[RBW] Re: The American (aka MUSA) List

What others on the list are not really MUSA, Reid wondered? Velo orange is on there, most of their stuff is China or Taiwan. Waterford is not on the list, and their factory is down the road here in WI... Yeah, pretty useless. Can't believe much of what you read is truer every day. Dan S, WI

Re: [RBW] Re: moustache or Albastache bars on a Legolas?

Thanks, Corwin! Sent from my iPhone. > On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Corwin wrote: > > Sorry to be late to the party. I run moustache bars on a Bianchi Cross > Project (also not a Legolas). I have a Quickbeam and a Custom. Based on the > ride of these bikes and the Cross

[RBW] Appaloosa gets new bars and a hub

No worries, Edwin, it's going! I originally bought that threadless Nitto for some long forgotten mtb I had..now it sits on a V-O adapter as a stem length tester before I buy a proper quill stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Appaloosa gets new bars and a hub

Joe, The hub looks good, it is the stem that has to go! Seriously, great looking bike. Yours in Albaloosa land, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

Suggestion: preference given to long distance travelers. dougP On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 7:13:31 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Already have a PDXer thinking about checking out the event... filling up > fast! > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:04 PM, James Warren

[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

"Family friendly event and location. It's a tough ride, but one you can tailor to your own preferences. Cut it short, ride extra, skip a dirt section, bail out early... whatever works for you! Multi-surface, with close to a 50/50 split of dirt and asphalt. Dirt is (mostly) all hard-pack smooth

[RBW] Re: The American (aka MUSA) List

Such a fine list. And so misleading. Levi Strauss (denim) is on the list. Its headquarters are still in the USA, but their last domestic factory closed a few years ago. Nothing actually made in USA anymore. I wonder how many others? Reid > -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build

Amazing! That looks like the bike was designed for that bag. It looks incomplete without it. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

Already have a PDXer thinking about checking out the event... filling up fast! On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:04 PM, James Warren wrote: > > Slumber party! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:01 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > > Yeah! Hope

Re: [RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

Slumber party! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:01 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > > Yeah! Hope you can make it... and bring a friend or two! > >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Philip Williamson >> wrote: >> I hope to make it

Re: [RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

Yeah! Hope you can make it... and bring a friend or two! On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I hope to make it down this year. With a geared bike, even! > > Philip > www.biketinker.com > > -- > You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

Stay healthy! I'm hoping to not have any broken body parts this year! The FB event page just went up last night, and has 40 going and 120 interested in one day! On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:14 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via SoCal All Rounders (SCAR) wrote: > I've been

[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

I hope to make it down this year. With a geared bike, even! Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: The American (aka MUSA) List

It made me sad to see some dead people on that list. :^( Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah

Hi, We tandem on local paved bike paths and canal towpath and usually choose the level rides. Some rides we have gone up a few short steep hills. It's a light mountain tandem with wide range gearing. The lower gearing is more important because it is harder to go up a hill than down more

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I just may take you up on that offer! On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 7:56:42 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > 25" steel 135 rear 150 front titanium forked Rohloff modded Plus in > Northern VT open for test rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Holy Daniel! That sounds like the dream bike! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Daniel Jackson > wrote: > > 25" steel 135 rear 150 front titanium forked Rohloff modded Plus in Northern > VT open for test rides. > > -- > You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

25" steel 135 rear 150 front titanium forked Rohloff modded Plus in Northern VT open for test rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build

I love everything about this. The two bags go together beautifully, and the whole package works together as a great utility cycle. Fantastic! /Jeremy On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 12:04:49 PM UTC-8, Jon BALER wrote: > > Added a few new photos of my build with new bags - R.E. Load basket

[RBW] Re: The American (aka MUSA) List

Hit him up! Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > and, no PAUL, and no White Industries. Oh well... > > On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 4:11:16 PM UTC-8,

[RBW] Re: The American (aka MUSA) List

and, no PAUL, and no White Industries. Oh well... On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 4:11:16 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > It's unfortunate that neither Sackville nor Swift are on the list, as both > are undeniably MUSA. Sackville is more of a Riv brand, but Swift is a MUSA > company. >

[RBW] Re: The American (aka MUSA) List

It's unfortunate that neither Sackville nor Swift are on the list, as both are undeniably MUSA. Sackville is more of a Riv brand, but Swift is a MUSA company. On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 8:44:01 PM UTC-8, sameness wrote: > > Girl sent me this. It's a cool resource, oddly heavy on bikes

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

I really like that chainring bolt hack. That's excellent. I have a small collection of alloy chainring bolts from a weight weenie project. I never use them because they are stupidly fragile, but they weigh nothing, so I keep them. Those will do nicely in this application. Awesome! Bill

[RBW] The American (aka MUSA) List

Cool! Thanks Jeff! I love buying MUSA goods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

RE: [RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build

Rogue panda is cool, because they only require a photo of the bike with a ruler/tape measure in it. No need to send a pattern by mail. -Original Message- From: "Jeff Lesperance" Sent: ‎12/‎21/‎2016 6:53 PM To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com"

Re: [RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build

Excellent setup and great bag... I just sent an inquiry to Rogue Panda to see about getting one for my RB. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > That is VERY cool. There's a Swiss Army Bike vibe going on there. > > -- > You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: Who makes Canvas Panniers now?

Follow-up on the updated Back-a-Bike bags: The redesign is excellent! It eliminates the moisture access point at the top two attachment points and seems a bit beefier, but that may be because the other set we have has been loved for a year. I'd still prefer a non-nylon buckle on the bottom (in

Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

James, Thanks for the info and nice bike! I like that rear bag. It looks similar to the MTX Trunk Bag EX I have on my Giant OCR. I ordered the small gray Sackville SaddleSack bag for the new bike. I think that bag will do well for most of my biking but will most likely get the medium bag

[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

Couple of updates, on a rainy December day (will be plenty of green in the hills!). We've confirmed that registration is opening on January first. We're planning on accommodating up to 500 riders (there were

Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

Yes! Lucky me. Sometimes I'll put the Little Loafer front too! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > Is that a tweed Smythe Big Loafer? Excellent? > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > -- > You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

Is that a tweed Smythe Big Loafer? Excellent? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: moustache or Albastache bars on a Legolas?

Sorry to be late to the party. I run moustache bars on a Bianchi Cross Project (also not a Legolas). I have a Quickbeam and a Custom. Based on the ride of these bikes and the Cross Project, I think the Cross Project is pretty close to the Legolas. Thanks, Corwin On Wednesday, November 30,

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'd love to ride a Jones Plus, too. I'm in Baltimore. Anyone with a Plus nearby? I also get up to the NE pretty often, and I'll be in Exeter, NH for a week this June. I contacted Jeff to see if he knows if any demos are 'round these parts, but it doesn't look good based on the searches I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

One of them fits just fine on a 60 cm MAP, a 60 cm Saluki, a 60 cm Rambouillet, a 59 cm Spectrum, a 59 cm VO Randonneur and a 61.6 Kogswell P/R, so why would a 60 cm Sam Hillborne be any different? On 12/21/2016 09:32 AM, Daniel Betancourt wrote: Thomas, Did you ever get an answer to your

[RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

No worries. I called Rivendell earlier and they first corrected me and said that I'm getting the 62 inch Sam Hillborne and that the HPX-4 should fit on that bikes pump peg with no issues. Dan On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 5:25:20 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > You might get an answer

[RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

Thomas, Thanks for responding. Dan On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 5:30:42 PM UTC-5, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > > no, sorry. > > no new info. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

no, sorry. no new info. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

You might get an answer but that was 4-1/2 years ago. The kids call that necro-posting when you raise an old thread from the dead. :-) Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 2:21:31 PM UTC-8, Daniel Betancourt wrote: > > Thomas, > > Did you ever get an answer to your

[RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

Thomas, Did you ever get an answer to your question regarding the HPX-4 fitting on a 60cm Sam Hillborne? I'm waiting on a 61cm Sam Hillborne and am interested in that pump but still not sure if it will fit on the pump peg. Thanks in advance for any info. Dan On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 at

[RBW] For Sale: New R559 RECESSED Long Reach Brakeset

Brand New. No Packaging. Salmon Brakes. Recessed Version. Pictures here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskQWC5VS $60 includes CONUS shipping. Peace>>> Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Who makes Canvas Panniers now?

That sounds like a good setup. I’d most likely be using these bags on my front panniers: Tubus Tara. The Tara has a U-shaped bottom rather than a flat bar. I wonder if this would not be optimal for the attachment of the Frost River. I wonder if others have used such an attachment system with

Re: [RBW] Re: Who makes Canvas Panniers now?

Great question, John. My TourSacks were "lash on" (rather than elastic, as you describe), and my experience is lash on systems are far less "playful" on the rack over bumps for the simple reason that elastic gives, lashing does not. My main issue with the TourSacks is the load on top needing a

[RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build

That is VERY cool. There's a Swiss Army Bike vibe going on there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'm in southern Maine, near Portland. Too far from Ohio, but thanks anyway. Yeah, the front hub on the Jones 135 is unnerving. At least there's a few 150mm hub options and an increasing supply of fat bikes out there to support that standard. It's the 148 on the new bike that worries me. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Where are you located? There's a tiny chance someone has a Jones near you... you're welcome to test ride my 25" Plus model, if you're near Central Ohio. Regarding hub standards, the older QR Jones uses a 142mm through axle *front* disc spaced hub on the front fork. Good luck finding one of those

Re: [RBW] Re: Who makes Canvas Panniers now?

Deacon, I'm curious about the attachment system of the Frost River bags. They do indeed look rugged and weatherproof, with what I'd consider a good shape (wide enough, not just tall). But as for the attachment: I wonder if you have used this buckle system before? In practice, can one get a

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

The Stache to me feels much like my Krampus of days past. See above for my comparison of Krampus and Jones Plus. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'm sure it would be, if that's what effect lowering the trail has. I just don't know. There's no dealer for Jones anywhere near here, and finding one to try is not likely to happen. It's a big investment to buy one just to find out. That's why I'm posting here, to learn from Jones owners. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'm sure it would be. On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 3:37:28 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On 12/21/2016 03:34 PM, Christopher Cote wrote: > > Thanks for the response! I haven't ridden a low trail bike, so I > > really can't say how trail influences the ride. I do know exactly

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

On 12/21/2016 03:34 PM, Christopher Cote wrote: Thanks for the response! I haven't ridden a low trail bike, so I really can't say how trail influences the ride. I do know exactly what you're saying about the trail effects of fat tires, though. By the numbers, my Wednesday already has well

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Thanks for the response! I haven't ridden a low trail bike, so I really can't say how trail influences the ride. I do know exactly what you're saying about the trail effects of fat tires, though. By the numbers, my Wednesday already has well over 100mm of trail. Add the extremely low tire

[RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build

VERY VERY nice. I like it alot. On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 12:13:09 PM UTC-8, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > Frame back makes it perfect. > shoji > > > > On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 3:04:49 PM UTC-5, Jon BALER wrote: >> >> Added a few new photos of my build with new bags - R.E.

[RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

Yes, those Monkey Nuts do resemble the classic steel ones you'd see on UJBs back in the day. They are coincidentally priced at very close to my pain threshold for trying to make my own (~$25). I was not aware of that product. Thanks for the hint. I was thinking something like this: Ebay

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'm curious to find out if anybody has a ride comparison between the Jones and a Trek Stache or a Niner Ros 9+, which are bikes I have ridden. I find both those to be quite playful on the singletrack and just all around fun bikes. I'm curious how the long chainstays feel riding singletrack with

[RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build

Frame back makes it perfect. shoji On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 3:04:49 PM UTC-5, Jon BALER wrote: > > Added a few new photos of my build with new bags - R.E. Load basket bag & > Custom Rogue Panda frame bag > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/jon_baler/albums/72157674307963623 > > > >

[RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build

Added a few new photos of my build with new bags - R.E. Load basket bag & Custom Rogue Panda frame bag https://www.flickr.com/photos/jon_baler/albums/72157674307963623 On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 10:45:22 AM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > I have to say...the black crank ,fenders, etc.

[RBW] Re: Pneu bars...time for MUSA?

The new bars: https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/pneubar-pname On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:19:31 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > You and Bill are both right > > Ryan the Riv and Nitto lover...whose really *excited about those Choco > norm bars* ...but whose

[RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

Bill - when you say "dropout plugs" I assume you mean those "spacers" of yesteryear that are intended to be used with horizontal dropouts lacking axle alignment bolts. As far as I know Surly is one of the few, if not the only one, who still makes these. They call 'em Monkey Nuts and they're

[RBW] Re: FS: Saddle bags - Nigel Smythe x2, Ostrich + Carradice Bagman support

Yes, I understand why Riv stopped selling them. The mystery to me is what happened to the company; I can find no trace of them on the internet outside of their time at RBW. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Christopher, *Regarding the low trail of the Jones:* Don't let this worry you. One of the reasons he designs it this way is precisely because his bikes have always intended to use fatter tires than the rest of the industry. The low trail geometry compensates for the mysterious but very real

[RBW] Re: Snow powder and pack tires

Brutal, Les! Come summer I relate to your heat dilemma (though not often your humidity/heat dilemma). At 68˚F I'm debating clothing. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 11:49:01 AM UTC-7, Les Lammers wrote: > > > It's 68 degrees and cloudy in here in SW

[RBW] Re: Snow powder and pack tires

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 2:30:15 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > This morning's ramble was down the pass four miles on densely snowpacked > roads and nearly no traffic to get communion for my family. Racing Ralphs > gripped wonderfully, and I would have been uncomfortable with the

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

This is a timely thread for me. I've been considering a Jones Plus. I definitely want a bike that fits 29x3" tires. I was considering the Krampus, but Jeff Jones' designs and fit philosophy really meshes with my experiences. I have a Surly Wednesday fat bike that I bought to ride on the snow,

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Sam Hillborne 55ish

Handle/bike lock/bike rack guard On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Christopher Cote < christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote: > What's the deal with the wrap on the top tube? > > On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 3:40:28 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > >> Pretty standard Rivendell build. >> >> Shimano

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Sam Hillborne 55ish

What's the deal with the wrap on the top tube? On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 3:40:28 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > Pretty standard Rivendell build. > > Shimano brake levers > Tectro canti brakes. > Shimano bar end shifters > Sugino XD2 triple crankset > IRD Front derailleur > Deore rear

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Sam Hillborne 55ish

$1400 shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

I could tell you the chainring/rear cog combo on my SS PX-10but it's so wimpy I'd be too embarrassed :) ...but what I can tell you is that I love the silent drivetrain and in a windy city , it demands more out of me than access to gears. ActuallyI admit it's 36 X 20 combo 700c wheels. My

[RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

I know about the Spring Thing. I haven't tied one, but I'm 200% convinced it will rattle, and I would rather have silent fenders in the wrong position than noisy fenders with perfect lines. As much as I like showing off photos of parked bikes, I do actually ride them a little. The more

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

Brynnar, Perfect! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 10:59:28 PM UTC-7, ctifusion wrote: > > I hate to admit after all the interesting gear discussion that, being in > Indianapolis, I just run mine single speed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

Here's Bill-in-Roswell's idea in action. VO sells the pieces, but I'm sure you can come up with something equally nice or better on your own: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/fender-hardware/spring-thing.html On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 11:22:08 PM UTC-7, Bill

[RBW] Re: FS: Saddle bags - Nigel Smythe x2, Ostrich + Carradice Bagman support

I think it had to do with a combination of exchange rate making the bags price prohibitive and ability to secure a constant supply (esp. of the tweed bags). Get your NOS tan canvas bag while you can ;-) On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 7:41:13 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Whatever happened

[RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

There is even a blue lift-a-tube bike in Nashville! http://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/5921767706.html In Nashville, where there are not many Riv-ish bikes, Edwin On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 5:37:22 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > >