Re: [RBW] Re: Decision Potential

2011-08-04 Thread René Sterental
Right on!!! Sent from my iPhone 4 On Aug 3, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Well, I decided. First, I should address the why more clearly. Primarily, sheet redundancy. Secondarily (a close second), the ability to keep one bike shod with studded

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2011-08-04 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Uh, that's sheer redundancy. Sorry. And there's at least one ad that should be as. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who is wondering if sheet redundancy is technical jargon in some realm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this

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2011-08-03 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Well, I decided. First, I should address the why more clearly. Primarily, sheet redundancy. Secondarily (a close second), the ability to keep one bike shod with studded tires through the winter. Thirdly (distant third), have two different arrangements available at any one time, for those

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2011-05-27 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Now, *that's* encouraging news! Thanks! Presuming then that standover might be okay... If the effective top tube length is only 1.5cm longer than the Hillborne (the RBW geometry PDF has the Hunqapillar at 62.5cm vs the Hillborne's 61cm), then I'm confident the Hunqapillar would fit overall with

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2011-05-27 Thread Brett Lindenbach
jeezus, the agony! tls, you still haven't shared with us how you happen to be in this fortunate position of requiring a second bike, possibly even if it duplicates what you already own. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Decision Potential

2011-05-26 Thread erik jensen
i'm 93cm pbh, btw On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: CUS-TOM! CUS-TOM! CUS-TOM! On May 25, 3:55 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Well if that's true then I'll probably go for the second Hillborne. But at least one place on the

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2011-05-26 Thread jamison brosseau
Hey so, I have an 89cm pbh. i am six feet tall. i have a 63 cm homer, a 61 atlantis and a 60 cm bombadil. if i were to choose a hunquapillar i would get a 58, to account for the larger tires and such ( the same reason i have a 61 atlantis. I can lift all of my bikes about 1-1.5 inches off the

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2011-05-25 Thread newenglandbike
On May 24, 2:53 pm, dweendaddy dweenda...@gmail.com wrote: Just wondering - why are you thinking 62 vs 58? If you want it do be maximally different than the Sam, you might want to put big tires on it and then, according to the site: 62cm Hunqa: 91.5-100cm PBH (Saddle hight 82-90cm, standover

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2011-05-25 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hi! A reasonable question... I like my bars really high. Looking at my Hillborne the way I've set it up, it's easy to think I should be riding the 64 Hillborne. I max out the Dirt Drop 100 stem on my Moustache and Noodle cockpits. And I know that, if my eff top tube length is to change at all

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2011-05-25 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Oh, and I forgot to mention... RBW's geometry PDF says the 62cm Hunqapillar has a standover of 90.6cm. That's close enough to warrant a real world test before deciding. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On May 24, 1:53 pm, dweendaddy dweenda...@gmail.com wrote: I am around the same size as you and have

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2011-05-25 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hi! This may prove to be an important fact. If the eff top tube on the 62cm Hunqapillar is actually 3cm longer than that of my Hillborne, then I will not get a 62cm Hunqapillar without straddling it first. I don't think I'd have a problem with the 1.5cm difference listed in the geometry page. But

Re: [RBW] Re: Decision Potential

2011-05-25 Thread erik jensen
You should get a 58 and set it up with a very large tire. It will work well, and you won't regret the standover when you're riding offroad. I ride a 66cm atlantis, a 62cm hunqa. I probably would've been equally happy with a 58. It's all about stem length. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Thomas

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2011-05-25 Thread Zack
Also, I think that Keven has a 91 cm pbh (lol that I know that) and he has the 58. Food for thought. It seems like the writeup strongly suggests that the correct size for you would be 58 cm. On May 25, 6:15 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Oh, and I forgot to

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2011-05-25 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Well if that's true then I'll probably go for the second Hillborne. But at least one place on the RBW web-site puts him at a 89 PBH and says he got the Hunqapillar as a mountain bike. I don't need (or want) the extra standover that mountain biking would suggest. But all of the numbers are close

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2011-05-25 Thread William
CUS-TOM! CUS-TOM! CUS-TOM! On May 25, 3:55 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Well if that's true then I'll probably go for the second Hillborne. But at least one place on the RBW web-site puts him at a 89 PBH and says he got the Hunqapillar as a mountain bike. I don't

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2011-05-24 Thread charlie
IMHOno one bike doesn't it all as well as something made specifically for the task at hand. If a guy has a limited budget or wants a one bike does it all an all rounder that can handle the rough stuff is the best. Of course this depends on your weight. I think that since you have a Hillborne I

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2011-05-24 Thread Leslie
Another vote for a Bomba. On May 23, 7:45 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: How 'bout a 60cm Bombadil?    If not, and you can't find a local Hunqapillar to try, consider that 2cm is not much difference at all.    But, one test would be to straddle your SH, grab the bars in

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2011-05-24 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Oh, you can bet they'll be set up with various arrangements at various times, probably rarely the same. I've got four ready-to-go cockpits now (Alba, Moustache, Noodle, tall Bullmoose 150), one not-so-ready-to- go (normal Bullmoose 150). And I have two more in mind (bar-end Silvers Alba; current

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2011-05-24 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
At this point the Bombadil just feels too pricey. I can't claim that I'm too fiscally responsible to go with a Bombadil. But I am that fiscally wimpy. That's $700-$1,100 worth of bags or racks or dynamo wheels/lights or dreamy tires or bags (I do love bags) or rugged 40-hole-Phil/Dyad/FW rear

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2011-05-24 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Well... it's not really that simple for me. Either of these bikes will completely and comfortably cover the functionality I need and want. Increasing my capabilities is something of an unlikely project, since they are limited not by the bike but its engine :) I expect to do no riding that I

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2011-05-24 Thread Brett Lindenbach
thomas, you only need to answer one question: what is it you want your new bike to do? if the answer is to duplicate what you already have, then go for it. i should add that having an identical bike would allow you to go for rides with your doppelgänger when he visits. or you could set up

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2011-05-24 Thread Zack
I think I have something to offer here. I measured my own PBH to 91 cm. I went to Riv, used their method, and got 94 cm (with someone helping, using the paint stick, and really going for it lol). I am 6'3 and 240 for reference. I rode the 62 Hunqapillar and the 64 Hillborne. I ended up going

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2011-05-24 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Why? On May 24, 1:25 pm, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I personally would not get another Sam. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

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2011-05-24 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that it's not as simple as 62cm - 60cm = 2cm difference in exactly what's important here, my ability to comfortably straddle the top tube. There's seat tube angle, there's rounding of published numbers, there's different effective top tube, there's inconsistency in

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2011-05-24 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Interesting, indeed. I have not measured my PBH myself. The nice folks at The Country Bike Shop in Celina, OH, did. (Can't say enough nice things about the Dennings and The Country Bike Shop. Nice people and a wonderful place.) I suspect theirs is comaprable to an RBW measurement. It felt like it

Re: [RBW] Re: Decision Potential

2011-05-24 Thread Rene Sterental
FWIW, I started with a 61cm Homer and then got a 60cm Bombadil. The Homer fit perfectly and it's fit has been improved with a 7cm Nitto stem. It also runs 35 Supreme tires. The Bombadil with 50 Supremes proved too long and dangerously too high for standover clearance. The horizontal length was the

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2011-05-24 Thread William
It's time for a sweet custom! On May 24, 3:55 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I started with a 61cm Homer and then got a 60cm Bombadil. The Homer fit perfectly and it's fit has been improved with a 7cm Nitto stem. It also runs 35 Supreme tires. The Bombadil with 50 Supremes

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2011-05-24 Thread Zack
Tom- I am 6'3 and would say that I have a relatively short inseam. I have a very long torso. I would say that the 62 Hunqa felt significantly smaller than the 64 Sam did. It didn't, however, feel tiny. Also, your comment about fendering both bikes pushes me even more firmly in the direction

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2011-05-24 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hey, that's great. To hear the 62 Hunqapillar described as significantly smaller than the 64cm Hillborne is encouraging indeed. Thanks! Trust me... If there were a 60cm Hunqapillar, it'd be the front runner. Alas, the 58 is too small. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On May 24, 7:30 pm, Zack

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2011-05-24 Thread dweendaddy
I am around the same size as you and have been looking longingly at Hunqas. According to the Riv site: 5-9 to 5-11: 54cm Long-legged 5-10 to 6-1: 58cm Long legged 6ft to 6-4.4: 62cm Just wondering - why are you thinking 62 vs 58? If you want it do be maximally different than the Sam, you might

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2011-05-24 Thread Brett Lindenbach
i still contend that the bike you choose needs to have a purpose. perhaps variety* is* that purpose. the hunq (i would go for the bomba) would give you a very different ride. i don't quite see the logic in getting a second hillborne just to have another hillborne. if cockpit swapping is

Re: [RBW] Re: Decision Potential

2011-05-24 Thread robert zeidler
I just put a 62 Hunqa together after receiving it in Jan-it's been that kind of spring. I'm amazed at how much I enjoy the upright position afforded by the Albatross bars!!! I have a color-matched 150mm stem them had laying around and that definitely adds to the correct fit of the bike.

Re: [RBW] Re: Decision Potential

2011-05-24 Thread Rene Sterental
LOL!!! Sent from my iPhone 4 On May 24, 2011, at 5:37 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: It's time for a sweet custom! On May 24, 3:55 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I started with a 61cm Homer and then got a 60cm Bombadil. The Homer fit perfectly and it's fit has

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2011-05-23 Thread newenglandbike
How 'bout a 60cm Bombadil?If not, and you can't find a local Hunqapillar to try, consider that 2cm is not much difference at all.But, one test would be to straddle your SH, grab the bars in one hand and the seat in the other, and lift; then have someone take a look at how high the wheels

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2011-05-23 Thread Philip Williamson
My vote would be two non-identical Hillbornes. It would be interesting (for me) to (have you) set up the same frame for different purposes. One smooth road, one roughstuff. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On May 23, 4:28 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: