> If I'm doing a longer ride, I'll put on the padded wool shorts. It's not
just the padding that helps on longer rides. Loose-fitting
> pants/shorts rubbing for more than a few hours will eventually cause
abrasions. Seems to be physics (friction?).
My tolerance weakness is overheating. Wh
To me this is a question of time in the saddle. If I'm commuting or on a
ride up to about 25 miles, normal shorts/undies are fine (though I still
find cotton lousy due to lack of wicking). If I'm doing a longer ride,
I'll put on the padded wool shorts. It's not just the padding that helps
on lon
Another data point. I was in the habit of wearing padded short liners on a
hammock saddle. Then a while went with just underwear. Because of the way
I sit on the rear cantle of the saddle, this ended up causing a physical
problem. Moved over to an older Terry saddle and the problem went away
wi
"Is Brooks having financial troubles? The amount of new products coming
out of Brooks the last few years has been impressive."
I work in the financial sector and every company outside of super exclusive
brands wants to expand their customer base and therefore profits, pretty
simple capitalism at
Human factors are fascinating. Certainly respect that you made it work
rather than give up.
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On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 13:34 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
> > I've been using padded shorts with hammock saddles for 40 years.
>
> Context, please. Would you have an adverse reaction if not? I do not
> wear padded shorts and hammock saddles are the only saddle that work
> for me.
I will never forg
> I've been using padded shorts with hammock saddles for 40 years.
Context, please. Would you have an adverse reaction if not? I do not wear
padded shorts and hammock saddles are the only saddle that work for me.
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On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 07:02 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
> On the commute today I noticed something - or more correctly thought
> of something I notice every day in a new light.
>
> That is, the high percentage of people using plastic shell style
> saddles who wear padded shorts. Reading accounts o
On the commute today I noticed something - or more correctly thought of
something I notice every day in a new light.
That is, the high percentage of people using plastic shell style saddles
who wear padded shorts. Reading accounts of cycle tourers back in the 70's
through even the 90's, it
Gee, anyone can order one right now, or is the obvious a disguise ? Only
145 British Pounds $226 USD.
I thought of all places .. this place would be free of "vegan" talk. !
Ahahahahaahaha !
Whatever your "ism" is and we've all got our own .. it won't last
forever... none o
Bummer! Brutal! Bad, bad, belligerent buffooned bus! Glad the ride was a
good one though!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, June 9, 2013 11:14:52 PM UTC-6, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> And now the final bit, at least for now. I rode the new C-17 Cambium from
> Honolulu to Haleiwa (73.5 miles from where
thanks for the report - now I'm jonesing better thai food than we can get
here...
On Monday, June 10, 2013 12:14:52 AM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> And now the final bit, at least for now. I rode the new C-17 Cambium from
> Honolulu to Haleiwa (73.5 miles from where I started to where I stopped)
And now the final bit, at least for now. I rode the new C-17 Cambium from
Honolulu to Haleiwa (73.5 miles from where I started to where I stopped).
The saddle was fine and my rump doesn't feel like it had a bad time of it.
I think that I might have been slightly more comfortable with one of my
rel
C17 si also officially a composite material - I think you nailed it there,
Doug - the frame is aluminum instead of steel. This saddle will open up a
market to them. They are not expecting to lose us over this saddle,
they're expecting to gain others.
On Saturday, June 8, 2013 9:02:18 PM UTC
I can't see the Cambium replacing my B17 Select anytime soon. But
then...what does it weigh? I wonder if the Cambium might break into the "I
like Brooks but they are too heavy" market?
I wonder what a C17 on titanium rails would weigh? Perhaps Brooks could
sell them to the carbon crowd?
On
> I spoke them a a few years ago about saddles and tires and they indicated
they either were or are making some, but they were not firm about it. It
was quite odd really.
Believe for a while Avocet would only sell them in groups for teams. Not
sure why they have such a catch as catch can appr
If anyone's interested in an O2 W (I interpreted the suffixes as W for
wide, M for medium, and R for racing), I have a very good condition -
newish - later version, in Ti and leather, of course.
The later version has the more accentuated padding and cutout.
Cheers,
Chris
On Saturday, June
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Mojo wrote:
> Thank you Bob for reviewing and posting. So you like it! One thing I
> noticed is the overall shape is different. Yes it looks 17cm wide at the
> back, but the back is not flat but curved, and the back-to-front profile
> doesn't look like it has the d
Ron, the O2 saddles came in different widths, from 5.6 inches for the Men's
racing to 7 inches for the Womens. Hence the Womens being "like" a Brooks
in that regard.
http://www.avocet.com/saddlepages/saddlespecs.html#anchor181086
Avocet is still in business . I spoke them a a few years ago abou
interesting my buddy has a man's Avocet O2 on his original Fisher (before
he had to add Gary to the billboard) mountain bike. It looks crazy narrow
- like 13 cm.
On Saturday, June 8, 2013 11:07:19 AM UTC-5, Mojo wrote:
>
> Thank you Bob for reviewing and posting. So you like it! One thing I
Thank you Bob for reviewing and posting. So you like it! One thing I
noticed is the overall shape is different. Yes it looks 17cm wide at the
back, but the back is not flat but curved, and the back-to-front profile
doesn't look like it has the dip. Both of these features seem important to
me. B
If the Cambium comes in at the low end of the market, think of all the
goats' lives that will be spared. Of course, a lot more cyclists will be
profiled for their canvas shorts.
On Saturday, June 8, 2013 8:21:24 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> I wonder how they bonded the cloth top to the rubber
>
> I wonder how they bonded the cloth top to the rubber.
>
I wonder if people will Amber Shellac their saddles.
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Precisely. It's just my opinion, not an edict I'm trying to impress on
others. Who knows, I might see one in person and like it. I change my mind
about things all the time.
Joe "who you callin' moody" Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:59:11 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
> >Ok, I gue
I agree the saddle has racy lines - I think it looks good, though the
material composition takes some getting used to.
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:13:12 PM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a Brooks Cambium
> C-17 saddle. Mine just arrived today
I've had a chance to take about a 10 mile ride today after work which
included a bit of climbing and, of course, some descents to go along with
the climbs.
The first couple of miles I have to admit I stopped more than started while
I tweaked the angle of the saddle. Okay, I had to stop three times
>Ok, I guess I'm the one that's going to have to break the news. Brooks
leather saddles are one of the few perfect products in looks and function
in the world.
Not perfect for the cow missing its skin. (in any event, Berthoud are
hands down better leather saddles than current Brooks)
*>This
yep it's embarraing
On Friday, June 7, 2013 4:08:56 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>
> OT, And I REALLY do wish there was an editor for our replies so we can
> correct misspellings, instead of deleting and reposting !!!
>
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On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 14:06 -0700, Garth wrote:
>
> It's rubber and "special" cotton canvas Michael . I'm pretty darn
> sure they've tested it out so it's not going to stick odd stuff like
> that. This "testing" program is not really a test, it's more of a
> promo first . Seeing it's going to be
OT, And I REALLY do wish there was an editor for our replies so we can
correct misspellings, instead of deleting and reposting !!!
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It's rubber and "special" cotton canvas Michael . I'm pretty darn sure
they've tested it out so it's not going to stick odd stuff like that. This
"testing" program is not really a test, it's more of a promo first .
Seeing it's going to be released in a matter of days , and people are just
ge
>
> Thanks for the pics. I see the contours now.
>
So, the saddle looks like it is made out of metal, rubber, and plastic, and
whatever the cloth is on top?
Did it stick to your clothes like you thought it would?
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Ok, I guess I'm the one that's going to have to break the news. Brooks
leather saddles are one of the few perfect products in looks and function
in the world. *This *thing is *ugly.*
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:50:22 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> Oh man Brooks went t
Wow... I LIKE the look so far... I guess only time and prolonged usage will
tell how it stacks up to their leather saddles. Good luck... keep the pics
and reports coming.
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:13:12 PM UTC-4, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a
Oh man Brooks went thru all that to make a wonderful new idea in a
saddle ... and they persist in using short rails ! Say it ain't so !!!
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Thanks for this review and pictures. Definitely plan to get one.
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:13:12 PM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a Brooks Cambium
> C-17 saddle. Mine just arrived today and while I haven't yet mounted it on
> a bike (prob
it's certainly a departure, but a classy-looking saddle nontheless. Does
ride like it need break-in? Looking forward to a 200 or 300-mi report.
Thanks.
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:43:17 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> Thanks for those pics Bob.
>>
> I think they are trying to make it their wa
Okay...I managed to actually get out for a about a mile. Sigh.
Naturally enough after I'd spent some time taking off the saddlebag and my
Brooks B-17 Select off my Hunqapillar and putting on the C-17 I discovered
my front tire had flatted. I guess I was lucky to make it home because I
hadn't notic
>
> Thanks for those pics Bob.
>
I think they are trying to make it their waterproof saddle or something?
Let us know how it rides/feels.
Can you post an eye level profile shot so we can see the contour of the
seat top from the rear to nose?
Also an eye level pic of back of saddle to see the sh
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