical limit to how much mechanical advantage you can eek from them, since you

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
I found the Tektro 720s were not ideal for country bike and trail riding. Here's a thread about my squishy brake question: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/tektro$20720/rbw-owners-bunch/2RliNn6jvvo/19wuZgLcS4kJ Here's a photo of how I set it up so it worked the best

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread dougP
Alan: BQ had a all things brake issue a few years ago. After reading that, I replaced the very nice looking but only marginally effective narrow profile stock brakes on my Atlantis with the Tektro 720s. While better, they were still unimpressive, especially with a touring load. I fiddled

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread Jeremy Till
I've certainly followed Grant's progression to longer stays with much interest. My most recent bicycle purchase was a longtail cargo bike http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-bike-that-rides-like-car.html, and the utility of it aside, I really do love the way it feels to ride.

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread Philip Kim
Makes me wanna pick up a cheviot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread William deRosset
Dear Jeremy, He's brought back the Klunker MTB geometry for his cruiser bikes! Mr. Petersen was a vocal advocate of shorter chainstays in the mid-1980's when Bridgestone popularized the NORBA mtb geometry. He brought out bikes with short-ish chainstays (42-43cm), steep seat (73-73.5deg) and

[RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

2015-06-26 Thread William deRosset
On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 7:33:38 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote: Bleriots were made with metal shifter cable guide channels that are molded into the bb shell. They are not the bolt on kind. My Bleriot was originally built up with some plastic tubing that lays onto the guide channels.

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread Alan Pickett
Thanks for all the responses - I will fiddle a bit more before plunking down any serious money since I don't have to change anything, but I really appreciate the wisdom and perspective of the group. As I understand is, the CR720s as a high profile brake will certainly have less MA, but I''m

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread William deRosset
Dear Jeremy, RE: long chainstays. He's brought back the Klunker MTB geometry! Mr. Petersen was a vocal advocate of shorter chainstays in the mid-1980's when Bridgestone popularized the NORBA mtb geometry. He brought out bikes with short-ish chainstays (42-43cm), steep seat (73-73.5deg) and

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread Edwin W
The record holder, Jay Petervary, has been crushing his record, but at the penultimate stop, he was 3 minutes behind after leading days 2-13. http://tourdivide.org/leaderboard What a race! On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 3:02:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: Both records are about to

[RBW] Standover on a 60cm Sam?

2015-06-26 Thread Eric Daume
Can anyone tell me the stand over height of a 60cm Sam, measured at the center of the top tube? Thanks, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] FS: 1 Pair or Paul Racer Brakes.

2015-06-26 Thread Clayton.sf
Sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

2015-06-26 Thread drew
i once had cables replaced on a vintage bike with this same sort of routing. the place put on cables that had been dipped in wax or plastic in that section (just 6 or 7 inches) so that it wouldnt rub so harshly. just a super thin layer of black around the cable in that area. at the time i

Re: [RBW] Standover on a 60cm Sam?

2015-06-26 Thread Jeff Lesperance
My second-hand double top-tube 60CM SH is approx. 34-5/8 inches / 88CM measured approx. center of top top tube, shod with Compass Barlow Pass tires. My PBH comes in somewhere between 90 and 91cm or approx. 35.5 so I don't have a lot of room for error in the standover department, but I never think

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Both records are about to fall.the men's in just a few hours. On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 7:58:03 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The current records for the Tour Divide: Men’s Jay Petervary 2012 – 15:16:04 Women’s Eszter Horanyi 2012 – 19:03:35 Both of them look to fall this

[RBW] My Fargo just lost 2 lb! Woolywarm!

2015-06-26 Thread Patrick Moore
I've been riding the Fargo for a couple of weeks and just today noticed that I'd been carrying around a 2 lb Kryptonite in the Pica. No wonder I've been so slow! Riv content: I've been wearing one of my new-to-me Woolywarm ss jerseys. Today the thermometer outside my door read 96F when I left;

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread cyclotourist
A sprint finish! On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the heads up - just checked the leaderboards. Dang those folks are cooking! Philip www.biketinker.com On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 1:02:03 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

RE: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread Liesl
Yes, one does need to cobble together bits from a second chain for these 54-55cm chain stays . This is the case with the custom and with Erin's cheviot and with, I assume, the Clem's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread Philip Williamson
Thanks for the heads up - just checked the leaderboards. Dang those folks are cooking! Philip www.biketinker.com On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 1:02:03 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: Both records are about to fall.the men's in just a few hours. On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 7:58:03

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread Bill Gibson
yIKES nEIL bELTCHENKO! On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: A sprint finish! On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the heads up - just checked the leaderboards. Dang those folks are cooking!

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread Mike Schiller
what ever is in those pies in Pie town I need to find this out ... soon! Josh Kato had 3 pcs and blew the doors off the JayP and Neil in the last 150 miles. ~mike On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 7:10:56 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: A sprint finish! On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:43 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread Anne Paulson
If I make it as far as Pie Town, I plan to do extensive research and tasting into what is in those pies. On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: what ever is in those pies in Pie town I need to find this out ... soon! Josh Kato had 3 pcs and blew the

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread Bill Gibson
Some day we will all make it to Pie Town. Enjoy your ride! On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: If I make it as far as Pie Town, I plan to do extensive research and tasting into what is in those pies. On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Mike Schiller

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread dougP
Is there a high clearance v-brake that puts the linkage above the fork crown? Here's a link to useful information on specific V-brake arm lengths: http://www.gravelbike.com/?p=3298 As you can see, there is quite a variation from short to long. The shorter ones can be successful with standard

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread dougP
Just read the BLUG but haven't followed this thread, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned. Another advantage to longer chainstays is clearance with panniers. There is more freedom of choice in baggage because you're not fighting for space for your heels. In addition, more of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread dougP
Probably a secret recipe. Maybe you can wheedle it out of them. dougP On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 8:48:42 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: If I make it as far as Pie Town, I plan to do extensive research and tasting into what is in those pies. On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Mike

Re: [RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

2015-06-26 Thread sameness
Or just grab it from their home page http://www.pietown.com/. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 9:26:33 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Probably a secret recipe. Maybe you can wheedle it out of them. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread Alan Pickett
So, before I ponied up for my Hillborne, I purchased a Surly Cross Check about four years ago and completely Rivendellized it, with what at the time amounted to a Riv Build Kit: Albatross bars, Sugino triple, bar-end silver shifters, Tektro CR720 wide profile cantis and the Tektro Eclipse

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

2015-06-26 Thread Matthew J
I did my longest tour (West Coast to Lake Michigan coast - basically the Adventure Cycling Northern Tier - then the Lake Michigan paths down Wisconsin into Northern Illinois) on this Trek 728 http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc484-joelmatthews0508.html. Probably not the bike one would want a

[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-06-26 Thread Ginz
Alan, The issue is that you are squeezing the lever super hard? It is not bottoming out, correct? Are you using the stock, triangular cable hanger? Try the narrower and inexpensive Dia Compe. This will have the same effect as lowering the hanger (increasing he mechanical advantage.) My

[RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

2015-06-26 Thread Tony DeFilippo
It seems fine on a number of my bikes with similar guides to go bare cable on metal bb shell. The plastic clear shell may help reduce the friction a bit and extend the life of your cable... I've got some in my garage if you want to swing down to Alexandria some time your welcome to enough for

Re: [RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

2015-06-26 Thread Patrick Moore
I seem to recall this question being raised 10 years ago or so, and Grant saying, in effect, It's not a problem, don't worry about it. I don't have any derailleur bike with formed-in guides, but I'd use them if I had them. I can't see myself how you would damage anything by running the cables

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickie Velogical Review

2015-06-26 Thread Matthew J
With Rivendell selling the SP dynamo hubs for $110, that doesn't really make a lot of sense to me from an economic standpoint. As I say in my OP, my dedicated tour bike has a SON. Certainly know and appreciate the value of a good dyno hub. The Velogical is significantly less expensive

Re: [RBW] Re: bb cable guide channel question

2015-06-26 Thread Patrick Moore
One more thing: back in the old days of clamp-on, over-the-bb cable guides, these guides were regularly chrome plated steel On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to recall this question being raised 10 years ago or so, and Grant saying, in