[RBW] surly ogre vs riv hunq?

I have a hunq. I've never ridden an ogre. I got it to be a dedicated touring bike, and it does that so well, But it really excels at so many things and is the best riding and most comfortable bike I've ever been on. I ride it on road rides regularly because it's just that much more fun to be on

[RBW] surly ogre vs riv hunq?

How tall are you? I ask because, for tall people, there's a bigger difference between Surlys and Rivs than for medium or shorter people. Surly's stack heights / head tube lengths dont grow proportionately the way Riv's do with the bigger frames. So you likely end up with a huge stack of stem

Re: [RBW] Re: Nice afternoon ride

I used to get hot spots using SPD style pedals (double sided and single sided.) A few years back I switched pedals to the Shimano A530 dual platform/spd pedals and the hot spots disappeared. While I have no scientific evidence of any kind, I wondered if perhaps the shoe sole gets more support

Re: [RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

Richard - makes sense on the clem, but is the proto hunqapillar part of the new design? would hate to hear it is becoming less of a trial bike with a lower bb and longer cs. On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 6:39:07 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote: > > In regaurd to clem jr as an option, I know many

Re: [RBW] My First Rivendell + Ride Report

Great story and bike! Love the orange and appreciate the warning about our friends in TSA. Definitely a classy 'travel bike'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

In regaurd to clem jr as an option, I know many here will disagree with this but long chainstays and a lowish bottom bracket in my experience didn't make for a great off road ride. This is based of a good bit of time spent abord a proto hunqapillar with 650bees and long cs. I would boil it down

Re: [RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

Any time you're in search of a 'last one' of anything that sets a pretty high bar! That said you picked two great bikes to compare and won't go wrong with either. How important is the Riv styling to you? I think it boils down to that, are you willing to pay for the Riv lugs, paint and

Re: [RBW] Re: Nice afternoon ride

I will certainly do that. I may eventually pay for a professional fitting, but whatever I do I'll pass the information along. But I wonder if others have had the problem and fixed it themselves. My left foot hasn't hurt so always, but it has been worse in the past month or so -- I thought at

[RBW] Re: Nice afternoon ride

"... The only fly in the ointment was the painful pressure point on my left foot. Does anyone have suggestions for (1) a fitting method to cure such ills, or (2) a shoe that is almost universally acclaimed to prevent them? My right foot is perfectly comfortable ..." I have no suggestions, but

Re: [RBW] My First Rivendell + Ride Report

Awesome story and bike! Congratulations! On Sunday, October 2, 2016, Patrick Moore wrote: > Joe: congratulations on a nice ride (in both senses of the word). The All > Rounder, I think, was an improvement on the X0-N concept. My first road > custom was based around the

Re: [RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

I threw my support behind the hunq, and as much as I hate to throw other bikes into the mix of a two bike question, i gotta ask: have you considered the clem smith jr? It seems to be the ultimate budget Rivendell all rounder, but I'd be curious to hear how clem smith owners like it on trails or

[RBW] Re: SUPERNOVA DYNO LIGHTS

I have a used E3 Pro2, with mutli mount, $60 shipped. Works fine, really want to get an Iq-X pm if interested. Scott Goldsmith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON CHEVIOT

I don't know why pictures end up rotated sideways when posted. On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 4:26:54 PM UTC-6, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado wrote: > > I am more than thrilled after the first time out on the Cheviot. > When I'm sitting on the saddle I barely can touch the balls of both my >

[RBW] FIRST RIDE ON CHEVIOT

I am more than thrilled after the first time out on the Cheviot. When I'm sitting on the saddle I barely can touch the balls of both my feet on the ground. I was concerned I'd be stretched out on this bike.But after I got going I felt really comfortable and didn't feel I was stretched out nor

[RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

Really just depends on how you ride. If you plan on doing any sort of trail riding go surly all the way. If mostly roadish then go Rivendell. I own both Rivs and Surlys. I find myself reaching for one of my surlys 9 out of 10 times. Off road i really haven't found a rivendell I prefer the ride

[RBW] Re: FS: Ibex El Fito full length bib - size Large

SOLD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] WTT/WTB Nitto Dirt Drop

That'll work. Let me know. Thanks, Frank On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 3:25:34 PM UTC-5, Elton Pope-Lance wrote: > > Frank, > > I believe I have a new/unused one at home. If I do, it's yours for $45 > shipped. Will check tonight. > > - Elton Pope-Lance > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Frank

Re: [RBW] WTT/WTB Nitto Dirt Drop

Frank, I believe I have a new/unused one at home. If I do, it's yours for $45 shipped. Will check tonight. - Elton Pope-Lance On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Frank Brose wrote: > I'm looking for a Nitto Dirt Drop 10, 26.0 clamp. I can trade for a > Technomic deluxe (I have

[RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

50'ish Chris. On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 3:03:14 PM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: > > Just curious, what is neutral trail? 60'ish? > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] WTT/WTB Nitto Dirt Drop

I'm looking for a Nitto Dirt Drop 10, 26.0 clamp. I can trade for a Technomic deluxe (I have numerous lengths) or for my Dirt Drop 8 or I'll buy it outright. Anybody? Thanks, Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

Just curious, what is neutral trail? 60'ish? On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > Is there a reason for just those 2 as choices ? There a other frame > builder who can build exactly what you want for less than the price of the > Hunq . I get a sense you do

[RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

Is there a reason for just those 2 as choices ? There a other frame builder who can build exactly what you want for less than the price of the Hunq . I get a sense you do not really know what you want though . FWIW, I own a Bombadil and a custom frame from a local builder in Ohio, and

[RBW] Re: FS: 61 cm AHH, bump with new price

Bump: $3250 I can throw in a set of VO Zeppelin 52 mm fenders, which I believe will work on this bike. I bought them for a different bike but changed direction and so don't need them. The front was partially mounted to check clearances, the rear never. Thanks! -- Bob On Saturday, September

Re: [RBW] surly ogre vs riv hunq?

I've never ridden either an Ogre or a Hunq, but that won't stop me from speaking. I've owned 5 Rivendells, and each of them, despite their great differences, had a signature "Grant designed" ride that includes supreme stability with unerring turn-in and this at least in my own experience with

Re: [RBW] My First Rivendell + Ride Report

Joe: congratulations on a nice ride (in both senses of the word). The All Rounder, I think, was an improvement on the X0-N concept. My first road custom was based around the dimensions (but not the tubing or, exactly, the geometry) of the All Rounder. What are those 38 mm tires? My I suggest one

[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell + Ride Report

I recognize that turnout. Rolled past there 6-7 years ago! Good thing you went south, going north is usually into the wind. Beautiful ride there, and great looking bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: 64cm Atlantis for sale in Los Angeles

Looks bigger than a 64, not sure the seller is measuring correctly. maybe a 66 or 68? On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 1:26:47 PM UTC-4, B Y wrote: > > Not mine: > > Spotted an Atlantis for sale on Craigslist in Los Angeles (Hawthorne). > >

[RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

I forgot to specify that I have never ridden a Hunqapillar but I want to some day and I hope the experience is such that I have to have one! On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 10:46:23 AM UTC-5, R Olson wrote: > > I'm trying to decide between a riv hunq or a surly ogre. I want this bike > to be

[RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

I would love to have a 54cm Hunqapillar but my finances are such that I ride an 18" Karate Monkey, which is almost the same bike as the ogre, just with lighter tubing and fewer braze-ons. My KM is 1st generation (KM is now on 3rd generation) but the geometry that matters is the same as 2nd

[RBW] 64cm Atlantis for sale in Los Angeles

Not mine: Spotted an Atlantis for sale on Craigslist in Los Angeles (Hawthorne). https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/5808022435.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: surly ogre vs riv hunq?

I don't have any experience with the Ogre so I can't comment there, but in general I've never been super into the way Surlys ride. I do really like those Jones bars on the complete build though. I own a hunqapillar and use it for all of those purposes and can't say enough good things about

[RBW] My First Rivendell + Ride Report

Congratulations. That is a great story and a beautiful bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Dynowheel and lights ordered :)

Sure. The Triple projects a round beam, great for riding single track, or whenever you don't have cyclists or car drivers coming towards you. The IQ-X projects a beam like an automobile's low beam, perfect for when cars and bicycles are sharing the road with you. Both are excellent headlights for

[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires, 26-inch - NEW

Good morning, Here's my last pair of 26-inch tires still available, Schwalbe Marathon Supreme. * 26-inch, aka ISO 559mm * foldable, kevlar bead * all new, never mounted * 26 x 2.0 * road & commuting tires Price per pair = $80 Price does not include shipping. Photo linked below and let me

[RBW] surly ogre vs riv hunq?

I'm trying to decide between a riv hunq or a surly ogre. I want this bike to be the last one I own and I want to be able to do everything with it - ride trails/single track, around town, get groceries, etc. Has anyone owned or ridden either of these? My impressions are as follows: Ogre:

[RBW] Re: Question about running fenders on a SimpleOne or Quickbeam

I have Berthoud fenders on my Quickbeam. I wanted to have a good-ish fenderline AND be able to easily remove the rear wheel. I run a bolt from the inside of the dropout and tighten the clamp with a wingnut. When I have to remove the rear wheel, I loosen the wingnut and pull the stays out of

[RBW] Re: Opinions on Dove Bars

The Girlfriend has Dove bars on her San Marcos. She likes the narrow width better than the albas on the converted MB-3. One disadvantage is the grip part is too short for regular size grips, brakes and top mount thumb shifters in the normal location. You might have to mount the shifters in

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Many thanks. This is very helpful. Cheers, GAJett On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 3:39:47 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: > > My AHH is running 700 X 38 Compass Barlow PAas EL tires. The fenders are > 50mm VO Snakeskin(?). They required very little modification to fit. A > little at the chain

[RBW] Contemplating a Cheviot

Just got back from getting a bike part from Howard here, and he just got in the 60cm Cheviot. Unfortunately for me, I am lusting after one now, and the thought I had was to get a one frame for my partner and I. She is 5'2, I am 5'7. According to Riv's suggestion, she'd be riding a 50, and I a

Re: [RBW] NEW 60CM CHEVIOT BUILD

I have Chevy Envy! That saddle! The dreamy blue and cream paint! I hope you are wowed by the ride and that the Long Wooler is everything you wanted. We'll be waiting... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] FS: Jones H Loop Handlebar

Bars are sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Autumn Gravel Ramble in Michigan

Hi Marc, I am in. See you Saturday. Thanks! Tom Palmer Twin Lake MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Bottle Top for 3rd Water Bottle Holder

Throwing out another example here, Strapped to the rack, I carry a 25-oz. thermos in the Randi Jo MUT bag. Or a banana. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Bottle Top for 3rd Water Bottle Holder

How about a bar bottle bag? Randi Jo. JandD bottle bag, Revelate feed bag -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Autumn Gravel Ramble in Michigan

I've heard a few "interested" but seen no commitments. Last year, we only had two firm commitments, we ended up with 5. I have reserved campsite 63 at the Deep Lake Campground in Yankee Springs (1/2 the modern trailer park was closed and the other half reserved). Don't worry about last

[RBW] Dynowheel and lights ordered :)

Congrats Jay! Can't wait to see it come together. Anyone done a side by side supernova e3 pro triple vs the iq-x? I've got a dyno wheel build for the Bombadil in the offing as well and have been considering both lights... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google