[RBW] Nitto campee 26vs650bvs700c

Anyone know the difference in height from dropout hole to underside of platform on the nitto campee rear. The one with removable lowriders. Or I guess if anyone has a 650b version or 26in version, could you let me know. I have a 700c and it's 35cm. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] WTB: Silver Paul Funky Monkey Cable Stop

Well, I missed the one that Michael listed recently on iBOB, so I thought I'd put it out there... Anyone have a Silver Paul Funky Monkey Cable Stop (front) that they'd like to move on?I'd prefer the 7/8" one (to clamp to quill stem), but I would consider the 1" size as well.thanks!Andrew

[RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

As with others, I definitely like discs for muddy riding or lots of stream crossings, mostly for avoiding the sandpaper effect with wet, dirty pads and the no-brainer braking consistency after the rim gets doused. Also, as with others, I've found setup to be finicky, pad wear to be meh, and

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

When I first got (back) into riding a number of years ago the sam hillborne was pretty much my dream bike. I rode several bikes, enjoyed them, saved my money and eventually got my sam. A couple of years passed and riv released the cheviot, and I acquired one. After some time on both bikes I

Re: [RBW] 58cm Atlantis for sale $1,100

Anything specific in mind? There are a bunch here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/theworldisours/albums/72157644514166933 > On Jun 21, 2017, at 7:57 PM, Forrest Meyer wrote: > > Any detailed photos of the frame available? > > -- > You received this message because

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 2:10:24 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote: > So why keep beating this poor old dead horse? I think we can all agree: > There are those who would like Rivendell to make a bike with discs. 2.Right > now, Rivendell does not make disc bikes, and has not announced

[RBW] Discs versus calipers

I'm putting this in a new thread, because I have some questions. Note: I'm not disagreeing, I'm asking because I want to know more. Clayton said, in the Rivs On Block thread: *- More margin betw. rim and brake to adjust for rub. Disc brakes usually have much tighter clearances and make it a much

Re: [RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

I see no sin in saying on this list that one would like a Rivendell with disc brakes, as long as one doesn't become tiresome about it and as long as one asserts this thought simply as one's preference. I'd like a Hunq with disc brakes. Riv eventually accepted tig welding, despite early promises

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

Someone on the list recently was talking about pricing, with respect to the fact that Riv has been in business for many years now and produced many bikes, increasing the supply and somewhat regulating resale prices. I think the same increase in supply could be a big factor in this apparent

[RBW] WTB: XL MUSA Knickers with the velcro ankle straps

Hello fine folks, I figured I'd throw this out there. I have had a pair of the MUSA Knickers with the velcro straps at the ankle for a few years. I love them, and have gotten them repaired a few times. Now they need more repairs and I'd like to see if there may be a replacement pair out there

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

It's relevant to this post if it is the reason someone sold their Riv. In my opinion it was veering beyond that. And there are lots of "general topic" bike forums. And I am not saying anyone, myself included, is being disrespectful--just agreeing with Ed that the the thread was drifting. And

[RBW] 58cm Atlantis for sale $1,100

Any detailed photos of the frame available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: eCLEM

Hi Mike, that's my CLEM that I put a rather primitive and heavy e-kit on last year. It looks like you're using a Bafang mid-drive which is much better and lighter (I have a BBS02 on a folding bike). I highly recommend swapping to a CLEM: it's a stout frame and the long wheelbase (with fat

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Adding my $0.02 I like discs for mud and for "real" MTB applications: - For mud because that is when rims get more chewed up by rim brakes, - For MTB applications because it allows me more easily to run WIDE rims with big fat tires. For Stopping in dirt situation I have generally found caliper

[RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

I sold my Appaloosa partially to cover a big bill, and partially because I mostly ride ebikes now. As Garth referenced, I feel rather strongly that Rivs should be ridden so I moved it along to a nice lady who would ride it. Will I have another Riv eventually? Probably! -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Garth wrote: > > And back to the topic at hand , I look at it as keeping the frames > circulating. Frames like being ridden , to run wild, like a horse ! > Yee-haw !!! Let 'em run, let 'em run ! > I like this idea a lot, and have been

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

And back to the topic at hand , I look at it as keeping the frames circulating. Frames like being ridden , to run wild, like a horse ! Yee-haw !!! Let 'em run, let 'em run ! The disc brake thing is relevant here since it may be a reason why some Riv's are being sold. It also just

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:04:35 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 06/21/2017 02:56 PM, Philip Kim wrote: > > Good points, I think bikers gotten along just fine with rim brakes > > before disc brakes came along. And I also think that since then, the > > options for the kinds of

[RBW] WTB: Sackville Shop sack bag

Hi all, I'm looking for a gently used Sackville shop sack in the Medium size to fit my wife's Wald basket. Please email me if you have one for sale. gscicle...@gmail.com Thanks! Gabriel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Weight

Steve, is that my old Hunq? I love how you built it up!!! My 61cm Atlantis is 33.1 lbs with bags and lights and racks. On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:29:11 PM UTC-4, Steven Sweedler wrote: > > 2000 All Rounder 63 cm. 32.2 lbs > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

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[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

FYI I think the Riv tandem can accept a rear disc brake. Dan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

Well I sold my Sam today, so that's one less riv for sale. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

Yes, indeed. I second most of the points Garth has made about discs in general and about swapping wheels. But, this whole debate over discs, and man, if Riv would only make a disc bike, I would buy it in a minute, and that's why I sold mine, or whatever--hasn't it already been well-covered?

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

Amen to that, brother about road riding in general... . *I'm just not much into riding on the road anymore...too many people out to kill you with their cars around my area which has scared me off the road. I'm not too proud to admit it* Which may be a very good reason why gravel road/offroad

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

I sold all my Rivs...had three at one time. (Roadeo, Sam Hillborne, Atlantis) What happened to me was getting heavily involved in mountain biking and I moved away from commuting by bike. I don't even bike camp anymore, so the ability to tote a bunch of stuff on my bike just isn't a selling

[RBW] Re: So many Rivs on the chopping block

Three thoughts: (a) I read your title as: "So many Rivs on the chopping block ... but none in my size." :) (b) I think summer is peak bike selling season: I get more interest when I sell in the summer, and it makes sense that folks want to play with their shiny new toys right away. (c) This

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Max, the velocity cliffhanger is exactly what you describe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Brakes dont make it more comfortable but those fat tires and wide rims, which aren't available with rim brake compatibility, sure do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

On the topic of rim availability... Has anyone tried using a "disc brake rim" that has a reasonable wall profile and thickness with rim brakes?.. (I think there are enough folks on this list that don't care too much about machined brake tracks that would be fine letting the brake pads and road

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

There was a long thread on the 650B group about the continued availability of rim brake 650B, what with the popularity of "27.5" disk-specific rims. I think the final conclusion was "not to worry, they will remain available". On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:28 PM, iamkeith

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

On 06/21/2017 02:56 PM, Philip Kim wrote: Good points, I think bikers gotten along just fine with rim brakes before disc brakes came along. And I also think that since then, the options for the kinds of terrain that can be ridden on a bike have really opened up. You can easily bike on

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Good points, I think bikers gotten along just fine with rim brakes before disc brakes came along. And I also think that since then, the options for the kinds of terrain that can be ridden on a bike have really opened up. You can easily bike on sand, snow, rock gardens pretty easily. Of course

[RBW] Re: Swift basket bag

Hi Carla, Yes, the Swift Sugarloaf Basket Bag is designed to fit Wald 137, which is the "medium Wald" sold by Riv. On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:56:24 PM UTC-4, Carla Waugh wrote: > > Will it fit in the medium Wald basket? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] WTB: 26" 1" fork

I know it's a stretch but I'm looking for a replacement fork for my 1989 Specialized Rock combo. I'm hoping someone might have an extra 26" Riv fork around with all the nice Riv mounting points for some strange reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

While I understand the surface appeal of swapping out wheels for wildly different tires, I wonder though, what about the handling with such varying sets ? For example, I ask myself.. would I want to ride my Bomba with really fat tires and road tires ? No. And would I want to

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

I haven't owned a riv in 5 years. The last one I had was a Bleriot. I really preferred the low-trail front end geometry, and Bleriot was too stout and didn't have enough tire clearance. I have 5 bikes, and might trim down to 3 or 4 one day. All of them use rim brakes and 650b wheels. 42mm

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Funny - to me, the abilty to swap wheel sizes has ALWAYS been the best selling point of disk brakes, but that might be because im primarily a mountain biker. That said, i admittedly swap less than i could, if even at all. I prefer my fat 26" front wheel to the 29er front wheel so much in

[RBW] Swift basket bag

Will it fit in the medium Wald basket? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Agree, if that's the only reason for preferring discs, it's a solution in search of a problem. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:39 PM, EasyRider wrote: > Can you describe the wheelsets/swapping you do? I have a disc bike, and with > high-quality tires in the 650b x 40-50mm range,

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Can you describe the wheelsets/swapping you do? I have a disc bike, and with high-quality tires in the 650b x 40-50mm range, I don't anticipate swapping very often, if at all. On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-4, Jeff wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Garth

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Garth wrote: ... > The disc brake mentions have me wondering aloud, what did people do before > disc brakes ? ... They didn't swap wheelsets with different diameters and wildly different width tires in a matter of seconds, or at all, with

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

I want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? Plastics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Good points, Garth. One of our heroes (some of us here anyway), Jobst Brandt, likely pedaled hundred and hundreds of miles on gravel wearing tubulars and Campy modulators rather than brakes...as did thousands of hardy TdF riders BITD. But trends do gain momentum, I suppose. It seems to me

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Thanks for that bit of Riv history. On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:50:21 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: > > > When Riv started, 26" for All Rounder was THE way to go. It was almost the > only way to get good tires with 2" width. So like with the 26" Bridgestone > XO's, I always

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

It seems most people who are selling one have multiple Riv and/or other bikes. I find 2 bikes to be about right, I can after all only ride one bike no matter how many I could possibly own. The disc brake mentions have me wondering aloud, what did people do before disc brakes ? Of course we

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Ditto to all of that. If I streamlined to one bike, this would be it.-Original Message- From: Deacon Patrick Sent: Jun 21, 2017 8:59 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block I ride my Hunqapillar

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

I ride my Hunqapillar in all weather and conditions and on steep mountain trails, including bikepacking. I have disk brakes that also happen to be rim breaks. I stop and slow just fine. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:06:43 AM UTC-6, Addison wrote: > > I adore my Riv

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

When Riv started, 26" for All Rounder was THE way to go. It was almost the only way to get good tires with 2" width. So like with the 26" Bridgestone XO's, I always considered the supreme All-Rounders as synonymous with 26" wheels. When Riv started getting more bikes built in the later 90's, they

[RBW] Swift basket bag

Agree also! Well made and very nice people in Seattle. Highly recommend. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS: 68 cm Quickbeam $1275

If you are having back problems, I highly recommend checking out recumbents. It could be a life changing event for the positive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

My Toyo Atlantis weight is 30.1 lbs., with no tools or bottles, but with a rear Nitto rack, front Nitto M-12 rack, half frame bag, top tube bag and kickstand. No fenders. Build: Sram XX1 single ring gruppo including crankset Paul V-brakes Son front hub with beefed up, 'armored' Luxo-U light

[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

Lon Haldeman (ultra cycling legend, who, quite likely, has ridden more miles on leather saddles than possibly any other human), in his blog in 2011, wrote about how to break in a Brooks using the hot water method. He claims to have broken in over 300 Brooks saddles this way for riders on his

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Love the Allrounder! What size frame? Are the wheels 26"? I don't know if I've ever read that all the Riv Allrounders were 26" but I've assumed they were. On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 9:06:43 AM UTC-5, Addison wrote: > > I adore my Riv Allrounder and all of things I can do with it.

Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS: 68 cm Quickbeam $1275

That's a sweet bike Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2017, at 9:46 AM, a spens > wrote: Forgot to mention, the seat belongs to Ryan and is not included. Thanks, Al On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 6:29:57 AM UTC-4, a spens wrote: Hi

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

My Toyo Atlantis weighs 30.1 lbs, with a half frame bag, top tube bag, rear Nitto medium rack, small Nitto rack up front and a suspension seat post with a Selle Anatomica leather saddle. No tools or bottles. My son gave me a Sram XX1 single ring drive train which help shed some weight. I also

[RBW] Swift basket bag

Agree. Mine is my most used bag -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Selling a Sam (and eventually a hunq), but have an order in for a 650b Atlantis. More of a minimalizing my life decision. Trying to get down to one bike and be satisfied. If I had tons of space, and a slightly better income, I'd have one of each riv model. I still think I'm gonna eventually

[RBW] Re: FS: Hunqapillar 48cm (76-83 PBH)

That is a very classy bike! On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:22:46 AM UTC-5, dstein wrote: > > Pictures: > > https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0o52plgjcWPDM > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Aging and Exercise

Given the interest in cycling and aging amongst this group I thought this story/study might be of interest: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/well/move/the-best-exercise-for-aging-muscles.html?mc=aud_dev=keywee=dommob_0=367955_4=1372898_1=605799=http://m.facebook.com Best, Addison Wilhite,

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

I adore my Riv Allrounder and all of things I can do with it. And Riv continues to make gorgeous bikes of course. But I think the lack of disc brakes hurts them as far as being a practical option, at least in this area Sierras/Reno with our rocky trails. I've done years of "underbiking" but at

[RBW] Re: FS: 68 cm Quickbeam $1275

Forgot to mention, the seat belongs to Ryan and is not included. Thanks, Al On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 6:29:57 AM UTC-4, a spens wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > I am putting up by much beloved Quickbeam fixie (purchased from one of my > favorite people on this forum, Ryan H., whom many of you

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

I still have two Rivs in my stable–I recently sold a bike that was more or less a duplicate of another that I ride more often. I’ve also started tending toward riding my Alex Singers more often, particularly now that I have one with a little more beausage. As Grant would likely predict, having

[RBW] Swift basket bag

I love mine! Well made, perfect match for the Wald 137, easy on and off, can add a shoulder strap, nicely designed pockets, made in Seattle by some nice people. I highly recommend it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Swift basket bag

Thoughts? I'm thinking about getting one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

I've kept one Riv in the bike stable (my Rosco v2), but my recent sale of my Hillborne was in favor of a similar style of bike, but one that takes disc brakes, an All-City Space Horse Disc. Previously, when I wanted to add a rougher-stuff bike to my bike stable, oversize tires and, again, disc

[RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

No replacement for me. Mine was to near future stuff in my life not bike-related -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

Why so many great Rivs for sale on the list recently? What are folks moving to this riding season and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] FS: 68 cm Quickbeam $1275

Hi Folks, I am putting up by much beloved Quickbeam fixie (purchased from one of my favorite people on this forum, Ryan H., whom many of you know). My favorite riding Rivendell but selling due to some unfortunate back issues. Suited for tall riders ~ 6'3"-6'7". In great shape. The hub is a

[RBW] PSA: 58cm Orange Quickbeam FS in San Diego

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/6177112686.html I don't think this was posted yet, apologies if it was. Looks like a good bike with a couple of extra shiny bits on it. Ahern bars, Paul Comp brakes. Worn paint, ugly seat post, questionable sticker on top tube (what's he hiding in