On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:47, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Curious: how and where is that 50 cc scooter an advantage over a nice bike?
> Seriously, because I have thought of a scooter for some time.
I'll answer on list, just in case anybody read Patrick's inquiry and
is burning with curiosity, but plea
One more post on this subject and I will shut up and crawl back into my
dark, dank hole: today's BSNYC has the ultimate, uber post on
nonplussedness.
(Sorry, Anne.)
Patrick "working on his second bong" Moore, who is actually a conservative
Christian working on his second bong. (Jest kiddin') ('Bo
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:09 AM, james black wrote:
> .
>
> I salute you, sir. I only wish you could have seen me ride to work
> this morning on my 49cc Honda Ruckus scooter wearing a white full-face
> helmet and a Blaklader model 8739 workwear jacket.
>
> James Black
>
I can cap that: the dude
I should add that by "objectively funny" he sees true disjunctions or
incompatibilities, which is the essence of humor -- as Aristotle said (he
quoted smugly), the humorous is a species of the ugly (= not meeting a norm)
that does not cause pain. But one can focus instead on BS's meaness and
vulgar
Well, it does help if you have a bong or a couple of glasses. Seriously, I
think he is funny; mean spirited and vulgar, but funny and objectively funny
because he is intelligent. But apart from objective funniness, there is
taste which is another matter and has its own rights.
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010
> It was 3 miles - my year of commuting an epic 32 miles round-trip
> abruptly ended three weeks ago. Now the only thing epic I see during
> the week is burritos.
The biggest epic about me is how epically lost I have managed to get.
Bodies of water seem to really throw me in a tizzy. I am so used
> Specifically mentioning the Mavic wheels which have known problems but no one
> has
> challenged Mavic to fix.
Is this correct? I have read internet complaints about this, and
heard similar complaints from people who build wheels by hand.
Perhaps the point is none of the large factory builders
I'm a little afraid to jump into this thread... but I will say that I
find Bike Snob very funny, and I'm a woman. It's not just for the
guys. I'm probably also an internet bike geek...
Cheryl
in SF
On Jun 9, 9:03 am, Philip Williamson
wrote:
> You may be right. On the other hand, most of my frie
Just read that part of the book last night. He was referencing hand
built wheels versus the modern, machine made wheels. Specifically
mentioning the Mavic wheels which have known problems but no one has
challenged Mavic to fix.
While I believe this is entirely away from Rivendell, will add to it
GHMOIARBHs are all men too (by definition). Probably no
coincidence.
On Jun 9, 9:25 am, Anne Paulson wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Philip Williamson
>
> wrote:
> > You may be right. On the other hand, most of my friends who watch Jon
> > Stewart are women, and I see some similarities
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 09:12, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> Was it an epic ride?
It was 3 miles - my year of commuting an epic 32 miles round-trip
abruptly ended three weeks ago. Now the only thing epic I see during
the week is burritos.
James Black
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Philip Williamson
wrote:
> You may be right. On the other hand, most of my friends who watch Jon
> Stewart are women, and I see some similarities.
>
I love Jon Stewart. And I don't see the similarities. But, whatever.
Chacun a son gout.
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On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 09:09 -0700, james black wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 08:51, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > I will wear my nerd badge with honor! I take issue only with the
> > proposed design.
>
> I salute you, sir. I only wish you could have seen me ride to work
> this morning on my 49cc Hon
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 08:51, JoelMatthews wrote:
> I will wear my nerd badge with honor! I take issue only with the
> proposed design.
I salute you, sir. I only wish you could have seen me ride to work
this morning on my 49cc Honda Ruckus scooter wearing a white full-face
helmet and a Blaklader
You may be right. On the other hand, most of my friends who watch Jon
Stewart are women, and I see some similarities.
However, if your main audience is internet bike geeks, appealing
solely to men probably isn't a problem.
Philip
97128
Anne Paulson wrote:
...
> Maybe it's a guy thing-- not that
> I congratulate you, for the above is one of the most awesomely nerdy
> paragraphs I've ever read. I hear the Comic Book Guy's voice in my
> head. I hope that the Bike Snob somehow gets to read and enjoy this
> awesome thread.
I will wear my nerd badge with honor! I take issue only with the
prop
Whoa!
I think the BSNYC audience is bike fanciers who spend too much time
online talking about bikes.
My online randonneur friends are all Golden Agers (like the book), and
the bikes I see at shows and in photo albums are, too. BikeSnob's
randonneur friends are probably the same. The carbon lovin
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:58 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>
> Ladies 'n' Gentlemen: we are heinously guilty of overanalyzing this. You
> don't read BS with an encyclopedia at your side, you read him with a bong,
> or, for the more mature, a glass or two of your favorite. Willing suspension
> of disbeli
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:15 AM, james black wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 14:35, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > Even an entry level understanding of cosmology is enough to show Star
> > Trek is an absurd impossible fantasy (eg., Paul Davies,'The Eerie
> > Silence') . On the other hand, a Rando style
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 14:35, JoelMatthews wrote:
> Even an entry level understanding of cosmology is enough to show Star
> Trek is an absurd impossible fantasy (eg., Paul Davies,'The Eerie
> Silence') . On the other hand, a Rando style bike is arguably as good
> a way to credit card tour as any.
> with plenty of modern electronic doohickeys and clip on battery lights.
Carrying a battery charged light is less technicallly advanced than
using a good dyno hub such as the SON. There is nothing new about
battery technology. Using energy generated by the ride itself is a
very sound solution.
Book is really incredible.
Not sure if it's paradigm shifting, but it's certainly the most
enjoyable bike book I've ever read.
The Velo-Taxonomy chapter is worth the purchase price.
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On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:15 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>> So, Bike Snob is talking about retro grouches, their love of hand built
>> wheels
>> with sensible spoke counts, distrust of recent technology, etc.
>
> But Rando's do not distrust recent technology. They use what works.
I fit the Snob'
Ladies 'n' Gentlemen: we are heinously guilty of overanalyzing this. You
don't read BS with an encyclopedia at your side, you read him with a bong,
or, for the more mature, a glass or two of your favorite. Willing suspension
of disbelief and not too much insistence on sobriety. And, if you do this,
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 06:54 -0700, Jeff wrote:
> Okay, since I offered up this tidbit, allow me to explicate. So, Bike
> Snob is talking about retro grouches, their love of hand built wheels
> with sensible spoke counts, distrust of recent technology, etc. He
> then goes on to say (and I should
> And in plain point of fact, for the performance envelope characteristic
> of brevet riding, even NOS 531 in standard diameters and a fairly light
> gauge is perfectly fine.
Exactly. Change for change sake is more marketing than anything else.
Case on point: When NASA was planning the Pathfind
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 07:15 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > So, Bike Snob is talking about retro grouches, their love of hand built
> > wheels
> > with sensible spoke counts, distrust of recent technology, etc.
>
> But Rando's do not distrust recent technology. They use what works.
>
> For inst
> So, Bike Snob is talking about retro grouches, their love of hand built
> wheels
> with sensible spoke counts, distrust of recent technology, etc.
But Rando's do not distrust recent technology. They use what works.
For instance, Steve points out above that Randos were early adopters
of the v
Okay, since I offered up this tidbit, allow me to explicate. So, Bike
Snob is talking about retro grouches, their love of hand built wheels
with sensible spoke counts, distrust of recent technology, etc. He
then goes on to say (and I should have done a better job loosely
quoting him) that randon
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 05:54 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> Or are you saying BSNYC's audience for the joke was not Rando owners
> but rather people too dense to understand both the Rando concept or
> the many levels Star Trek failed to get things right?
>
Sounds about right to me.
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> You have to know your AUDIENCE to make a proper joke.
I like to think people smart enough to buy a Rando style bike are
smart enough to know Star Trek got Cosmology wrong on more levels than
a 10th Century priest.
Or are you saying BSNYC's audience for the joke was not Rando owners
but rather p
Must... not... reply...
You have to know your AUDIENCE to make a proper joke.
Birders and what-have-yous have zero cultural relevance. There are
very few stereotypes about bird-watchers. No one would know if the
comparison was apt or not, so they wouldn't know if it was funny. If
BSNYC likened ra
Grouch, gouch, grouch, grouch (verb, intransitive). I gather you don't like
his particular brand of humor. Old age ?
Patrick "young, nay, hipster-young at heart" Moore
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 17:54 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> >
> >
>
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 17:54 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Steve Palincsar
> wrote:
>
>
> Is it possible, do you think, that he doesn't understand
> either
> randonneuring or Star Trek?
>
> No! How dare you sug
> Is it possible, do you think, that he doesn't understand either
> randonneuring or Star Trek?
Well, you have to know your subject if you are going to make a proper
joke.
On Jun 8, 5:26 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 14:35 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > > Oh, come now! My an
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> Is it possible, do you think, that he doesn't understand either
> randonneuring or Star Trek?
>
> No! How dare you suggest this! He is omnisient. (Omnicient. Omnishient.
Omnicent. Omnicient )
Patrick "sometimes you have to ruthless
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 14:35 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > Oh, come now! My antennae quiver with delight when BSNYC (let us bow our
> > heads in wonderment and admiration pause ... OK, back to regular
> > garrulousness) pokes fun at something I like. He is just funny. GD vulgar,
> > too, but f
> Oh, come now! My antennae quiver with delight when BSNYC (let us bow our
> heads in wonderment and admiration pause ... OK, back to regular
> garrulousness) pokes fun at something I like. He is just funny. GD vulgar,
> too, but funny.
No so much the poking fun, but the comparison.
Even an
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:47 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > He says randonneuring is retro-grouchery in action, like nerds going
> > to a Star Trek convention!
>
> It is statements like that from BSNYC that somewhat turn me off .
>
Oh, come now! My antennae quiver with delight when BSNYC (let us bow
> He says randonneuring is retro-grouchery in action, like nerds going
> to a Star Trek convention!
It is statements like that from BSNYC that somewhat turn me off .
While I do not participate in Rando/Brevet (name your distance type
race here) I do like to credit card tour. Rando style bikes by
He's coming to Austin a week from this Wednesday (thanks, Mellow
Johnny's!) There will be a ride from the shop (starting at 6) before
he does whatever he's going to do for us, so bring your Rivendells out
so we can all be righteously mocked. I'm reading the book at the
moment and one of my favori
I only read BSNYC infrequently, so perhaps he hasn't worn me out yet,
but I found his short film review today very entertaining.
On Jun 7, 10:27 pm, Philip Williamson
wrote:
> I had just joined the bicyclelifestyle group the day before the link
> was posted. I was not amused by the reaction. I qu
I had just joined the bicyclelifestyle group the day before the link
was posted. I was not amused by the reaction. I quit that group, and
will never go back.
But I will buy the BikeSnob book from Rivendell! What a great review.
And a great blog. For the last four years, any time my wife hears me
l
I'm pretty sure it was here, too.
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Horace wrote:
> No, you had posted that to the bicyclelifestyle group. I thought the
> resulting outrage was amusing. Some people neither recognize nor
> appreciate talented writing.
>
> Horace.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:25 P
Bike Snob is Powell's guest blogger this week:
http://www.powells.com/blog/?author=945
I love this: "Last October, I was fortunate enough to visit Portland,
the home of Powell's, and I wrote an article about my trip in some
magazine that appeals to the kinds of people who drive Subarus and who
we
No, you had posted that to the bicyclelifestyle group. I thought the
resulting outrage was amusing. Some people neither recognize nor
appreciate talented writing.
Horace.
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:25 PM, MichaelH wrote:
> Say what! The first, last, and only time I left a link to Bikesnob on
> th
Say what! The first, last, and only time I left a link to Bikesnob on
this site I got publicly flamed. None the less, I wish well him well.
michael
On Jun 7, 4:06 pm, manueljohnacosta
wrote:
> Eben Weiss book is on sale at Rivendell! Not bad of a book, I do say
> so myself. Good quick read, gla
I followed the blog at first. It got repetitive and I lost interest.
Weiss is a good writer. I will check the reviews. If the book goes
beyond the blog, should be worth reading. Will probably wait for a
Kindle version.
On Jun 7, 3:06 pm, manueljohnacosta
wrote:
> Eben Weiss book is on sale at
Great book. Should be required reading for drivers and cyclists.
On Jun 7, 4:06 pm, manueljohnacosta
wrote:
> Eben Weiss book is on sale at Rivendell! Not bad of a book, I do say
> so myself. Good quick read, glad that Grant wrote a review of that
> book. Interesting to say the least. Curious on
Bike Snob NY blog is bookmarked on my home computer.
Tony
On Jun 7, 1:06 pm, manueljohnacosta
wrote:
> Eben Weiss book is on sale at Rivendell! Not bad of a book, I do say
> so myself. Good quick read, glad that Grant wrote a review of that
> book. Interesting to say the least. Curious on anyone
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