[RBW] Re: Campagnolo on a Sam/Homer?

2017-11-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
Hope is another one, but it is not <$100 as required. Miche makes a ton of Campy compatible stuff, but I don't think ever made a 135mm rear hub. Wheels Manufacturing makes cassette cog spacers designed to re-space your Shimano/SRAM cassette on your cheap Shimano hub into Campy spacing. Bill

[RBW] Re: Campagnolo on a Sam/Homer?

2017-11-13 Thread Adam Kilgas
I'd put the White Industries hub up there in the "pricey" category as well... The VO is better, but I suppose what I'm looking for is something in the $100 range... You can find good quality Shimano/SRAM stuff all day in that price range, but Campy is a whole 'nother level, it seems. -- You

[RBW] Re: What if the answer is knobbies on the QB?

2017-11-13 Thread Max S
Following this with curiosity, as snow begins to show up once or twice a week in the forecast!! Also curious to know what the width and height of the knobbed tire will be – either the 700c and the 650b version of the knobby from Compass – and how far out the knobs stick out on different rims.

[RBW] Re: Campagnolo on a Sam/Homer?

2017-11-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
Velo-Orange Gran Cru White Industries MI5 Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 8:28:57 PM UTC-8, Adam Kilgas wrote: > > So without going too spendy (Phil/Chris King, etc), I was wondering what > the options for running a Campy drivetrain on a 135mm rear spacing are? >

[RBW] Campagnolo on a Sam/Homer?

2017-11-13 Thread Adam Kilgas
So without going too spendy (Phil/Chris King, etc), I was wondering what the options for running a Campy drivetrain on a 135mm rear spacing are? I've heard tell that Bitex offers their RAR12 with a 135mm axle and Campy freewheel, but haven't been able to find it anywhere... Anyone know of any

Re: [RBW] Getting Groceries - Someone has to, might as well enjoy it.

2017-11-13 Thread J Imler
Hey Deacon Patrick, Awesome errand rides! What is the saw in the Errandonnee 2017 post? I'm looking for a nice camp saw. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Belopsky
Grant wrote about this back on 10/23, it was re-posted earlier in this thread. These are the Blue Lug single-speed frames. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Belopsky
I dont know if they are the prettiest..the second photo looks nice. What are they? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
And, they're the prettiest cranks ever made, IMO. But surely, you don't think I was entirely serious? On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Why not? > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Belopsky > wrote: > >> Really? Why >> >>

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Why not? On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Belopsky wrote: > Really? Why > > On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 8:25:32 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> One of these, for sure: >> >> [image: Inline image 1] >> >> [image: Inline image 2] >> >> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Belopsky
Really? Why On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 8:25:32 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > One of these, for sure: > > [image: Inline image 1] > > [image: Inline image 2] > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Belopsky > wrote: > >> What are your all thoughts on a crankset? My

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread tc
No - I've seen no details. Just to get the conversation going I made a huge assumption that cost would be that of the blue lug single. That may be wildly off. On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote: > > Are we sure that the single speed is the blue lug single

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread tc
LOL - yes, wouldn't the guys a Riv love to have me run the front office...$2,915 it is. On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > You gave yourself a $1000 discount > > $1400 + $1515 = $2915 > > you said it is $1915 > > > > On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 11:41:25

Re: [RBW] Getting Groceries - Someone has to, might as well enjoy it.

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, shucks, 'tweren't nothin. (Shuffle shuffle.) No, it's no big deal, and I certainly enjoy riding my Riv even with a tail wagging load. I never did use my Sam, owned for a year or so, for grocery shopping ... On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:58 PM, R Shannon wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Getting Groceries - Someone has to, might as well enjoy it.

2017-11-13 Thread R Shannon
Patrick: Thanks very much; those are wonderful stories. I feel like a wuss carrying only 15-20 lbs. of groceries on my SamH, LOL! My grocery rides are about the same as yours too. Keep it upright! Best regards, Richard On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Patrick Moore

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Belopsky
What are your all thoughts on a crankset? My last bike had a 144mm BCD crankset, which made finding chainrings a bit hard but also a bit expensive. Sugino XD or similar? I had a TA Pro 5 Vis crankset but i stripped the threads on it so that's out.. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Winter tires - studded

2017-11-13 Thread Belopsky
A quick update: Schwalbe spiker fit the clem, but not with fenders (could work but a little tight at the crown - did not check the rear at all because I want to use fenders). Nokian does make a 54mm tire hmm... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Belopsky
yep On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote: > > Are we sure that the single speed is the blue lug single speed? > > Clayton Scott > SF, CA > > On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 3:11:01 PM UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote: >> >> I really liked the math. It reminds me of my own

[RBW] Re: FS: 2015 Hunqapillar F/F/HS 62cm

2017-11-13 Thread CoalTrain
What’s your PBH and height? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Belopsky
I want to know a rivvy build kit kit. what would be the go-to hubs/wheels? Track standard from velocity? http://www.velocityusa.com/product/wheels/track/track-wheelset These could be good

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
And Deacon: Please give us your initial and subsequent impressions of riding fixed, especially fixed off road, in deep and excruciating detail. As I said, I briefly tried fixed 60" gear off road, and hated downhills. Uphills were fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > Glad to hear you've got a hub on the way. > > Now moot points: > If you ever do need to run a fixed cog without a lockring, I recommend the > Rotafix method of installation and removal. It's worked for me

[RBW] Re: Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Philip Williamson
Glad to hear you've got a hub on the way. Now moot points: If you ever do need to run a fixed cog without a lockring, I recommend the Rotafix method of installation and removal. It's worked for me for many years, both offroad and on. I traded a wheel away, and the shop broke a chainwhip

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Philip Williamson
As others mentioned, you lost $1000 in your addition, and chose the spendiest parts possible (except for brake cables). A "statement" bike like that is automatically going to be overvalued, because you're buying prestige. My Quickbeam is worth about $1500 to the right person, with the

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Clayton.sf
Are we sure that the single speed is the blue lug single speed? Clayton Scott SF, CA On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 3:11:01 PM UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote: > > I really liked the math. It reminds me of my own cost estimates. > > Sky in new west > > On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Belopsky

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Sky Coulter
I really liked the math. It reminds me of my own cost estimates. Sky in new west > On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Belopsky wrote: > > There are some really spendy parts on that list there and you are missing > other items.. > freewheel? Dingle cog (if WI) will be $$$

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Belopsky
There are some really spendy parts on that list there and you are missing other items.. freewheel? Dingle cog (if WI) will be $$$ The stem I'd get would cost me $50, the seatpost I'd get would cost me $50, the bars would cost me $50. Some of these parts I'd find used so chances are it'd be even

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Ryan Fleming
you might wanna recheck your math ;) On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 1:41:25 PM UTC-6, tc wrote: > > Singlespeeders, is your single worth $2,000 to you? > > Assuming whatever the 'classic single' is to be, the frame with headset > and seatpost are included. Toying around with what a parts list

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
You gave yourself a $1000 discount $1400 + $1515 = $2915 you said it is $1915 On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 11:41:25 AM UTC-8, tc wrote: > > Singlespeeders, is your single worth $2,000 to you? > > Assuming whatever the 'classic single' is to be, the frame with headset > and seatpost are

Re: [RBW] Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Clayton.sf
Just an FYI, make sure to check thread pitch requirements when pairing cog and lockring with your hub. Also, different cogs have different thread widths that can affect lockring engagement. In most cases you will be just fine, but double-checking just in-case is advisable. Best, Clayton Scott

Re: [RBW] Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
I LOVE this group! A generious list member is sending a fixed/ss flip flop hub to my local wheel builder. So I’ll be testing true and proper fixed gear riding! Sweet! Anyone have a 17/21 dingle cog and lock ring needing abuse? Grin. With abadnon, Patrick -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Daniel M
Right-hand threading is right-hand threading no matter which way you orient it. That's why the "right-hand rule" work for tightening/loosening regardless of which way the bolt is facing and which way you want it to go, as does the left-hand rule for left-side pedals and right-side bottom

[RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

2017-11-13 Thread tc
Singlespeeders, is your single worth $2,000 to you? Assuming whatever the 'classic single' is to be, the frame with headset and seatpost are included. Toying around with what a parts list would be, and cost, assuming buying all new. Here's what I came up with doing a very quick survey of

[RBW] Re: Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Jim M.
I did that on the hub of my QB with blue Loctite and a bottom bracket lockring. Works fine without backpedaling, but it didn't take much pressure to make it loosen. For mountain fixed riding, I'd really recommend a true fixed gear hub. I found it very difficult to ride down steep dirt without

Re: [RBW] Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Does a reversed lock ring = a make shift RHT lock ring? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
If you're not going to be putting a lot of backpressure on the cog you can get by without a lockring; I've ridden thousands of miles with fixed cogs screwed to old fw hubs. Some people say a makeshift rht lockring helps; perhaps it does, I don't know. For *real* cog security, smear the threads

[RBW] Advice for Poser Fixed on Flip Flop of ss/ss hub

2017-11-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
For winter and the increased feel of the ground conditions I want to try out fixed on my Quickbeam. I know the gear ratios work with Surly’s 17t/21t Dingle Cog (my Dos Eno is 16t/17t. The dingle cog would allow me to have a higher return gear without having to flip-flop the wheel (not fun in

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar

2017-11-13 Thread Doug H.
The Standover column is blank for the Clem H. Does anyone know that measurement for the 52 cm H? On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 1:15:55 PM UTC-5, Doug H. wrote: > > Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: WTB: 55-56cm Riv

2017-11-13 Thread REC
Just curious. What is the standover height on that? Thanks. On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 11:55:41 AM UTC-5, Christopher Wiggins wrote: > I've got a 55 Orange Sam. Should I just ship it to you ;) > >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne in Autumn Orange

2017-11-13 Thread Carla Waugh
I can see it today. Great pics and a nice Sam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar

2017-11-13 Thread Doug H.
Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar

2017-11-13 Thread MountNormal
Sir...this might help. https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar

2017-11-13 Thread Doug H.
Is the geometry for the 52 H Clem posted somewhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Getting Groceries - Someone has to, might as well enjoy it.

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Rich: I may well be far more tolerant of instability than many; also, my grocery journeys tend to be short -- under 10 miles 1 way with detours, and usually about 6-7 -- so I don't have to suffer instability for hours. I've carried up to 40 lb on it, in the rear only -- 45 max between front and

[RBW] Re: FS 51 Joe Appaloosa silver

2017-11-13 Thread Andrew Huston
More pics https://flic.kr/p/21pR2uE https://flic.kr/p/21uJ3JT https://flic.kr/p/21uHYt8 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: WTB: 55-56cm Riv

2017-11-13 Thread Christopher Wiggins
I've got a 55 Orange Sam. Should I just ship it to you ;) On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 10:14:50 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > Have too many? Let me know. Price? Cheap ;) > > Wife won't let me buy another bike but I totally will if you have > something laying around.. > > Winter's coming,

[RBW] Re: WTB Cheviot 60cm or Clem L 59cm

2017-11-13 Thread Christopher Wiggins
Dan, We have a Silver (Grilver) Clem L in 59. Thanks! Chris Wiggins A1 Cyclery Indianapolis IN On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-5, Dan wrote: > > Looking for a trusty step through bike and figured I would see if there > are any on here that need new homes. Built bikes would be

Re: [RBW] Getting Groceries - Someone has to, might as well enjoy it.

2017-11-13 Thread RichS
Patrick, what is the most weight you’ve loaded on your good looking Curt and still felt the bike to be stable? Thanks very much, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: What if the answer is knobbies on the QB?

2017-11-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Exactly the alure of fixed for me, Philip. I am toying with a non-locked down fixed cog on the flip flop side of my ss hub, which is a 22. For snow rides, a 32/22 gear sounds good for the climb up the pass, then flip flop to the ss side for the ride home, or just take is slow on the way home if

[RBW] Forest for the Trees

2017-11-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
In which I get a rather uncomfortable look in the mirror... grin. https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/missing-the-forest-for-the-trees With abandon, Patrick www.CredoFamily.org www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Getting Groceries - Someone has to, might as well enjoy it.

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
To pad the frame or fork at the appropriate place when locking the bike to a rack, to prevent scratching. But it fell off, and I forgot all about it. (I often just wheel my bike into the store, anyway.) On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:19 AM, ascpgh wrote: > Patrick, what's the pipe

Re: [RBW] Getting Groceries - Someone has to, might as well enjoy it.

2017-11-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
I’ll play. I agree a trailer is a wonderful thing, and I may start using it more as I have more purposeful rides up the pass to the grocery (five miles with around a thousand feet of climbing) as I test using my Quickbeam as more my daily ride bike. Here’s what I’ve done semi-recently...

[RBW] Re: FS - Please help me empty the bike closet

2017-11-13 Thread Ryan Fleming
That is too bad. These are terrific brake levers at a great price. If I hadn't bought them I probably would have ditched my drop bars long ago On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 11:28:00 PM UTC-6, Doug Bloch wrote: > > Argh! Why did the TRPs show up right after I emptied my PayPal to buy a >

Re: [RBW] Re: New bag design by DirtDance.

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, I just realized you made it yourself -- PDG! On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > That's an interesting bag. What do you think is the reasonable weight > limit for a trunk bag like that? > > And I'm curious why you chose the trunk bag instead of

Re: [RBW] Re: New bag design by DirtDance.

2017-11-13 Thread Patrick Moore
That's an interesting bag. What do you think is the reasonable weight limit for a trunk bag like that? And I'm curious why you chose the trunk bag instead of panniers? On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 10:36 PM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > After my first

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar

2017-11-13 Thread Mike Packard
I found the Clem to feel more cruiser-y than the 90s MTBs. It is a fantastic off road and all rounder, but it's harder to jook the whole bike around. Handlebar choice makes a big difference too; I found the Boscos weren't my favorite for trail riding. That said, it's super tough and very

[RBW] Re: New bag design by DirtDance.

2017-11-13 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks Drew... The perfect bike bag is elusive. I appreciate the support. Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne in Autumn Orange

2017-11-13 Thread Wally Estrella
Very nice! I love the one w/ Sam lying atop the leaves. I try to get something like that each fall w/ my orange Quickbeam. On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 1:50:23 AM UTC-5, RJ March wrote: > > A few quick pics from a recent ride in Lincoln Park, Seattle. This Sam's > craftsman orange is

Re: [RBW] Getting Groceries - Someone has to, might as well enjoy it.

2017-11-13 Thread ascpgh
Patrick, what's the pipe insulation (?) around the bottom of the seat tube do? Andy Cheatham PIttsburgh On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 9:45:33 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > The '03 Curt has undergone changes since this photo was taken more than 3 > years ago, but it still carries grocery

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar

2017-11-13 Thread Marc Irwin
Mine came from the intitial run out of Waterford and Grant said the tubing was Kaisai 8630. Perhaps he has changed since then but I thought I should clarify that. Marc On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 10:55:02 PM UTC-5, MountNormal wrote: > > FWIW, Hunqapillars are built by Waterford with

[RBW] FS - Please help me empty the bike closet

2017-11-13 Thread Tom M
How much are the pedals? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] WTB Cheviot 60cm or Clem L 59cm

2017-11-13 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
We have a 60cm Betty Foy if that floats your boat...it's not complete but we can build it to your liking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to