Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Ooh, a singlespeed (the other SS) mixte. My mixte (Cheviot) is going to be a Will-style 2-speed, so of course non-deacon Patrick is going to one up me with a fixie. Balderdash! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread drew
I agree that grip kings are really not grippy at all. I second those wellgo magnesiums. They're cheap and you can get them in silver and they are as grippy as the vp's -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Grant Petersen
Note to non-deacon Patrick: Your size is a mixte! On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > *That's *what I had in mind. Thanks. > > Non-diaconal-Patrick, who damn' well won't buy a 59, in ABQ, NM. > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Grant Petersen

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
*That's *what I had in mind. Thanks. Non-diaconal-Patrick, who damn' well won't buy a 59, in ABQ, NM. On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Grant Petersen wrote: > Note to non-deacon Patrick about the singlespeeder: > Name: Frank Jones Sr. > Not for: 26-inch wheels! ha. >

Re: [RBW] "Winter" clothing help

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Back when I was commuting 20-35 miles per day, I recall wearing a thickish Swobo winter jersey under a mid-weight nylon cycling windbreaker, just the 2 layers down to below 40*F, with gloves, hat, etc, of course. I'd start sweating within a few miles, and by the time I got to work, the back of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Eric Norris
Yeah, the levers with the ratchets inside. Did I get the name wrong? –Eric N > On Dec 6, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Adam Kilgas wrote: > > From the drawing, the Frank Jones SR reminds me of a single-speed Sam > Hillborne with a 28.6 downtube... In fact, isn't that the

Re: [RBW] "Winter" clothing help

2017-12-06 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
Tim, interesting point. I also sweat buckets, but there is a temp point for me where the efficiency of synthetics at moving moisture causes "chill off", i.e. cooling too fast. Thus merino for next to skin in winter. When mountain hiking in cold, I also use that same method of synthetic next to

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Oops. Continued: ...with overstuffing and get away with it. I've had a jacket, shirt, gloves, mini pump and patch kit in there. You can email at joeremi62 (at) gmail dot com if you'd like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have both. I've drifted from the Grip Kings mainly because I felt in damp conditions they were not so grippy. I also grew to not love the look. The RMX are closer to a "regular looking" (whatever the heck that is these days) pedal. I bought two pair from Riv for my tandem. They are just

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
If you mean folded slacks and a t-shirt, it definitely will. One of the nifty things about the 'soft sides' design of these bags is you can get a little crazy with overstuff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
Would that hold a change of clothes for a commuter Joe? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
Mr. Deacon, do you prefer the Grip Kings? Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a Large TrunkSack for a rear rack. $90 shipped, out-of-stock (fabulous) color for a bag they're closing out. Get em while they're hot! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Adam Kilgas
>From the drawing, the Frank Jones SR reminds me of a single-speed Sam >Hillborne with a 28.6 downtube... In fact, isn't that the same top tube as on >a Sam? ...I like it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
Laing, that is interesting. I can see that from the shape of the Grip King. In theory they simulate foot shape but the narrow middle seems like it could be problematic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Laing, You may have tried this with the Grip Kings, but if not, perhaps worth a shot? Lower your saddle by a half inch and shift yoru feet forward on the pedals. See how that feels, especially with higher torque, slower cadance climbs. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread lconley
I have both. I prefer the RMX because it is wider in the center of the pedal. I have wide feet and the Grip King is narrowest in the center of the pedal where I want it to be wide. Laing On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 8:40:54 PM UTC-5, Doug H. wrote: > I’m looking to complete my soon to be

[RBW] Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread Irreguleur
I’ve got Grip Kings and Wellgo. Grips Kings are on my everyday bike and favorite. Super smooth - never serviced. Always fabulous in any foot covering. I second the Wellgo option if GK is out of reach or too weird looking for you. They don’t get equal ride time so my longevity experience isn’t

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
Joe what size is the Sackville saddle sack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Doug: Here's some pics of stuff..I haven't cooked up prices yet. A (non-grid) grey Sackville TrunkSack, Ortlieb Shopper (one side only), Carradice Cadet saddlebag. The slightly odd-shaped and colorful panniers are Arkels designed to sit low on a recumbent, but work well on a longish Clem-like

[RBW] Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
Those look good Max. Where are they made? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread Max S
I installed these Wellgo MG 1 on my commuter and have been extremely happy with them: https://www.amazon.com/Wellgo-Magnesium-Sealed-Platform-Pedal/dp/B00GDF87GU Real bearings, light weight, and reflectors (that can be removed if desired). Grip much much better than the MKS Sneaker pedals,

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
I’m looking for panniers or a trunk bag. Whatcha got? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Pedal Choices

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
I’m looking to complete my soon to be arriving Clem Smith H bicycle. I’d like to ask for opinions on the MKS RMX Sneaker pedals and the MKS Grip King pedals. Have any of you tried either or both? Any thoughts welcome. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Best Rack for a large saddlesack on a large frame?

2017-12-06 Thread John Hawrylak
Scott Can you provide a pic of the seat stay mod you use?? I have 3 of these from the 70's, models R and S I believe John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 7:22:26 PM UTC-5, scott wrote: > My wife and I are bringing back the older Riv notion of putting a cheap >

[RBW] Best Rack for a large saddlesack on a large frame?

2017-12-06 Thread scott
My wife and I are bringing back the older Riv notion of putting a cheap Pletscher mousetrap rack on nice bikes. I find them for a buck at garage sales or flea markets. I replace the mounting hardware for the seat stays with leftover Nitto P clamps. Works great! -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Eric: Suntour Microshift? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Eric Norris
Campagnolo did something similar with the first version of their indexed shifting. It was a disaster. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to stock all of those small parts—hard enough to get shops to sell friction levers! Another idea—also probably not viable—would be for Grant/Someone to buy up all

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
One last remark on this: Proof of this: Milton Friedman is taken seriously. *"There is one and only one social responsibility of business – to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so long as it stays within the rules of the game, which is to say, engages in

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread dougP
There are many wonderful things about this forum. I've met some fascinating characters & learned all kinds of stuff I would never encounter elsewhere. Just today, I learned about barrel diameters of shifters, for instance. I really enjoy the occasional posts from Grant about Rivendell. He

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
"...where they provide value ..." Yes, but: What these terms and others of the ilk mean in the context of the resumes I write is: make everything as cheap as possible in order to give the C-levels bigger bonuses; and I'm serious. Big companies make things in order to get money, not to make a good

[RBW] Shimano 600 EX Freewheels need a home(s)

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Huddleston
For your consideration: pre-owned Shimano 600 EX: MF 6208 6 SPD. SIS compatible.Uniglide gears.Sealed Mechanism.Wt. 13.6 oz/386g. Steel w/silver finish.Chain:1/2 x/3/32.BC 1/37x24tpi threading.Freshly lubed with Lucas #2 Red Tacky and Phil Tenacious Oil.Cogs loosely assembled on FW body. They

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Garth
You mean like the original Sun Tour Thumbshifters have a larger diameter internal ratchet mechanism ? On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:07:01 PM UTC-5, LBleriot wrote: > > the* groove diameter a little larger*! > > > > On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:51:01 PM UTC-5, Grant @

Re: [RBW] "Winter" clothing help

2017-12-06 Thread Will
Been there with the wool and polarfleece stuff. I think Wiggy's has a better solution. His Lamilite stuff is great: very light in weight, comfortable thru a wide temp range, and easily machine washable... which wool is not (easily washed and dried). His Kodiac mittens are wonderful for cold

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:07 PM, LBleriot wrote: > ... then takes some of the profit and "improves" the beautiful Silver > shifters by making the groove diameter a little larger! > I wonder if this would work if, instead of having a one piece handle and cylinder/groove, the

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Jim Bronson
I like all those things like "resource optimization" and "cost efficiencies" where they provide value to actual human beings, but I still ride Rivendells because the experience behind the handlebars is a sublime one. I've had go-fast bikes but I keep coming back to my Rivendells because they are

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread LBleriot
As a devout sub-10 speed DT friction shifter retro grouch, I hope Rivendell sells a ton of these thumb shifters and prospers, then takes some of the profit and "improves" the beautiful Silver shifters by making the groove diameter a little larger! Now, I gotta go and buy up all the existing

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
I returned to biking as a young adult and could not understand why I didn't like it as much. I had a "high-end" road bike and the kit (lycra with pads in all the right places). I dreaded the long rides but was happy I made it when it was over. Then I read "Just Ride" by Grant and the light came

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
... Patrick Moore, who belatedly realized that "SS" means "Silver Shifter" and not "Single Speed". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjYoNL4g5Vg On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Grant said: "The SS project started out a dumb lark in the early 2000s, >

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Grant said: "The SS project started out a dumb lark in the early 2000s, and has been tremendously successful. Not financially, but from the point of view that lots of riders have been given the chance to learn friction shifting, and if no SILVER, no chance. That's not important in the big picture,

Re: [RBW] Re: Front rack ID on this Atlantis?

2017-12-06 Thread Bin Chen
Wow super helpful! I just ordered a set of the full size swift rolltop panniers, I hope they fit! If I can track down a rack for sale I might just take you up on the offer to check it out, thank you! What did you replace it with? On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:54:59 AM UTC-8, nathaniel

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
Sentence 3 should be "..we CAN'T afford to do everything." On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:37:12 AM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > All is well here with the SS2 thing. We're not oblivious to double-digit > speed cassettes and the 1xwhatevers, and aren't even dismissive of them. We >

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
All is well here with the SS2 thing. We're not oblivious to double-digit speed cassettes and the 1xwhatevers, and aren't even dismissive of them. We can afford to address everything and we can't afford to do most of what we do that makes us good or special. Nothing we do makes sense

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Sold with the quickness! I'm doing a moving sale, so if anybody is looking for bags or parts hit me up. I have a lot of both, but haven't categorized it all yet. Road levers, derailers, various things and whatnot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread iamkeith
Damn. Gotta be fast around here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] FS: 2 pair MUSA pants L

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Shea
The MUSA pants have been sold! > Cheers, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Bullmoose Bar, $125

2017-12-06 Thread allenmichael
this is still available. I've gotten offers for $100 but think the bar is worth more than that. For $100, I would just hold on to it for a future project. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bunik
Joe I want it! Joe On 12/6/17, Joe Bernard wrote: > Riv Nigel Smythe version from about 10 years ago. $50 shipped or make offer > if that seems steep, I have no memory of what I paid for it a couple years > ago. I never seem to use it so it's your turn. > >

[RBW] FS: Banana Bag

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Riv Nigel Smythe version from about 10 years ago. $50 shipped or make offer if that seems steep, I have no memory of what I paid for it a couple years ago. I never seem to use it so it's your turn. https://photos.app.goo.gl/W6YBKv4PVzkU0w743 Joe Bernard Novato CA. -- You received this

[RBW] Re: WTT/FS: My 12cm/25.4mm Tallux Stem for your 13cm/25.4mm Tallux Stem.

2017-12-06 Thread David B
No trades or offer so far, so offering the 12cm, 25.4mm Tallux stem for $60 shipped. Reply offlist if interested. Thanks, David On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 12:04:02 PM UTC-6, David B wrote: > > Looking for a straight swap of a Nitto Tallux stem, or sell mine to order > one from Riv. >

Re: [RBW] FS: 2 pair MUSA pants L

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
Patrick, I sent the payment via PayPal. Thanks! Doug On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Patrick Shea wrote: > Hi Doug: > > If you still want a pair, you can the funds via PayPal at this address. > I’ll mail’em out asap. > > Cheers, > Patrick > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:47 PM

Re: [RBW] "Winter" clothing help

2017-12-06 Thread Tim Gavin
I ride all winter here in Cedar Rapids, IA, and I agree with most of the others' suggestions. However, I've found that I sweat too much to use merino wool as a base layer; it eventually ends up clammy and cold against my skin. I've found that a wicking synthetic base layer (like